Iron Depletion in Blood related to COVID?

Posted by stellm @stellm, Jun 11, 2021

Has there been any reports of iron depletion in the blood after receiving the Pfizer vaccine?

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@steveark

Sue, in your post (dated July 20, 2021) you stated that, "There were 420,000 adverse events reported out of 330,000,000 Covid vaccine doses administered. Of those 778 reported low hemoglobin or ferritin, 324 of those from the Pfizer vaccine.

Would you have a current update on these numbers? I would like to report them to my hematologist (who is currently giving me iron infusions).
Thank you

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I know there are some people suffering from low hemoglobin, anemia and other effects after taking the Covid vaccines. There is no doubt in my mind that the vaccine may have caused or accelerated some of these. For that, I am truly sorry. However, there is also no doubt in my mind that the vaccine saved thousands of lives, and lessened the severity of virus in thousands of others. That is why there has been so much pressure to get everyone vaccinated.

I debated very hard about replying, because I know some people are not going to be happy with what I say. I am going to try to give the VAERS numbers some context.
The adverse event information is available here: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html Remember these are reports of events that occurred near the time of vaccination, not proof that the vaccine caused the event. The information is gathered so that manufacturers and regulatory agencies can be aware of potential dangers. Serious and frequently occurring events are studied to determine whether the vaccine can be made safer, whether any risks of side effects are outweighed by the need to control the disease, and whether certain people should be advised to avoid the vaccine. Finally, the results are reviewed to determine whether the incidence of the side effect after vaccine is higher than the "background" incidence - the number of people in the population who typically are diagnosed with that side effect in a given period.

In that context, as of today, there are 799,000 adverse event reports in VAERS from Covid vaccines. 562,000,000 doses have been delivered to 256,000,000 million people. Of those 332,000,000 doses of Pfizer vaccine have been delivered to 125,000,000 people This is according to https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total.
There are now 3261 events related to anemia or ferritin reported by 2439 people. Of those, 1679 were reported by Pfizer recipients. So 1679 events out of 125,000,000 recipients of Pfizer vaccine or 13 per million (.0013 percent)

According to the NIH (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5112924/) about 18.5 million people (5.6%) in the US have some anemia, and 5 million (1.5%) have moderate to severe anemia. In 2018 (pre-Covid and pre-vaccine) 890,000 people (.27%) sought care in emergency rooms alone for anemia.

Finally, I cannot locate specific statistics, but a common long-term effect of Covid infection itself is anemia or iron deficiency, often quite severe. This has been known since early 2020, and led many to seek ER or medical care, including my own daughter (even before the vaccine was available.)

With all of that said, while side effects are awful when they happen to us, the disease is worse. I have a high risk of hyper-inflammatory reaction every time I get a vaccine (Covid, flu, shingles, tetanus...) but I still get the injections to protect me and all those around me, and just deal with the side effects.

Sue

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@sueinmn

I know there are some people suffering from low hemoglobin, anemia and other effects after taking the Covid vaccines. There is no doubt in my mind that the vaccine may have caused or accelerated some of these. For that, I am truly sorry. However, there is also no doubt in my mind that the vaccine saved thousands of lives, and lessened the severity of virus in thousands of others. That is why there has been so much pressure to get everyone vaccinated.

I debated very hard about replying, because I know some people are not going to be happy with what I say. I am going to try to give the VAERS numbers some context.
The adverse event information is available here: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html Remember these are reports of events that occurred near the time of vaccination, not proof that the vaccine caused the event. The information is gathered so that manufacturers and regulatory agencies can be aware of potential dangers. Serious and frequently occurring events are studied to determine whether the vaccine can be made safer, whether any risks of side effects are outweighed by the need to control the disease, and whether certain people should be advised to avoid the vaccine. Finally, the results are reviewed to determine whether the incidence of the side effect after vaccine is higher than the "background" incidence - the number of people in the population who typically are diagnosed with that side effect in a given period.

