Do you have experience with ketamine treatments?

Posted by deadpoets @deadpoets, Sep 21, 2016

Does anyone have any experience with ketamine treatments? Either as part of a clinical trial or otherwise?

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Profile picture for kelster69 @kelster69

Hi. My depression is intolerable right now. I started ketamine infusion therapy last August. It helped initially, but it has not really worked for me in about 7 months. I still went to the same clinic for 11 months, which I'm learning is a ketamine mill. I spoke with another doctor/clinic who does intramuscular ketamine treatments and who monitors dosing and patients' reactions very carefully during the treatment (my former clinic did not at all). I swore I wouldn't try ketamine again, after this last run failed and seemed to make me even more depressed. But I have some hope with this new clinic who seems to know what they're doing. I am at the end of my rope here; very depressed. I'm wondering if anyone else on here has experience with this treatment?

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God bless you and your husband. The book is sold online for about $20 and has a work book with it. I don't read many books but I was so different before, and then after the addiction that I couldn't figure out what happened to me in 10.5 months. After a couple of sessions with Trauma therapist, he told me to "Forgive myself". I hated what happened and blamed myself. This was a major source of my depression. I kept thinking, "How could I be so stupid"? The therapist said I didn't do it to myself that was what Percocet is designed to do, alter the brain chemistry. Ketamine therapy allowed me to neutralize my anger and shame and start to undo what Percocet had done. It started to make sense that if my brain was twisted up I could untwist it. With commitment I have certainly come a long way and now have a partial (still more to learn) understanding of how my mind works and of the positive results that can come from practicing and establishing better habits of thinking, etc.

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Profile picture for gerrylaschober @gerrylaschober

My depression came after knee surgery and Percocet prescribed for me after surgery. Oxycodone, the opioid in Percocet is NOT a pain killer it IS A MIND ALTERING drug. After several months on Percocet I went to my surgeon and explained my dependence and asked for a descending dose. He refused. I then went to a clinic to seek help for detoxing, ( I could not function at my job or in bright light without oxycodone in my body). The clinic would not help because their rules would not allow them to intake me because I was over 65 years old. I tried private care but they demanded a 9 month commitment. I explained that I was not getting high, partying or having fun. I had lost 40lbs. and could not function without oxycodone in my system. I needed detox. After 10.5 months I quite New Years Eve of 2022/2023. I am a veteran and hallucinated being at war for 3 days and all I did was to hallucinate and actively protect myself from an overwhelming enemy force that wasn't really there. I was found laying on the floor, guns all empty all around me, and almost dead. I was then taken to a hospital for stabilization for 3 days and then to a clinic for detox for 12 more days. A doctor at the clinic explained to me that I could not just quite abruptly like I did because I could have had a "psychotic break". Ya think? I told her she should have seen it from my side. Anyway, THE GOOD NEWS. First the BAD NEWS. After being detoxed I went into a very serious almost suicidal depression. I didn't want to live anymore at least not this way. I went for help and found a very good TRAUMA therapist. he explained that I might need some adjunct therapies such as EMDR or KETAMINE. Along with a very good Dr.'s care and my therapist I went for IV ketamine treatments. It was 2x per week for 3 weeks. The first time I was given the minimum dose for my weight, etc. Under the watchful eye of the Dr. she saw I was not tolerating it well and I was immediately pulled off treatment. However, experience had showed her to reduce dosage, even the minimum amount to 1/2 and that dosage worked well. On the 5th treatment I could feel my life returning to a more normal life. About 70%. I was no longer wanting to just die. I have had 2 singular treatments since but I feel that ketamine is not what I need at this time. I bought a book titled, "The Body Keeps the Score". It has taught me a lot about myself, my mind, my neurotransmitters and what happened. I continue to get better and better with the sometimes help of an SSRI (but for short term only) or other anti-depressants, but I find that working within myself and along with others who have suffered the same depression, along with therapy, diet and being committed to being the best I can be I am recovering better and better. I hope this helps you and others that struggle with being "broken" inside. Hang in there, you are worth it.

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Happy to hear you are recovering. Having a support group or just good friends is essential to keep us grounded and able to feel loved. I have a partner who helps keep me sane.

