Klonopin taper

Posted by dawgbone @dawgbone, Jul 31, 2017

I have been on some kind of benzo for almost 40 yrs. I am trying to taper from 1.5-2 mgs of klonopin daily . Began in mid may 2017 and my last cut was very small on 7-2-17 to get to 1mg. Honestly feels like i am dying. I also take trazodone 75 mgs and 4 drugs for high blood pressure. I have been researching gabapentin and seroquel to help with the withdrawal symptons. Please offer any suggestions or help. I am 69 yrs old and cant even leave my house to visit my kids and grands. Thank you for any help!

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@archermac15

Thank you, Laurie. I am sorry that you have suffered from RLS for over 30 years. It is an awful and painful disease. I want to join that group. I wish there was a cure for this disease. The dopamine agonist medications that I've read about can stop working in some people and make the RLS worse. I went back to the Lyrica. It helps about 40 %. If I walk and pace most of the day then I can sleep at night. I am so proud of you getting an of the Benzos. Wow! That is a huge accomplishment. I wish I was off. I want this Clonazepam out of my body. I was hit hard with this neuropathy in my hands and feet in January and that's when the RLS came back. I had it off and on five years ago while in peri- menopause and I would sometimes get it always during the day and usually when I had pms. It would come and I'd be writhing in pain and my legs wouldn't stop moving, then I'd take a pain pill and it would go away. I had told my pain Doctor and he gave me Gabapentin and I took it for two days but I exercized my legs and the RLS went away. I have been on pain management pain medication for many years for my neck and lower back and the medication doesn't work so well so I usually get cortisone injections. I was planning on getting surgery and then the Neuropathy and RLS hit me real bad. I was also planning a Klonopin taper. I went down from 2ngs to 1ng and I cut my pills in quarters and recently went down 25% but my muscles got really tight and I could feel the anxiety and with all the pain I'm going through now my caretaker/ best friend said I should get this RLS and my heart problem under control first. Did you have anxiety when you were tapering your dose?

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You do know RLS is said to be a form of PARKINSON'S? I am 100% in agreement with this as while tapering off Lorazepam 6mg, with Clonazepam .5mg caused mouth and hand tremors. A big mistake my Dr and Psychiatrist made tapering me with .5mg Clonazepam when should have been 3mg. I am going thru untold problems. Wish I could start that taper over and do it correctly.

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@dawgbone

Hi @ayankeeinnm. I think koonopin has help me some in the past but i developed a tolerance plus a bill in georgia has been passed that will not allow my doc to prescribe it for long term use after the end of this yr. That is why i am having to try to taper off the drug. Thank you for responding

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Bravo for Georgia, wish they would do the same in California. Klonopin is for SHORT TERM ONLY, as far as I know, all Benzodiazepines are for short term use. Those of us who was prescribed a Benzodiazepine for many years are suffering greatly to taper off. Thank your lucky starts. Laurine

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@dawgbone
@laurine7
“a bill in georgia has been passed that will not allow my doc to prescribe it for long term use after the end of this yr.”
Many patients who taper to quickly will likely be pleased to hear of this bill which is unfortunate since long term use of this drug is essential for some people.
Some seizure patients are not responsive to typical anticonvulsant therapy. I was curious if any consideration in the Georgia law was given to patients who have Epilepsy or other types of seizure disorders?
Some of these patients take one of several long term Benzodiazepine Anticonvulsants to prevent seizures.
Since Epilepsy is a long term condition in this situation the benefits far outweigh any risks by controlling seizures.
I took 18 mg of Klonopin and had no problems tapering.
Jake

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@sears

This has been going on 5 years?

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Sorry. Thought this was a new comment.

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“This has been going on 5 years?”

And people still don't understand.
Just because someone has a difficult taper (usually their own fault) doesn't mean it's not beneficial or even life-saving to someone else.
Jake

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@laurine7

You do know RLS is said to be a form of PARKINSON'S? I am 100% in agreement with this as while tapering off Lorazepam 6mg, with Clonazepam .5mg caused mouth and hand tremors. A big mistake my Dr and Psychiatrist made tapering me with .5mg Clonazepam when should have been 3mg. I am going thru untold problems. Wish I could start that taper over and do it correctly.

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I've been thinking about that a lot and it makes me so angry that they did that to you. 6mg of Lorazepam down to .5mg of Clonazepam is a huge drop. I don't know how they couldn't see that. I know Clonazepam has a longer half life but I had thought they all were the same dose. If you had been put on 3mg of Clonazepam instead you definitely wouldn't have had to suffer so much. It must have been horrible when they switched you down to the .5mg. If your Doctor had put you on 3mg of Clonazepam and then tapered you down would you not have these symptoms? I'm so sorry that you have to be dealing with this. Did you develop restless legs in your late 30's?

