Important information about statins that I’m going to ask my doc about

Posted by Barb @amberpep, Aug 10, 2020

Just a bit of information I discovered last week. One of the side effects of taking "simvistatin" is temporary memory loss. It is the only statin that has this effect. I am going to talk to my .doctor about stopping it, with his guidance of course. I have had some short lapses in memory .... forgetting part of my phone number, etc.

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@bijouxb

I was put on Atorvastatin, and in less than 2 months I developed: (a) TERRIBLE muscle pain in both feet and legs; (b) partial tears in both my tibial tendon and plantar fascia; (c) sudden onset of Stage II CKD; (d) Pre-Diabetes; and (e) brain fog from hell. Statins almost killed me. And now, I am being told that "if I do not take statins, I risk death" because my cholesterol is NOT good. So I am being told to pick between one hideous disease that might kill me, or the absolutely certainty of Kidney Failure and Diabetes - that will also kill me, but not before it turns me into a Dialysis patient, and THEN kills me.

This is 2020. There have to be alternatives to the type of medical care that says "We'll fix (sort of) this problem, but the cure will kill you" type of scenario I am facing. Or put another way: right now, I have one hideous disease that might kill me. If I take Statins, I'll have three hideous diseases that will kill me. Because they don't "cure" heart disease. They just slow it down. Supposedly. And I have also read that there is little evidence of an increased life span from statin medication. Especially for women. The Statin Pharma Lobby is a really powerful organization. Biggest moneymaker in history. And that is fact.

By the way, my cholesterol was perfectly normal. Then I hit Menopause and Holy Mother of God. And I have discovered - the hard way - that the medications doctors are fond of giving to anxious patients (especially women) cause my cholesterol to surge even higher. Prozac was a biggie. 100 points. In less than a month of usage. I stopped the Prozac and that 100 point increase disappeared. I have since watched my numbers from BEFORE cholesterol was a problem to now. I have also been able to see what triggers spikes in cholesterol AND the sudden onset of potentially debilitating disease of other organs. I stopped taking Atorvastatin because I was practically crippled in less than 2 months. My "out-nowhere" Kidney Disease disappeared, as did my Pre-Diabetes. Not so lucky with the muscle pain, but it is getting better. I'll never be a power-walker ever again, however. My days of hiking are over. And it hurts to lose function like that. Not being able to really exercise is just as hard on a person's heart as the dreaded "Cholesterol" debate. I still wonder how a substances that is essential to healing the body (Cholesterol) has been so demonized. Isn't it inflammation to blood vessels that Cholesterol is generated to try and repair damaged arteries? Input from cardiologists without skin in the game would be really helpful.

What are patients like myself supposed to do? It would appear that we are damned if we do, and damned if we don't. I live with someone who has End Stage Renal Disease and has to endure the rigors of dialysis thrice weekly, and I will NEVER allow that to happen to me on purpose. It is a living hell. You never "get used to it" and your life, plans and EVERYTHING that matters(ed) to you take a back seat. And being told these are my only options are not sitting well with me.

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Cholesterol has many parts to it.. Hdl, ldl, and triglycerides. These can be broken down as well.
Risk factors for poor outcomes, according to medical data, are coupled with high blood pressure, diabetes and other health issues. stress on arteries, as in high blood pressure, are damaged and plugged with many things, platelets, and plaque.. like mending a hose with a crack. The patch causes buildup inside of your arteries. Some can break off, causing a problem somewhere else in your body. Some can block the flow of blood.
Medications can lower your cholesterol but as well can cause side effects. Muscle pain and damage being common.
Sometimes, cholesterol can be brought to good values by changing your diet, and increasing physical activity, approved first by your physician.
Reducing triglycerides and the bad cholesterol can be done by many people by changing your diet. Hdl, the good cholesterol, is your friend.
Cholesterol in itself is not bad. It helps to make your hormones, and the membrane on the cells that make up your body. It does many other things, the list is long.
Doctors have seen patients bring down the bad cholesterol and raise the good by changing what they eat, and getting a little more physically active. I’m not saying to become a body builder. I’m saying get off the couch and move. Walk, get on an indoor or outdoor bike, clean the house.
If you read about eating a mostly plant based diet, this will bring down your numbers. It means eating fresh veggies, fruits and grains, as tolerated, and having a small amount of healthy lean protein compared to vegetables on your plate. Your plate should be 75% veggies and 25% lean protein. Just an example..Fruits have sugar but there are low glycemic ones..The results are startling to many. It takes a little time to see the results so be patient. Some choose to be vegetarian. I see you shaking your head. This includes excluding meat and poultry, but can include eggs, aged cheese and yogurt, and fish. Some decide to go full vegan which means consuming all plant based foods, but large amounts of it to get the body what it needs. Humans sometimes can’t extract all the body needs like animals do from plants, and lack essentials like vitamin b12, which must be taken. It is available in many non vegetarian items like meat and eggs, and added to processed foods. As we age, our ability to extract nutrients from foods has a decline. So following with a physician knowledgeable in this area is indeed helpful. A nutritionist as well is a great asset.
If you have high cholesterol, then it’s a good idea to discuss a plan with your doc. It can mean saying farewell to that 16oz steak at Peter Lugers. ( New Yorkers you get that!) and bye bye bacon, unhealthy processed foods full of things that aren’t really good for you. And no, eating a Big Mac with what they call cheese and bacon is not remedied by a bowl of Cheerios..But, one thing at a time. Start with a workup at your physician or cardiologist office. Talk with them. They will tell you that diet and activity is the most influential part of your health.
I’ve seen people take better care of their cars than their own body. Your body is the finest machine ever built.
Instead of a “ diet”, try to learn how to eat well forever. You will get to your bodies good weight without trying. Being at a good weight can bring about good health..Just by eating what your body needs. It can heal itself if given the right fuel. Really.
Small steps. Instead of canned fruits and veggies, go to the produce section. Buy fresh, and pesticide free if you can. Local and seasonal. Pasture raised meat, lean. No, not bacon. Fresh wild fish high in omega 3. Salmon, sardines, herring and more. Read up. Olive oil. Grass fed dairy.
You will feel better. Your future body will thank you. Please try.
Let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food... Hippocrates.