In that context, as of today, there are 799,000 adverse event reports in VAERS from Covid vaccines. 562,000,000 doses have been delivered to 256,000,000 million people. Of those 332,000,000 doses of Pfizer vaccine have been delivered to 125,000,000 people This is according to https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total.
There are now 3261 events related to anemia or ferritin reported by 2439 people. Of those, 1679 were reported by Pfizer recipients. So 1679 events out of 125,000,000 recipients of Pfizer vaccine or 13 per million (.0013 percent)

According to the NIH (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5112924/) about 18.5 million people (5.6%) in the US have some anemia, and 5 million (1.5%) have moderate to severe anemia. In 2018 (pre-Covid and pre-vaccine) 890,000 people (.27%) sought care in emergency rooms alone for anemia.

Finally, I cannot locate specific statistics, but a common long-term effect of Covid infection itself is anemia or iron deficiency, often quite severe. This has been known since early 2020, and led many to seek ER or medical care, including my own daughter (even before the vaccine was available.)

With all of that said, while side effects are awful when they happen to us, the disease is worse. I have a high risk of hyper-inflammatory reaction every time I get a vaccine (Covid, flu, shingles, tetanus...) but I still get the injections to protect me and all those around me, and just deal with the side effects.

Sue

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Thanks so much for all the information and stats surrounding this. It’s helpful to know that while the reported incidences of this aren’t statistically high, that it has been reported and noted. I have just recently found out I’m anemic, with no previous history, and just starting down the path of trying to figure out why and I’m worried.

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@sueinmn

I know there are some people suffering from low hemoglobin, anemia and other effects after taking the Covid vaccines. There is no doubt in my mind that the vaccine may have caused or accelerated some of these. For that, I am truly sorry. However, there is also no doubt in my mind that the vaccine saved thousands of lives, and lessened the severity of virus in thousands of others. That is why there has been so much pressure to get everyone vaccinated.

I debated very hard about replying, because I know some people are not going to be happy with what I say. I am going to try to give the VAERS numbers some context.
The adverse event information is available here: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html Remember these are reports of events that occurred near the time of vaccination, not proof that the vaccine caused the event. The information is gathered so that manufacturers and regulatory agencies can be aware of potential dangers. Serious and frequently occurring events are studied to determine whether the vaccine can be made safer, whether any risks of side effects are outweighed by the need to control the disease, and whether certain people should be advised to avoid the vaccine. Finally, the results are reviewed to determine whether the incidence of the side effect after vaccine is higher than the "background" incidence - the number of people in the population who typically are diagnosed with that side effect in a given period.

In that context, as of today, there are 799,000 adverse event reports in VAERS from Covid vaccines. 562,000,000 doses have been delivered to 256,000,000 million people. Of those 332,000,000 doses of Pfizer vaccine have been delivered to 125,000,000 people This is according to https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total.
There are now 3261 events related to anemia or ferritin reported by 2439 people. Of those, 1679 were reported by Pfizer recipients. So 1679 events out of 125,000,000 recipients of Pfizer vaccine or 13 per million (.0013 percent)

According to the NIH (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5112924/) about 18.5 million people (5.6%) in the US have some anemia, and 5 million (1.5%) have moderate to severe anemia. In 2018 (pre-Covid and pre-vaccine) 890,000 people (.27%) sought care in emergency rooms alone for anemia.

Finally, I cannot locate specific statistics, but a common long-term effect of Covid infection itself is anemia or iron deficiency, often quite severe. This has been known since early 2020, and led many to seek ER or medical care, including my own daughter (even before the vaccine was available.)

With all of that said, while side effects are awful when they happen to us, the disease is worse. I have a high risk of hyper-inflammatory reaction every time I get a vaccine (Covid, flu, shingles, tetanus...) but I still get the injections to protect me and all those around me, and just deal with the side effects.

Sue

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I'd have happily trusted my natural immune system to Covid versus the vaccination induced issues I have now. Unfortunately my family pressured me into taking the vaccine.