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Profile picture for kelster69 @kelster69

Hi. My depression is intolerable right now. I started ketamine infusion therapy last August. It helped initially, but it has not really worked for me in about 7 months. I still went to the same clinic for 11 months, which I'm learning is a ketamine mill. I spoke with another doctor/clinic who does intramuscular ketamine treatments and who monitors dosing and patients' reactions very carefully during the treatment (my former clinic did not at all). I swore I wouldn't try ketamine again, after this last run failed and seemed to make me even more depressed. But I have some hope with this new clinic who seems to know what they're doing. I am at the end of my rope here; very depressed. I'm wondering if anyone else on here has experience with this treatment?

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I got real aggressive for some reason

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Profile picture for pasca @pasca

I have tried Spravato and had very positive experience for months and then it peaked out. My psych said that happens with some. She then pute on a new med Auvelity that if different than any other antidepressant in that it impacts same neurotransmitters that Spravato does. It's been about 1month and so far so good.

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Glad for you are better.

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Profile picture for marjou @marjou

My experience with ketamine treatments has not provided me with positive results. One needed to be driven to and from treatments because it was that strong and with no proven results. Would recommend trying mushrooms.

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I dislocated my hip weeks ago. I'm a recovering addict (14 years) and am still on Suboxone (it basically closes the receptors for stronger opiates).

I was at the gym and the EMTs came and gave me 200 mcgs of fentanyl. Didn't do a thing. At the ER they have me another 100 mikes of fentanyl. Nothing.

I was in a LOT of pain by then and had to wait while the ER Dr attended to life and death situations. I was given two doses of ketamine to give me some relief. I had never had ketamine before. It was like my pain was in a box and I was sitting next to it, without a care in the world.

Unfortunately ketamine doesn't last long and 30 minutes later was back in a lot of pain.

When they finally did the "closed reduction" (basically yanking my leg to get the femoral head back in the socket), they started with another ketamine dose followed by a low dose of propofol. I don't remember much after that other than an outline of a shadowy person standing over me.

That was a partial hallucination brought on by the ketamine. Anyway it all worked and the Dr did indeed stand up on the table, hook his elbow behind the knee of the affected leg, and with the assistance of two big, male nurses holding my hips, yanked the femur back into place. I didn't feel a thing and don't remember them doing this (they explained after).

Damn, that ketamine is some fun stuff. Thank God there is no easy way to get it. I'd like to preserve my sobriety, and going through a joint dislocation is not worth the high.

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Where are you getting all these drugs administered?

Fentanyl, Propofol, etc?

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Profile picture for clazzygalxo @clazzygalxo

Where are you getting all these drugs administered?

Fentanyl, Propofol, etc?

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Hi clazzy,

Good question. I've only been given K once, in an ER for very short-term pain management, and mixed with propofol for "conscious sedation" to put my femur back in the hip socket.

As far as I know, K has to be administered by a Dr and through an IV. It's a powerful drug.

Joe

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I tried Ketamine nose spray for migraine but it did nothing but really clear out my sinuses. Ha!

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Profile picture for Ali Skahan @aliskahan

Hi @deadpoets, welcome to Connect! We've had quite a few active users here on Connect who have discussed ketamine before, so I'm tagging @adiari, @overwhelmed and @islandhippy in hopes that they'll share their experiences with you. I also wanted to share this information I found on ketamine research that's being done: http://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/clinical-updates/psychiatry-psychology/ketamine-research-focuses-on-mechanisms-of-action-and-biomarker-development

Are you looking into ketamine as a treatment for depression, or another mental condition?

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Yes. Depression. Anxiety &
C-PTSD

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Profile picture for tbb3512 @tbb3512

I'm having trouble finding an antidepressant that works for me. Has anyone tried Spravato treatments? Thanks!

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I have had depression and anxiety for years. It is now treatment resistant and my doctor has prescribed Spravato. I’m on Medicare . My secondary ,Champ Va ,does not cover it. ( although all the websights I’ve visited insists they do cover it.). I can’t afford it. Very discouraged and hopeless.

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