How do you manage the effect of Kyphosis and Scoliosis?

Posted by notmoff @notmoff, Sep 10 9:20pm

I am a 80 year old woman with many health issues with a question about the possible effect of increasing kyphosis and scoliosis that has me very thin, bent, twisted with a 5" height loss from osteoporosis and multiple compression fractures that I tolerated without any medication – a great example of self neglect and fear.

My thin frame has a very bloated gut attached I attribute to obstipation, probably from a very redundant colon and multiple abdominal adhesions.

Now a cardiologist and gastroenterologist attribute it largely to my restricted hunched body having no place for my intestine to go but OUT. The gastroenterologist did acknowledge the severe obstipation and recommended Motegrity to relieve some of the pain.

Does anyone with somewhat similar issues also have a very bloated gut? I plan to post this also on the tortuous colon thread in Digestive Issues.

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Hello @notmoff. I am sure the bloat you are experiencing has to be both uncomfortable as well as frustrating given your posture. As a way to relieve symptoms, I am wondering if you've read much on gut health and what you might be able to include in your daily regimen that could be helpful and, at least, reducing symptoms a bit?

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@amandajro

Hello @notmoff. I am sure the bloat you are experiencing has to be both uncomfortable as well as frustrating given your posture. As a way to relieve symptoms, I am wondering if you've read much on gut health and what you might be able to include in your daily regimen that could be helpful and, at least, reducing symptoms a bit?

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Thanks for the response Amanda.
I believe most of my bloat is due to the obstipation and twisting of my body – mostly beyond my control. But you asked about gut health.
I question my choice to eat a plant based diet because the sources of of protein tend to be beans that are gassy.
I am eating down the bok choy, kale, kohlrabi, cabbage and other crucifers in my refrigerator that add to the gas. They will be partially replaced with spinach, beets & their greens, chard, carrots, peas, corn, celery , artichokes and other somewhat less nutritious vegetables.
I will chew my food more thoroughly before swallowing.
I will continue to get my carbs from quinoa, millet, red and sweet potatoes, nuts & seeds (protein) . I plan to add fish for protein. I avoid antibiotics and prepared foods. The pain is greater if I eat as much food as I did my first 79 years, so I will "graze".
I have been deleting and unsubscribing from doom and gloom emails.
I am open to suggestions.

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@notmoff

Thanks for the response Amanda.
I believe most of my bloat is due to the obstipation and twisting of my body – mostly beyond my control. But you asked about gut health.
I question my choice to eat a plant based diet because the sources of of protein tend to be beans that are gassy.
I am eating down the bok choy, kale, kohlrabi, cabbage and other crucifers in my refrigerator that add to the gas. They will be partially replaced with spinach, beets & their greens, chard, carrots, peas, corn, celery , artichokes and other somewhat less nutritious vegetables.
I will chew my food more thoroughly before swallowing.
I will continue to get my carbs from quinoa, millet, red and sweet potatoes, nuts & seeds (protein) . I plan to add fish for protein. I avoid antibiotics and prepared foods. The pain is greater if I eat as much food as I did my first 79 years, so I will "graze".
I have been deleting and unsubscribing from doom and gloom emails.
I am open to suggestions.

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oh my. i am in a very similar state with a 6” loss. i am 59 years old. i have 10 compression fractures. and intermittent extreme costochondritis. i have a bloated, painful gut and am inexplicably underweight at 98 lbs for the last six months. i have had many GI tests and cancer screens showing nothing amiss or fixable. i agree that my gut is probably contorted due to spine compression. i eat similarly, with grain and nuts on hold now because i have severe daily migraines. (9 ER visits in less than two years). i eat four or five small meals/snacks daily. i wonder if i have adhesions, too. i went to the ER once because my stomach pain was so bad. i was using ice packs on my stomach many times a day for almost a month. it helps and i recommend this. i wish i knew why, while i eat well, with lots of ghee and butter and olive oil, and digestive enzymes, that i remain skeletal. my primary care dr literally told me to stop looking for the reason i feel so sick and weak and am so ‘malnourished’. my GI dr said he has done all the investigation possible for my weight loss and pain. that is really appalling. i will write more, but wanted to jump in with my similar status. my heart to you.

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@kittiecat

oh my. i am in a very similar state with a 6” loss. i am 59 years old. i have 10 compression fractures. and intermittent extreme costochondritis. i have a bloated, painful gut and am inexplicably underweight at 98 lbs for the last six months. i have had many GI tests and cancer screens showing nothing amiss or fixable. i agree that my gut is probably contorted due to spine compression. i eat similarly, with grain and nuts on hold now because i have severe daily migraines. (9 ER visits in less than two years). i eat four or five small meals/snacks daily. i wonder if i have adhesions, too. i went to the ER once because my stomach pain was so bad. i was using ice packs on my stomach many times a day for almost a month. it helps and i recommend this. i wish i knew why, while i eat well, with lots of ghee and butter and olive oil, and digestive enzymes, that i remain skeletal. my primary care dr literally told me to stop looking for the reason i feel so sick and weak and am so ‘malnourished’. my GI dr said he has done all the investigation possible for my weight loss and pain. that is really appalling. i will write more, but wanted to jump in with my similar status. my heart to you.

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I look forward to your writing more about your situation. Although I am 20 years older than you, I have a lot to learn.
I hadn't thought of an ice pack to reduce my abdominal pain – a chronic ache peppered with sharp pains at the base of my bloat and radiating to the back.
I'll try it. Now my solution is to rest in my recliner and take a little more acetaminophen as long as I don't risk liver damage.
But I am getting behind in everything but the necessities which take much more time due to my slowness.
Is your focus on butter, ghee and olive oil an attempt to regain your lost weight? Has it worked?

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@notmoff

I look forward to your writing more about your situation. Although I am 20 years older than you, I have a lot to learn.
I hadn't thought of an ice pack to reduce my abdominal pain – a chronic ache peppered with sharp pains at the base of my bloat and radiating to the back.
I'll try it. Now my solution is to rest in my recliner and take a little more acetaminophen as long as I don't risk liver damage.
But I am getting behind in everything but the necessities which take much more time due to my slowness.
Is your focus on butter, ghee and olive oil an attempt to regain your lost weight? Has it worked?

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my ice packs are soft, and i have used them several times a day when it is bad. what about the topical form NSAID diclofenac ? supposedly less challenging to livers. i have been avoiding nonveggie carbs since April, to reduce migraine triggers, as an experiment. i think i am in ketosis. i am not gaining weight back. i may have lost it originally from the level of pain i have been in starting in March. i cant use NSAIDS or the migraine meds (they all cause me rebound headaches). i am trying to slowly add rice and smallest amounts of fruit. i remember that there are enzymes that may help you digest the better veggies with maybe less bloat. i am also slow at everything. feel free to send me a private message, notmoff. maybe we can share more strategies.

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