Medical devices to monitor heart rhythm (i.e., Alivecor, KardiaMobile)

Posted by rog @rog, Dec 20, 2019

I'm interested in purchasing the $149 KardiaMobile only to detect possible A-Fib occurrences. I have had a pacemaker since 2015. Kardia Mobile states it is not appropriate if one has a pacemaker. Have no idea what the problem is. All I want is a device that will alert me to A-Fib situations. Any suggestions? Thank you. Roger H

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@frenchie333

I am eager to receive your opinions about this personal device. My husband had a heart attack on November 8, 2019. He will be having another procedure in the near future to clear an artery (assuming another stent). Me? Though I haven't reported it, I am a VAERS statistic with A-fib after the Pfizer double jab. My A-fib (self-diagnosed since I have never had an MD and I can certainly feel my heart jumping, fluttering, beating in an irregular fashion when I'm at rest) is much improved since I am no longer suffering from the post-vax diarrhea/loss of electrolytes that lasted 18 months! BTW, a worldwide compilation of data confirmed my suspicions, confirmed the connection. There has been a significant spike in food "hypersensitivity" post CoVid vax--with Pfizer being at the top of the list. Bottom line? I think it wise for my husband and me to look into this Kardia Mobile. I assume we would need to buy two--one for each of us. Yes, your opinions matter to me. Many thanks for your input.

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Unless you’re always together you should each have a Kardia device. I keep mine in my purse with my medication so it’s always with me. It’s very accurate and I wouldn’t be without it.
My Fitbit also detects Afib but not right away and often hours after it has started. Apparently the Apple Watch is better at detection but I have no experience with one.

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@sylviajean

Unless you’re always together you should each have a Kardia device. I keep mine in my purse with my medication so it’s always with me. It’s very accurate and I wouldn’t be without it.
My Fitbit also detects Afib but not right away and often hours after it has started. Apparently the Apple Watch is better at detection but I have no experience with one.

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Welcome @sylviajean, Thanks for sharing. I also have both an Apple watch and a Kardia six or two lead device. I think the Kardia device is much more accurate and shows my SVCs and occasional PVC where the Apple watch just mostly shows sinus rhythm.

Do you send the Kardia reports to your doctor?

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@johnbishop

Welcome @sylviajean, Thanks for sharing. I also have both an Apple watch and a Kardia six or two lead device. I think the Kardia device is much more accurate and shows my SVCs and occasional PVC where the Apple watch just mostly shows sinus rhythm.

Do you send the Kardia reports to your doctor?

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I do not send the reports to my doctor. I also have not upgraded to the fancier plan that requires a fee. Have you? I see no need at the present time. The device itself is great and has helped me verify when I’m in Afib and when I’m back in sinus rhythm.

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@johnbishop

Hi @frenchie333, I have one of the first Kardia mobile devices and upgraded to the six lead Kardia mobile device. Pretty sure you can share the same device but would have to each have a Kardia mobile account on your separate mobile device. Here's some info that talks about it...

"Can two people share a Kardia?
If you wish to have another person use the Kardia Mobile device, have them set up the Kardia app on their smartphone/tablet or log out of your account on the Kardia app so that they can log in to their account on the Kardia app. The Kardia Mobile device can be used with more than one Kardia account and/or smart device."
-- User Manual for Kardia™ by AliveCor®:
https://www.alivecor.com/previous-labeling/kardiamobile/00LB17.7.pdf

I started using the Kardia app on my iPhone with my Apple iWatch 6. It is a little easier that using the six lead Kardia mobile device that has the 2 pads on top and you hold it on your knee or ankle. You can also use it with two leads with just your fingers. My Apple watch just shows that I have sinus rhythm where when I use the Kardia device most of the time it shows I have Sinus with Supraventricular Ectopy (SVE). I took it in and let my PCP look at it but they really weren't concerned. I was more concerned with an AFib reading that pops up once in awhile. I also have neuropathy in my legs and fingers so I've always wondered if that plays a part in the readings.

I wouldn't totally rely on the device but I think it can give you some comfort. I would discuss it with your doctor just to see if they have any thoughts or may be able to provide a baseline if you buy one.

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John, Colleen knows me well because of the number of major health problems I have. Some are rare, others very rare, so I see a number of specialist. I’m going to explain my heart birth defect to you and others. For one, any person with a heart rhythm problem should be seen by a doctor who is a specialist, trained on the subject. That doctor is called an Electrophysiologist. Regular cardiologist have only limited knowledge on rhythm issues as I painfully found out. So because of my heart birth defect, my heart and me suffered the consequences for that lack of knowledge.

