I think it was Patrick Holford who said, 'remember, most doctors only got a pass mark!' Sadly, very, very few seem to take their research further than the prescribed syllabus and this is influenced by the actions of the pyramid principle - the people at the top, except in very special circumstances are those who pleased their previous bosses by saying 'yes'! My consultant, despite his apology that if he didn't go by the book would be dismissed, is essentially pretty enlightened. He agreed that the NHS, for example, is 10-15 years behind the latest research. It s the problem of getting the new information to the top of the pyramid before it can be filtered down. Both these processes take years to accomplish!
Meanwhile, my Herbalist told me that Milk Thistle is good only if taken apart from the other herbs and supplements I am taking as it tends to neutralise their effect. The only symptom I have, following a purely natural set of protocols, is a swollen spleen and occasional fatigue (diagnosed MF in 2010). I am looking forward to making my next batch of liposomal C when with the curcumin and broccoli sprouts I will be adding the quercetin that Onamission recommended!
And complaining? Lol. Seriously, it Could be an enlarged spleen which sits above your stomach making you feel full. Have you a reduced appetite? This is very common with Myelofibosis......They need to physically check your spleen size....feel it on lower left of chest. And enjoy the skinney
The problem is skinney doesn't stop. My wife usually wears a size 8 and now finds a size 4 is too big because she essentially stopped eating due to the enlarged spleen and feeling bloated. Her oncologist recommended Jakafi to shrink the spleen and she was started on 5 mg twice a day in the middle of July. He insisted all supplements be stopped but I managed to allow magnesium, B Complex, vitamin D.and krill oil to continue and believe it or not liposomal C was canned too but again it was allowed only at a reduced amount of 1000 mg a day. Couldn't salvage liposomal curcumin or K2MK4. Milk Thistle is not allowed with Jakafi and her leg pain now became front and center so 50 mg of Tramadol every 8 hrs or as needed has been prescribed. It's slow to act requiring Tyelnol to fill in the pain gap and because milk thistle was forbidden she didn't want to take Tyelnol without it being detoxified by milk thistle. Now she has allowed me to ask the doctor,at the next appointment, if he will allow quercetin to take the place of milk thistle to detoxify the Tyelnol. Flavonoids have a good chance of being the compounds Dr. Ayalew Tefferi is talking about for treating myelofibrosis. Quercetin is one of them.
And complaining? Lol. Seriously, it Could be an enlarged spleen which sits above your stomach making you feel full. Have you a reduced appetite? This is very common with Myelofibosis......They need to physically check your spleen size....feel it on lower left of chest. And enjoy the skinney
steve, this youtube video offers a good understanding of progression and treatment of myelofibrosis. It doesn't contain potential drugs targeting telomerase but offers a clearer understanding of myelofibrosis and current conventional treatments.
steve, this youtube video offers a good understanding of progression and treatment of myelofibrosis. It doesn't contain potential drugs targeting telomerase but offers a clearer understanding of myelofibrosis and current conventional treatments.
Thanks....interesting. They were surprised it was not apparent in my fingers. Yes, I had a bone marrow biopsy and have discussed alternatives to Hydrea and even clinical trials. Interestedly enough, I found a trial, applied and was told I needed to be worse that a stage 1. Lol....so few of us have this and now they want only folks who are worse? Appreciate your feedback
Steve, when I was first diagnosed with MF after a biopsy, the first consultant I saw wanted to give me Hydrea. I said no - that I could not believe that something which did so much harm could be good for one! She 'sacked' me. Two subsequent consultants said they would not have prescribed it. I have continued with natural protocols and no drugs, successfully ever since - but with the help and advice of others doing the same thing. Much of it is experimentation to find out what works. The thing to hold on to is that if one becomes healthier it would not be too surprising if one becomes healthier (if you don't object to the obvious tautology here)!
I would also encourage you to watch this video of Dr. Ayalew Tefferi discussing potential new drugs for treating Myelofibrosis as well:
@wellness3070, there seems to be a range of treatments offered to people with myelofibrosis besides medication: blood transfusions, radiation therapy, chemotherapy, surgery to remove the spleen (splenectomy), bone marrow transplant. Have you and your doctor discussed any one of these as a possibility?
Yes, trials and even existing drugs for MF are ropes without a knot tied at the end....there is nothing to hold onto.Gold is where you find it Steve and Roger's offer is gold. Your at a stage where bringing those elements together has the most leverage and remission is possible while maintaining the protocol. Equally important is to educate yourself on them especially about liposomal delivery and discipline yourself to keep a daily routine dose schedule. MF progresses rapidly so keep it check.