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@lilygu

I’m so glad to find this thread!!! I had my booster vaccine (pfizer) on Jan 7, 2022. I went to emergency on Feb 1, due to racing heart beat, dizziness, and chest pain. ER did a number of blood and CT/MRI tests, all fine. Later I went to see a cardiologist and did ultrasound, stress test, and everything of my heart was fine. But I’ve been feeling extremely tired, weak, breathless, and dizziness since I came back from ER (from Feb 1 to today March 16). Then, one of the doctors ordered some additional blood tests on Feb 22nd, it turned out I was low on iron (mine is 25, normal range is 50-212) and ferritin (mine is 6.5, normal range is 10-106). My saturation is 6%, while normal range is 15-55%. Doctor ordered FIT (check stools) to check if I have internal bleeding now…. I’ve been on iron supplement (65 mcg) for about 3 weeks now, but have noticed only slight improvement. When I was in ER on Feb 1, my total blood count including RBC and HgB was normal though. Perhaps I should get them rechecked now.

Anybody can share - how long did you take iron supplement to see iron and ferritin went back to normal range? Thanks!

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Dear all, I'd like to give an update. I started to take iron supplement (65g iron +Vitamin C) per day orally since Feb 22 when I was found to be deficient on iron. I rechecked my blood on March 30: my iron has increased to 72 (from 25 on Feb 22), ferritin has increased to 22 (from 6.5), and saturation has increased to 19% (from 6%). Doctor now asked me to take iron tablet (65 mg) every other day. I've also been taking vitamin B12 (1000 mcg) everyday since Feb 22, and doctor asked me to continue B12, even though my B12 is now in normal range (it was on the lower end of the normal range on Feb 22). I hope this information helps!

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@lilygu

Dear all, I'd like to give an update. I started to take iron supplement (65g iron +Vitamin C) per day orally since Feb 22 when I was found to be deficient on iron. I rechecked my blood on March 30: my iron has increased to 72 (from 25 on Feb 22), ferritin has increased to 22 (from 6.5), and saturation has increased to 19% (from 6%). Doctor now asked me to take iron tablet (65 mg) every other day. I've also been taking vitamin B12 (1000 mcg) everyday since Feb 22, and doctor asked me to continue B12, even though my B12 is now in normal range (it was on the lower end of the normal range on Feb 22). I hope this information helps!

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I’m so glad to hear the supplements appear to be working! I just started taking 150mg polydextrose-iron complex daily. I should ask to get my B12 levels tested also.

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@sueinmn

I know there are some people suffering from low hemoglobin, anemia and other effects after taking the Covid vaccines. There is no doubt in my mind that the vaccine may have caused or accelerated some of these. For that, I am truly sorry. However, there is also no doubt in my mind that the vaccine saved thousands of lives, and lessened the severity of virus in thousands of others. That is why there has been so much pressure to get everyone vaccinated.

I debated very hard about replying, because I know some people are not going to be happy with what I say. I am going to try to give the VAERS numbers some context.
The adverse event information is available here: https://wonder.cdc.gov/vaers.html Remember these are reports of events that occurred near the time of vaccination, not proof that the vaccine caused the event. The information is gathered so that manufacturers and regulatory agencies can be aware of potential dangers. Serious and frequently occurring events are studied to determine whether the vaccine can be made safer, whether any risks of side effects are outweighed by the need to control the disease, and whether certain people should be advised to avoid the vaccine. Finally, the results are reviewed to determine whether the incidence of the side effect after vaccine is higher than the "background" incidence - the number of people in the population who typically are diagnosed with that side effect in a given period.

In that context, as of today, there are 799,000 adverse event reports in VAERS from Covid vaccines. 562,000,000 doses have been delivered to 256,000,000 million people. Of those 332,000,000 doses of Pfizer vaccine have been delivered to 125,000,000 people This is according to https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total.
There are now 3261 events related to anemia or ferritin reported by 2439 people. Of those, 1679 were reported by Pfizer recipients. So 1679 events out of 125,000,000 recipients of Pfizer vaccine or 13 per million (.0013 percent)

According to the NIH (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5112924/) about 18.5 million people (5.6%) in the US have some anemia, and 5 million (1.5%) have moderate to severe anemia. In 2018 (pre-Covid and pre-vaccine) 890,000 people (.27%) sought care in emergency rooms alone for anemia.