I was born with a bunch of rogue heart cells that are in the Right Atrial chamber. The SA Node in the upper right Atrial Chamber is the heart’s natural pacemaker that controls the speed of the heart beats. In the bottom of the right Atrial Chamber tucked in the bottom left corner is the AV Node. It’s purpose is to direct or command the chambers to pump. It’s the big boss or Commanding General. In my case, rogue (not normal) heart cells have created a separate pathway from the SA Node to the AV Node or a short circuit. So if a pulse beat gets into the short circuit, it just keeps going around and around causing my heart to go into Tachycardia. Since there is the normal pathway, my right Ventricle is commanded to pump by it too. My highest recorded is 197bpm.

To keep this short, my doctor implanted a $25,000 special loop heart recorder under my left breast. It is monitored 24/7 by Technicians out in Oregon and I’m in Pennsylvania. Then each day they report the results back here to my doctor. Because of the short circuit, I’ve experienced Tachycardia, Bradycardia, A-Fib, Spontaneous Blackouts, plus 3 heart attacks most of my 79 years on this planet. So if you have heart rhythm problems, you may want to get an appointment with a Electrophysiologist, a specialist on rhythm problems. I had the recorder implanted in August 2021 and it has caught a number or rhythm issues, just not correct problem. You see, in order to destroy all those rogue heart cells, they must map out every cell involved. Unfortunately, I have not experienced a long enough Tachycardia in the short circuit to map it correctly. So John, I just wanted to inform you and others that there is a qualified specialist that can help you. Oh, yeah, I’ve had several exterior monitors on my chest, including the wired halter kind and a Zio that’s glued to your skin. Got a 147 & 163bpm readings with the Zio.

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@sylviajean

I do not send the reports to my doctor. I also have not upgraded to the fancier plan that requires a fee. Have you? I see no need at the present time. The device itself is great and has helped me verify when I’m in Afib and when I’m back in sinus rhythm.

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I've shared a few with my doctor. You can save a copy of the report and send that to your doctor if needed. I haven't upgraded to the premium plan either.

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@jean1958

Does anyone know if the Kardia device will record arrhythmias if you have an ICD please (such as NSVT or PVCs)?

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No it will not

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I see that this discussion about Kardia has been going on for a while now. My cardiologist just recommended this device to me. As I have an Android phone, my understanding is that I can't use an Apple watch. I'm gathering from the posts here that the Kardia device is pretty good.
I'm thinking about getting the six lead.

How frequently do you use it? Whenever you have symptoms, or on a more regular basis?

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@hopeful33250

I see that this discussion about Kardia has been going on for a while now. My cardiologist just recommended this device to me. As I have an Android phone, my understanding is that I can't use an Apple watch. I'm gathering from the posts here that the Kardia device is pretty good.
I'm thinking about getting the six lead.

How frequently do you use it? Whenever you have symptoms, or on a more regular basis?

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Hi Teresa, I have an iPhone and actually bought the original Kardia device when they first came out. A few years ago I bought the six lead Kardia but I mostly use it for 2 lead readings. The six lead version has a sensor on the back that you have to place on your knee or ankle then add your fingers on the 2 sensors on the top. I usually take an ECG every morning but rarely get the Normal Sinus Rhythm reading. Most of mine are Sinus with Supraventricular Ectopy (SVE). Even though I use it every day, it hasn't been much help for me. I did show it to my doctor at one of my appointments when I first got it but didn't get much feedback from them. Haven't had any occasions yet to use it when I am having symptoms. Mostly I use it daily as a check to see if I feel any different when it shows an AFIB reading which I get once in awhile but am thinking it's not an accurate reading.

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@johnbishop

Hi Teresa, I have an iPhone and actually bought the original Kardia device when they first came out. A few years ago I bought the six lead Kardia but I mostly use it for 2 lead readings. The six lead version has a sensor on the back that you have to place on your knee or ankle then add your fingers on the 2 sensors on the top. I usually take an ECG every morning but rarely get the Normal Sinus Rhythm reading. Most of mine are Sinus with Supraventricular Ectopy (SVE). Even though I use it every day, it hasn't been much help for me. I did show it to my doctor at one of my appointments when I first got it but didn't get much feedback from them. Haven't had any occasions yet to use it when I am having symptoms. Mostly I use it daily as a check to see if I feel any different when it shows an AFIB reading which I get once in awhile but am thinking it's not an accurate reading.

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Thanks, John. That's interesting. I think I need to do some more research and learn a bit more.

I've been told that some of my dizziness might be related to A-fib, but based on your experience, I'm wondering if this is a wise investment.

From what you said, it sounds like your doctor doesn't provide much feedback regarding the Kardia reports? Is this a cardiologist or your PCP?

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@hopeful33250

Thanks, John. That's interesting. I think I need to do some more research and learn a bit more.

I've been told that some of my dizziness might be related to A-fib, but based on your experience, I'm wondering if this is a wise investment.

From what you said, it sounds like your doctor doesn't provide much feedback regarding the Kardia reports? Is this a cardiologist or your PCP?

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It was one of my pcps a few years ago. He brought in one of his team to look at the ECGs on mi iPhone.

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