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I feel your pain, I’m 72! I had a very big life chsnge last October, my partner of 6 yrs died of Covid this year! Let me go back to beginning, back in 2018 my partner was diagnosed with Dementia, it was a slight case, so I could continue with my job, which was very well paying with great benefits, & I loved it, when he started getting to the point where he could not be left alone I called his only child, his Son! I told him the whole issue, he came down and said QUOTE” I HOPE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE! “UNQUOTE” I looked at him and said. WHAT PAGE WILL THAT BE, he looked at me like I had 3 heads! Long story short I ended up quitting my job to take care of him, leaving me just having my SS ! I took care of him 24/7 I had Breast Cancer in 2018 had to have a Bilateral Mastectomy! I was blessed , nothing in Lymph Nodes & nothing went outside the margins! But his son & brother left me holding the bag, I was 69 then! I took care of Hime for 2.5 yrs straight! I asked nithing if this man! I have been in depression for years but got ahold on it with lots of counseling, and meds and one of those meds was Clonzapam! My Dr started me out with 1mg, dosage of 1/2 in a m 1/2 in afternoon & 1 1/2 at night! All was great, the torture started coming on when his son THOUGHT I was STEALING FROM HIS FATHER! I WAS NOT! It was him & his Uncle! I guess they thought I should be paying rent and part of bills while living there my question is: HOW IN THE HELL (pardon word) was I to do that on my SS. The house note was over $2,000! After giving up 2 yrs of my life, his brother came in pushed me out , then he & his son put my partner in a Nursing Home, he died 2 months later from Covid. We was not ready to go to Nursing Home!!! All they wanted was his money and ranch! Ok now you can see why I was on Clonzapam 1 mg and you saw the dosage my Dr had me on, it added uti be 2mg for a day. I was doing excellent! I had to move back home in Indiana! I HATE IT HERE. I was in Dallas fir 14 yrs! But my daughter needed a babysitter for 3 days a week, so since I was being put of my home

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@sally4910

I feel your pain, I’m 72! I had a very big life chsnge last October, my partner of 6 yrs died of Covid this year! Let me go back to beginning, back in 2018 my partner was diagnosed with Dementia, it was a slight case, so I could continue with my job, which was very well paying with great benefits, & I loved it, when he started getting to the point where he could not be left alone I called his only child, his Son! I told him the whole issue, he came down and said QUOTE” I HOPE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE! “UNQUOTE” I looked at him and said. WHAT PAGE WILL THAT BE, he looked at me like I had 3 heads! Long story short I ended up quitting my job to take care of him, leaving me just having my SS ! I took care of him 24/7 I had Breast Cancer in 2018 had to have a Bilateral Mastectomy! I was blessed , nothing in Lymph Nodes & nothing went outside the margins! But his son & brother left me holding the bag, I was 69 then! I took care of Hime for 2.5 yrs straight! I asked nithing if this man! I have been in depression for years but got ahold on it with lots of counseling, and meds and one of those meds was Clonzapam! My Dr started me out with 1mg, dosage of 1/2 in a m 1/2 in afternoon & 1 1/2 at night! All was great, the torture started coming on when his son THOUGHT I was STEALING FROM HIS FATHER! I WAS NOT! It was him & his Uncle! I guess they thought I should be paying rent and part of bills while living there my question is: HOW IN THE HELL (pardon word) was I to do that on my SS. The house note was over $2,000! After giving up 2 yrs of my life, his brother came in pushed me out , then he & his son put my partner in a Nursing Home, he died 2 months later from Covid. We was not ready to go to Nursing Home!!! All they wanted was his money and ranch! Ok now you can see why I was on Clonzapam 1 mg and you saw the dosage my Dr had me on, it added uti be 2mg for a day. I was doing excellent! I had to move back home in Indiana! I HATE IT HERE. I was in Dallas fir 14 yrs! But my daughter needed a babysitter for 3 days a week, so since I was being put of my home

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Oh Sally, your story is not an easy one to hear. Families can be so cruel. Are you on clonzapm 2 mg now and doing well on it? How many grandchildren do you have and how old?

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@cperaino

Yep, I totally sympathize. How do you rein in a runaway limbic system. I've always had that problem, but it became debilitating as a consequence of work-related stress when I was in my 40s. The coping method I stumbled on, almost literally, was running. It worked like a charm; after running 12 miles from 3:30 to 5:00 AM I was able to face all work-related problems with aplomb for the rest of the day. Nothing bothered me; in fact I was borderline euphoric. I thrived for about 5 years in this fashion (running 12 miles every morning) completely without medication or counselling. Then, one Summer vacation, when I was running downhill in the Rockies I suffered an explosive herniation of a lumbar spinal disc and my running days were over. For the next 25 years I subsisted on 2.5 mg of Klonopin/day, as I underwent a total of 5 major back surgeries. The klonopin was not nearly as effective as the running had been but I was able to function. However, as time went on anxiety and insomnia gradually re-emerged along with the appearance of novel symptoms (see benzo withdrawal symptoms in Wikipedia) despite my continuation on the stuff. So a little over 3 years ago I weaned myself off over a 1 year period and have been benzo-free for about 2 years. Life post-benzo has been challenging but doable. To cope, I've reverted to my pre-benzo exercise strategy, which now involves walking (pushing a walker) for about an hour as vigorously as my 83 year old decrepit bod (with a very bad back) will allow. In the final analysis that's the only therapy that gives me any real relief and enables me to enjoy a loving relationship with my wife, kids and grandkids. I no longer take any meds whatsoever, nor do I see a therapist. The latter never worked for me. So I highly recommend daily vigorous aerobic exercise to get those endogenous endorphins up, as an alternative to messing up your GABA receptors with benzos. Whatever you do, all the best.

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Hello @cperaino: I recently had successful spinal fusion surgery and within a few weeks I developed a sudden onset of anxiety and depression. I have a history fighting these two demons but had been depression and anxiety free for ten years thanks to my medication.
The fact that it came on so suddenly and my medication wasn’t helpful was very discouraging. I am on a .25 mg Xanax daily to address the anxiety but I think I may have caught onto something that is working even better. It will take a little while longer to know for sure but I have been walking at least a mile every day for the last 5 days and I notice a calmer demeanor without the constant chatter in my head.
I wonder if continuing walking just might keep the depression and anxiety at bay. I was never an athletic person and I started walking to aid in recovery from the surgery but this may be an additional benefit that anyone who is able to walk or do some form of aerobic exercise can find very useful.
Does anyone else have thoughts on this? I know some of the threads here have talked about it.

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