Medical Marijuana for chronic pain

Posted by mmoss @mmoss, Mar 27 4:44pm

Does Medical marijuana work for chronic pain. Looking for alternatives to Vicodin.

@jenatsky

Additionally, Volteran Gel is available as a patch that provides 12 hours of area specific relief. It works much better that the gel alone but requires prescription from your doc.

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Good advice!

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@bonnier

Can I use CBD for sleep if on levothyroxine and simvistatin? I'm on blood pressure pills too…I will of course be talking to my Dr. before I do anything..

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To the best of my knowledge CBD does not interact with anything unless you're allergic to something. Just be sure to buy from a reputable vendor to insure product quality.

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@artscaping

Good evening @stephdoug123, @luann262 Thank you for responding to the posts about the benefit of medical cannabis. I can't support the smoking option, I find that tinctures work quite well and give you the option of changing the dosages based upon your need for pain control.

I use a 1:1 CBD/THC for the get-up and get going call in the morning. The afternoon can be a 1:3 CBD/THC if it has been one of those kinds of days. And I find comfort in a 2:1 CBD/THC tincture at bedtime. You can also change the quantity or frequency if required, e.g. a full dropper might be too much or too little for your need. The challenge is that you are your own prescriber and monitor for evaluating the performance of the marijuana dose.

May you be healthy and whole.
Chris

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Thanks Chris! I just re-read all the posts. I will try the tinctures- they are really expensive! I do find that CBD alone is usless in my case. Giving up alcohol going on 5 months has helped a tiny bit but it is so maddenning to have this condition and deal with constant pain, numbness and the resulting insomnia. The MM does help some.
can you let me know what the strength is of your tinctures?
Thanks!!
Luann

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@luann262

Thanks Chris! I just re-read all the posts. I will try the tinctures- they are really expensive! I do find that CBD alone is usless in my case. Giving up alcohol going on 5 months has helped a tiny bit but it is so maddenning to have this condition and deal with constant pain, numbness and the resulting insomnia. The MM does help some.
can you let me know what the strength is of your tinctures?
Thanks!!
Luann

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Hey there @luann262 …… glad I could help. CBD alone is not my choice either. None of my tinctures have any hemp. The studies I have read claim a need for THC to jump-start things. I use a 1:3 CBD/THC. This is for my worst days and most difficult pain. It works and also forces me to take a nap. Maybe that is a good thing.

The 2:1 CBD/THC is my usual nighttime mix. It is calming and I go right to sleep. The THC amount just works well with the CBD. I usually sleep all night. Sometimes I have a toss and turn period at about 4 a.m. Depending on what my day holds I may decide to add a little and sleep a little more. As we use these medications, you will find that it takes a little more as our usage time lengthens, especially with the 2:1. The standard cannabis rule is: "You can never have less, you can always have more." I have made my way to a whole dropper at night and even more if I need it.

In the morning or at least when I get up, shower, and get dressed, I have a morning 1:1 CBD/THC dosage at about 3/4 of the dropper. This is my "get going girl" dose and is perfect for me right now. Once again, I use 3/4 of a dropper right now.

So….you are your own prescriber and administrator. I have been on this flexible tincture program for several years and a medical cannabis user for about 7 years.

May you be safe, protected, and free from inner and outer harm.
Chris

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@artscaping

Hey there @luann262 …… glad I could help. CBD alone is not my choice either. None of my tinctures have any hemp. The studies I have read claim a need for THC to jump-start things. I use a 1:3 CBD/THC. This is for my worst days and most difficult pain. It works and also forces me to take a nap. Maybe that is a good thing.

The 2:1 CBD/THC is my usual nighttime mix. It is calming and I go right to sleep. The THC amount just works well with the CBD. I usually sleep all night. Sometimes I have a toss and turn period at about 4 a.m. Depending on what my day holds I may decide to add a little and sleep a little more. As we use these medications, you will find that it takes a little more as our usage time lengthens, especially with the 2:1. The standard cannabis rule is: "You can never have less, you can always have more." I have made my way to a whole dropper at night and even more if I need it.

In the morning or at least when I get up, shower, and get dressed, I have a morning 1:1 CBD/THC dosage at about 3/4 of the dropper. This is my "get going girl" dose and is perfect for me right now. Once again, I use 3/4 of a dropper right now.

So….you are your own prescriber and administrator. I have been on this flexible tincture program for several years and a medical cannabis user for about 7 years.

May you be safe, protected, and free from inner and outer harm.
Chris

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Hello, Chris and Luann. this is great detailed information that I appreciate. I've found this last year as I've tested different combinations for my combination of needs, I'm using much the same. I'm using 1:1 nightly, full dropper and often about 1/2 dropper in mid-morning. I do add a tiny bit of the THC spray, a tiny spray when I need it during the day or if I have added pain not controlled otherwise by voltaren. I'm now trying the extra stray of THC instead of voltaren or patches to see if it works and switch to use less voltaren. We'll see what happens.

But, Chris, you have been and are a true guide for me on this walk. I appreciate the help and the confidence you've given me to move ahead and try different mixtures/amounts for relief. I don't and won't smoke. Asthma, chronic bronchitis and other things demand I pay attention. In fact, don't think at this time I could even take a puff into my lungs!!! Tincture works well for me, is easier to control amounts and dosages.