Steve, please search on "toe discoloration hydrea". I'm postting an article that discusses and has pictures of hands instead of feet but your description seems to apply anyway. There may be a match for yours I haven't found. Why your still using Hydrea with a MF diagnosis is a puzzel. Was that diagnosis made from a bone marrow biopsy? Anyway, Hydrea is known to cause leg ulcers so contact your doctor for instructions. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2885649/
Thanks....interesting. They were surprised it was not apparent in my fingers. Yes, I had a bone marrow biopsy and have discussed alternatives to Hydrea and even clinical trials. Interestedly enough, I found a trial, applied and was told I needed to be worse that a stage 1. Lol....so few of us have this and now they want only folks who are worse? Appreciate your feedback
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I think it was Patrick Holford who said, 'remember, most doctors only got a pass mark!' Sadly, very, very few seem to take their research further than the prescribed syllabus and this is influenced by the actions of the pyramid principle - the people at the top, except in very special circumstances are those who pleased their previous bosses by saying 'yes'! My consultant, despite his apology that if he didn't go by the book would be dismissed, is essentially pretty enlightened. He agreed that the NHS, for example, is 10-15 years behind the latest research. It s the problem of getting the new information to the top of the pyramid before it can be filtered down. Both these processes take years to accomplish!
Meanwhile, my Herbalist told me that Milk Thistle is good only if taken apart from the other herbs and supplements I am taking as it tends to neutralise their effect. The only symptom I have, following a purely natural set of protocols, is a swollen spleen and occasional fatigue (diagnosed MF in 2010). I am looking forward to making my next batch of liposomal C when with the curcumin and broccoli sprouts I will be adding the quercetin that Onamission recommended!
The problem is skinney doesn't stop. My wife usually wears a size 8 and now finds a size 4 is too big because she essentially stopped eating due to the enlarged spleen and feeling bloated. Her oncologist recommended Jakafi to shrink the spleen and she was started on 5 mg twice a day in the middle of July. He insisted all supplements be stopped but I managed to allow magnesium, B Complex, vitamin D.and krill oil to continue and believe it or not liposomal C was canned too but again it was allowed only at a reduced amount of 1000 mg a day. Couldn't salvage liposomal curcumin or K2MK4. Milk Thistle is not allowed with Jakafi and her leg pain now became front and center so 50 mg of Tramadol every 8 hrs or as needed has been prescribed. It's slow to act requiring Tyelnol to fill in the pain gap and because milk thistle was forbidden she didn't want to take Tyelnol without it being detoxified by milk thistle. Now she has allowed me to ask the doctor,at the next appointment, if he will allow quercetin to take the place of milk thistle to detoxify the Tyelnol. Flavonoids have a good chance of being the compounds Dr. Ayalew Tefferi is talking about for treating myelofibrosis. Quercetin is one of them.
And complaining? Lol. Seriously, it Could be an enlarged spleen which sits above your stomach making you feel full. Have you a reduced appetite? This is very common with Myelofibosis......They need to physically check your spleen size....feel it on lower left of chest. And enjoy the skinney
Thanks...good info
steve, this youtube video offers a good understanding of progression and treatment of myelofibrosis. It doesn't contain potential drugs targeting telomerase but offers a clearer understanding of myelofibrosis and current conventional treatments.
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1 ReactionI corrected the broken link. See this video of Dr. Ayalew Tefferi discussing potential drugs for treating Myelofibrosis:
Steve, when I was first diagnosed with MF after a biopsy, the first consultant I saw wanted to give me Hydrea. I said no - that I could not believe that something which did so much harm could be good for one! She 'sacked' me. Two subsequent consultants said they would not have prescribed it. I have continued with natural protocols and no drugs, successfully ever since - but with the help and advice of others doing the same thing. Much of it is experimentation to find out what works. The thing to hold on to is that if one becomes healthier it would not be too surprising if one becomes healthier (if you don't object to the obvious tautology here)!
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Yes, trials and even existing drugs for MF are ropes without a knot tied at the end....there is nothing to hold onto.Gold is where you find it Steve and Roger's offer is gold. Your at a stage where bringing those elements together has the most leverage and remission is possible while maintaining the protocol. Equally important is to educate yourself on them especially about liposomal delivery and discipline yourself to keep a daily routine dose schedule. MF progresses rapidly so keep it check.
Thanks....interesting. They were surprised it was not apparent in my fingers. Yes, I had a bone marrow biopsy and have discussed alternatives to Hydrea and even clinical trials. Interestedly enough, I found a trial, applied and was told I needed to be worse that a stage 1. Lol....so few of us have this and now they want only folks who are worse? Appreciate your feedback