Finally, I cannot locate specific statistics, but a common long-term effect of Covid infection itself is anemia or iron deficiency, often quite severe. This has been known since early 2020, and led many to seek ER or medical care, including my own daughter (even before the vaccine was available.)

With all of that said, while side effects are awful when they happen to us, the disease is worse. I have a high risk of hyper-inflammatory reaction every time I get a vaccine (Covid, flu, shingles, tetanus...) but I still get the injections to protect me and all those around me, and just deal with the side effects.

Sue

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Thank you for the stats Sue and I am one of those you dreaded to give that information to. I will not be nasty though, just want tell my side. One, the VAER numbers are most likely not the true story because I am sure there are many people (like me) who didn't report anything to VAERS. I have been on the site but didn't care to share on it. Two, I would never have taken the vaccine had it not been mandated by the government and then by my company which has over 100 employees. Three, there is no proof that the vaccine saved lives, could have seen the same results without the vaccine. It appears that COVID just attacks some more deadly than others. Four, I wonder how many of those 1679 people (your stat above) already had COVID 19 like me before getting the vaccine. Natural immunity after COVID should have been recognized. Anemia is something I should never have had to deal with, we should have had free choice in the vaccines.

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@stellm

Yes. My husband has never had any history of anemia or low iron. He received the Pfizer vaccine in March. He began feeling more tired over the next two months. He saw his physician and she suspected some type of internal bleeding based on the blood test, He had an upper and lower endoscopy. No internal bleeding was found. They are going to try the camera endoscopy next week. We don't think this is going to reveal anything. His iron, ferritin and red blood cell count is extremely low. The only change in has been receiving the vaccine.

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I'm having this problem too. I had the Moderna shot.

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I'm having the same problem with iron and I have never had a problem with iron. I'm able to give blood regularly. Since the Moderna shots my iron is in the tank.

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@sueinmn

After reading all of your reports and comments here, I decided to look at VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8) and search for low hemoglobin or low ferritin reports. There were 420,000 adverse events reported out of 330,000,000 Covid vaccine doses administered. Of those 778 reported low hemoglobin or ferritin, 324 of those from the Pfizer vaccine. We cannot tell from this simple search exactly when, in relation to injection, these events were reported. Now is there a cause/effect proven by reporting. To make a comparison, I also looked at reduced ferritin/hemoglobin in VAERS for the Shingrix and Quadravalent flu vaccines (with far fewer doses delivered than Covid) and found 23 for each, out of 30-40 thousand VAERS reports.

I understand that this is undoubtedly underreported, especially since the discovery is coming some time after the vaccine. So, I would say that there appears to be some indication that some people may experience lower hemoglobin at a point after vaccination. In addition, it is known that some people show lower hemoglobin after having the Covid virus (even after a mild case sometimes.)

Perhaps, at some point we will come to a better understanding of all the interactions between Covid infections, the vaccine, and our bodies.

Has anyone experienced either
1) dangerously low hemoglobin of ferritin after vaccination, or
2) numbers that are not recovering?
Sue

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Currently my RDW is 19%, MCHC is 30, MCH is 24.5, my Ferritin Level is 9 and my iron St percentage is 9 well below the reference range of 30 to 44%. I too have donated blood, I am up to 8 gallons and I have never had a problem until after the Moderna shot. Receiving the shot was the worst mistake of my life.

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@fcast1334

Thank you for the stats Sue and I am one of those you dreaded to give that information to. I will not be nasty though, just want tell my side. One, the VAER numbers are most likely not the true story because I am sure there are many people (like me) who didn't report anything to VAERS. I have been on the site but didn't care to share on it. Two, I would never have taken the vaccine had it not been mandated by the government and then by my company which has over 100 employees. Three, there is no proof that the vaccine saved lives, could have seen the same results without the vaccine. It appears that COVID just attacks some more deadly than others. Four, I wonder how many of those 1679 people (your stat above) already had COVID 19 like me before getting the vaccine. Natural immunity after COVID should have been recognized. Anemia is something I should never have had to deal with, we should have had free choice in the vaccines.

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Well said.

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