Be well, my friend and free of pain. Blessings, elizabeth

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Good morning and thank you so much!! I am going to run to the dispensary this week and get some tinctures. Pretty expensive!
Ct is in the process of legalizing recreational use and allowing medical patients to grow which would be fun. I have tried making balms and lotion but don't really feel anything from the topicals. I have also made gummies as they don't sell them here. I will definately get some tinctures this week! I do smoke which I shouldn't! just before bed only and try to rely on Aleve during the day. I need more .
Yes- thank you so much for all you do to mentor this !!
Chris- you are an interior designer? I run a drapery workroom!
Thanks!
Luann

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The tinctures are expensive, but they last a long time. I take mine sublingually. I put my topical CBD on pressure points and recognize that they do best for soft tissue pain.

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@luann262

Thanks Chris! I just re-read all the posts. I will try the tinctures- they are really expensive! I do find that CBD alone is usless in my case. Giving up alcohol going on 5 months has helped a tiny bit but it is so maddenning to have this condition and deal with constant pain, numbness and the resulting insomnia. The MM does help some.
can you let me know what the strength is of your tinctures?
Thanks!!
Luann

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I use tinctures Ilera Healthcare product Ease (THC:CBD) 1:10 in the morning; Ilera Healthcare product Soothe 8:1 and PurePenn Full Spectrum RSO only THC 2.09% at bedtime. During the day I use cannabis oil and vape THC:CBD.

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@jenatsky

I use tinctures Ilera Healthcare product Ease (THC:CBD) 1:10 in the morning; Ilera Healthcare product Soothe 8:1 and PurePenn Full Spectrum RSO only THC 2.09% at bedtime. During the day I use cannabis oil and vape THC:CBD.

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Thanks! I’ve started to try vaping 5cbd: 1 thc. During the day and it’s helping. Then I have been using a little 3:1 evening, bedtime I go stronger. Sometimes the pain is just untouchable. I am going to a new doctor tomorrow to discuss medication. I want to go over my prescriptions and the medical cannabis , supplements and make sure I’m on the right track

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@marye2

The tinctures are expensive, but they last a long time. I take mine sublingually. I put my topical CBD on pressure points and recognize that they do best for soft tissue pain.

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karmamamma (@karmamamma); Jun 15, 2021 – 8:51 am
Hello @karmamamma,
Welcome to Connect and thank you for your private message about medical cannabis. I am going to answer you here in the middle of the public forum, in a section dealing with Marijuana and Chronic Pain. Our purpose on Connect is to gain knowledge by sharing. As we all know, knowledge is power…….and therefore needs to be offered to everyone.

@karmamamma, I think there is a lot of information in this discussion that may help you in some way. I understand that you have severe osteoarthritis in your hip…..with the addition of a hardware breech. Like me, when you need a strong pain med that works, you chose Dilaudid. Many folks don't know about it because it is such an old standby.

You are now facing either a dilemma or an unwelcome decision. Congratulations, by the way on your successful liver transplant. You hoped to leave the Dilaudid behind and replace it with medical cannabis (marijuana). One of your nurses feels that the cannabis might interfere post-transplant with Tacrolimus. Is there research to be discovered about this possible connection?

My energy these days is spent trying to keep up with the cannabis legal issues in a lot of statuses and getting a grasp on new products and better products that appear so frequently.

For starters, I am going to ask @suinmn and @hopeful33250 to share what research information they might have about Tachro. They are fellow mentors and known for being very thorough. Thank you for thinking of Mayo Connect. We are here for you.

May you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Chris

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@artscaping

karmamamma (@karmamamma); Jun 15, 2021 – 8:51 am
Hello @karmamamma,
Welcome to Connect and thank you for your private message about medical cannabis. I am going to answer you here in the middle of the public forum, in a section dealing with Marijuana and Chronic Pain. Our purpose on Connect is to gain knowledge by sharing. As we all know, knowledge is power…….and therefore needs to be offered to everyone.

@karmamamma, I think there is a lot of information in this discussion that may help you in some way. I understand that you have severe osteoarthritis in your hip…..with the addition of a hardware breech. Like me, when you need a strong pain med that works, you chose Dilaudid. Many folks don't know about it because it is such an old standby.

You are now facing either a dilemma or an unwelcome decision. Congratulations, by the way on your successful liver transplant. You hoped to leave the Dilaudid behind and replace it with medical cannabis (marijuana). One of your nurses feels that the cannabis might interfere post-transplant with Tacrolimus. Is there research to be discovered about this possible connection?

My energy these days is spent trying to keep up with the cannabis legal issues in a lot of statuses and getting a grasp on new products and better products that appear so frequently.

For starters, I am going to ask @suinmn and @hopeful33250 to share what research information they might have about Tachro. They are fellow mentors and known for being very thorough. Thank you for thinking of Mayo Connect. We are here for you.

May you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Chris

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Thank you very much for your response I have taken it upon myself to do a little self research and tried a little 1:1 tincture and some vaped flower yesterday and I am happy to report I only took 1 pain pill vs 4 I am hope to whittle down to none. I had my 4 month check everything under the hood last week and passed everything! All is well i will keep you posted of Tachro response but still looking forward to any and all input

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@karmamamma

Thank you very much for your response I have taken it upon myself to do a little self research and tried a little 1:1 tincture and some vaped flower yesterday and I am happy to report I only took 1 pain pill vs 4 I am hope to whittle down to none. I had my 4 month check everything under the hood last week and passed everything! All is well i will keep you posted of Tachro response but still looking forward to any and all input

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Hello @karmamamma. I'd like to also extend my welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect like @artscaping. I can see that the pair of you have connected and are sharing experiences, which is great!

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