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Helps t regulate my energy, take Ubiquinol coq10 everyday I no longer take statins but continued w coq10, statins made me feel very weak n tired, couldn't walk up stairs.

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@grammad

For sure consult Dr. I had a bad reaction to statins and choose not y take. Body became very weak, couldn't walk up stairs or work in garden. I'm much better now, I just take Ubiquinol coq10 n magnesium, every day, been holding good for 10 yrs since incedent. Perfect natural path, but it's not fr everyone

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What do you notice coq10 doing for you?

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@thumperguy

The Doc doesn’t express any concern. Without benefit of clothing I think I resemble a tribal African though I do indeed wear more clothes.

Regarding weight, I’ve succeeded in stopping the loss and have slowly regained 3 pounds.

I buy Orgain from Amazon. It’s pricey and probably not worth what I spend on it, but I kinda like the stuff and likely better Orgain than beer and whiskey.😉

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Another observation re: weight; over weight has become the new normal.

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@merpreb

@thumperguy- I drink that too. I'm 5'1" and you way more than I do. Not by much though. lol. What does your doctor say about your low weight?

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The Doc doesn’t express any concern. Without benefit of clothing I think I resemble a tribal African though I do indeed wear more clothes.

Regarding weight, I’ve succeeded in stopping the loss and have slowly regained 3 pounds.

I buy Orgain from Amazon. It’s pricey and probably not worth what I spend on it, but I kinda like the stuff and likely better Orgain than beer and whiskey.😉

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@joybringer1

Wow! Someone else watches Le Tour de France. My husband and I watch it every morning and to heck with what else happens! We have a banner with the logo on it. Our friend inParis sent it to us several years ago. It hangs over our fireplace. This year was spectacular! We always enjoy the scenery and the commentary. How about the commentators being on two different continents! We were amazed that one young man could win three jerseys at the end. The Race of Truth time trial made all the difference. Yes, so many great athletes make this long ride.

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I agree wholeheartedly with you. Watching this year's race cheered me enormously in the midst of the pandemic. the TdF organized the race perfectly to test and prevent the spread of the coronavirus, which thankfully none of the riders got. I miss Paul Sherwen as a commentator. Phil Liggett and Bob Roll did a superb job. Lucky you to have the banner! Pogi, the winner, is an incredible athlete.

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Wow! Someone else watches Le Tour de France. My husband and I watch it every morning and to heck with what else happens! We have a banner with the logo on it. Our friend inParis sent it to us several years ago. It hangs over our fireplace. This year was spectacular! We always enjoy the scenery and the commentary. How about the commentators being on two different continents! We were amazed that one young man could win three jerseys at the end. The Race of Truth time trial made all the difference. Yes, so many great athletes make this long ride.

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@merpreb

@thumperguy- I drink that too. I'm 5'1" and you way more than I do. Not by much though. lol. What does your doctor say about your low weight?

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@thumperguy and @merpreb, meant to ask about where to buy the Orgain peaprotein choc shake you both mentioned? At 5'8" and for years stable weight of 125 lbs, has made the 30 lb wt loss a real bummer. I have managed to regain 5 pounds over the past 1 1/2 yrs and surprisingly feel well enough just would like more pounds to possibly boost immunity. My pcp said that with my several health issues, weight gain is a complicated affair....hmmmm, I'd pretty much figured that out on my own, right? vbg

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@thumperguy

Yeah, Shame on me, but I do take a ration of quiet pride, mindful of avoiding appearing smug. Don

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@thumperguy, I'd be fluttering my feathers all over the place if doing your exercise routine! Good for you. Well done! If you find a magic solution or even just one that really works for gaining weight please share. A sought but never diagnosed cause for a 30 lb unintended wt loss for me has me continuing to work at regaining those lost pounds.

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@thumperguy

And yes Merry, I probably spend an inordinate amount of time trying to stay fit and healthy. For exercise, in addition to going at sort of an Energizer Bunny pace in daily activities, I walk daily and with my wife, do a relatively light weight routine 3 x weekly. I do all the food prep at our place preparing low-fat (i.e., no added cooking oils, no fried foods) 100% plant-based with only an occasional processed item like a Boca Burger, et. al.

I weigh less than I'd like to (120 lb's.) but can't seem to gain despite hosing down a daily Orgain pea protein chocolate shake plus eating high fat plant foods like avocado, olives and sinful dark chocolate bars. I think I posted my numbers earlier but in case not: Total cholesterol: 166, LDL 82, HDL 74,Trigs 52

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@thumperguy- I drink that too. I'm 5'1" and you way more than I do. Not by much though. lol. What does your doctor say about your low weight?

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