Is it kidney or back pain?

Posted by maxxmaxx @maxxmaxx, May 23 5:27pm

i have had bladder infections recently and have ckd, plus spondylolisthesis. how can i find out which problem the pain is from?

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@danny5

@etb2 Tylenol does nothing for me either. i took Tramadol for a while when i had Shingles. it worked ok. but it worked very well when i took a double dose by accident. i was working and i forgot what time i took it. so i took it again. it left me loopy. but the pain wasn't to bad.
BUT I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO DOUBLE DOSE. BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT REACTIONS. SO DO NOT DO THAT. I WAS LUCKY THAT IT DID NOT MAKE ME SICK OR PUT ME IN THE HOSPITAL. OK?? @danny5

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Don't worry. I'm not going to do that,..lol but thanks for ur concern!;

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@8ea

Be careful of the Celebrex. Medicines like it over long use can cause CKD. I can’t take any arthritis drugs or over the counter pain pills other than Tylenol because they all can damage your kidneys. But Tylenol doesn’t help my pain at all because it’s not an anti inflammatory . If I’m in extreme pain I can take a tramadol but I don’t find them very helpful either. I never thought I would have so much pain from arthritis. I’m only 88 but I walk bent over like a little old lady. A little humor.

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Thank you for the information about Celebrex! I have never heard that I have been using this drug for maybe 20 years. But my blood count shows I may have some kidney issues and now I’m considering quitting Celebrex for a while. It may help avoid the chronic UTIs I get. Oh, always had a hunch. The problem is actually in my kidneys and not just my spastic bladder sensitivity. I keep the UTIs under Control using methanemine And the D-Mannose daily and that works as long as I avoid carbonated drinks and increase my water intake. Again, thank you for that information, I will do some research now. And yes, I too am only in my 80s but sometimes feel like a little old lady! Ain’t life Grand?

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No pain on urination no UTI I do have discomfort and sensitive lower back sensations.

I need a diagnosis but don't know which doctor in NYC to try. Could use a suggestion so I can get a diagnosis.

No blood in urine 10 days after blood was first detected.

Please reply with suggestions or advice.

Thank you, Diana (Worried)

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@nierenstein

No pain on urination no UTI I do have discomfort and sensitive lower back sensations.

I need a diagnosis but don't know which doctor in NYC to try. Could use a suggestion so I can get a diagnosis.

No blood in urine 10 days after blood was first detected.

Please reply with suggestions or advice.

Thank you, Diana (Worried)

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Important for you to just get seen by doctor or doctors.
.a nephrologist and/or your own PCP. Good luck.

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@nierenstein

No pain on urination no UTI I do have discomfort and sensitive lower back sensations.

I need a diagnosis but don't know which doctor in NYC to try. Could use a suggestion so I can get a diagnosis.

No blood in urine 10 days after blood was first detected.

Please reply with suggestions or advice.

Thank you, Diana (Worried)

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Sounds like possible kidney infection. If so you need antibiotics asap! My lower back was terribly sore when l had one and doctor actually called me back, which is rare. I’d get to an ER if your back hurts and have also discomfort. I don’t always have symptoms and landed in hospital 9 days with sepsis. Awful and near death, don’t mess with the urinary tract and kidneys.please!

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Maxcmaxx

Pain is likely spongy—- vertebrae rubbing each other is bad pain. Pain meds don’t do much for UTI. Tramadol isn’t very powerful, you may need another drug for the spine, good luck!

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@vlbondon

Sounds like possible kidney infection. If so you need antibiotics asap! My lower back was terribly sore when l had one and doctor actually called me back, which is rare. I’d get to an ER if your back hurts and have also discomfort. I don’t always have symptoms and landed in hospital 9 days with sepsis. Awful and near death, don’t mess with the urinary tract and kidneys.please!

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@nierenstein, where about is the pain? 1) about even with the bottom of the rib cage? 2) about even with your waistline? 3)does the pain radiate around your sides going down to the bladder? 4)do you have any pain or burning when you urinate? which would indicate that you have a UTI. but numbers 1 - 3, would indicate Kidney stones most likely starting to pass from the kidneys. but remember, the kidneys actually are more closer to the bottom of your rib cage.
But either way get to the ER. like @vlbondon said DO NOT TAKE ANY CHANCES. @danny5

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@nierenstein

No pain on urination no UTI I do have discomfort and sensitive lower back sensations.

I need a diagnosis but don't know which doctor in NYC to try. Could use a suggestion so I can get a diagnosis.

No blood in urine 10 days after blood was first detected.

Please reply with suggestions or advice.

Thank you, Diana (Worried)

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@nierenstein, if you have not had diagnosis from a doctor. how do you know for sure you don't have a UTI? i'm guessing you've had a UTI before. i get them quite frequently. and i don't know it right away. BUT EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. GET TO THE ER IMMEDIATELY. NO PLAYING AROUND. @danny5

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I’m also a recurrent uti female who has become resistant to most antibiotics. My urologist is doing an antibiotic flush into the bladder this afternoon. Has anyone ever had this done? I’m hoping this will get rid of the bacteria that keeps invading my bladder. They’ve given me the right antibiotic for that specific bacteria, but it keeps coming back. Thank you in advance!

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@nierenstein

No pain on urination no UTI I do have discomfort and sensitive lower back sensations.

I need a diagnosis but don't know which doctor in NYC to try. Could use a suggestion so I can get a diagnosis.

No blood in urine 10 days after blood was first detected.

Please reply with suggestions or advice.

Thank you, Diana (Worried)

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Diana It us possible to have an UTI with no "burning" symptom . An infection higher in the kidney can do that. My infections have no symptoms until very severe.
It is possible t o do an in home test to see if you have an infection started.
But my question for you is if you have pain, that is ongoing, why not see a doctor about it? Early detection of any problem is best, and saves other costly and complicated treatment
in the future.
I know its difficult to face a possible problem but you are concerned and perhaps it's just as important to ease those concerns? Hoping you feel better

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