What if others say they're afraid you'll have a seizure?

Posted by Dan Noyes @dannoyes, Jan 13 12:30pm

A friend recently came to town and he wanted to get together for lunch. On the way to the restaurant, he looked at me with trepidation and asked, "What do I do if you have a seizure?" Many of us are so used to epilepsy we don't even think twice about what it must be like for our family and friends to be with us. During the holidays, I once again saw some of my family giving me some distance, especially while I had a mini-absence seizure at Costco (not convulsive, but...well, you know). I'd love to know how you have handled this, especially getting together with people you haven't seen in ages.

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@randallshields56 Ps, just found out this month before it goes out the window that my temperature from the neck up plays a key role in my triggers for having seizure symptoms beginning. Twice now in different locations my daughter had to remove headgear and outer garments that held heat so i could cool down and both times she could see me coming around more quickly to normal. Ty

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Thank you.

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@randallshields56 Ps, just found out this month before it goes out the window that my temperature from the neck up plays a key role in my triggers for having seizure symptoms beginning. Twice now in different locations my daughter had to remove headgear and outer garments that held heat so i could cool down and both times she could see me coming around more quickly to normal. Ty

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Thank You.

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@randallshields56 Ps, just found out this month before it goes out the window that my temperature from the neck up plays a key role in my triggers for having seizure symptoms beginning. Twice now in different locations my daughter had to remove headgear and outer garments that held heat so i could cool down and both times she could see me coming around more quickly to normal. Ty

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Thank you for the helpful. It works knowing, now just have to remember it.

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another thing i have learned from the seizures both myself and daughter get is we both have different triggers. hers are usually because of too much going on in the brain and getting overheated. hers didn't start till she had her two kids. mine was from a tumor and too many head traumas .with bringing family on board was tough, but every obstacle i improved on regardless if i considered it a win or not. it was to them. i knew i was being watched 24/7 but they learned with me that i would let them know the minuet i was not feeling right. mad a big difference after a while, only one condition, had to have my phone with me always. what set mine off was too much input to the brain at a time. made me think to hard, i taught them patience and it paid off for all of us. now i think of what i want to say before i say it, makes good practice for speaking to anyone.

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@randallshields56 Ps, just found out this month before it goes out the window that my temperature from the neck up plays a key role in my triggers for having seizure symptoms beginning. Twice now in different locations my daughter had to remove headgear and outer garments that held heat so i could cool down and both times she could see me coming around more quickly to normal. Ty

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I’m coming at this from someone who lives with epilepsy and doesn’t have epilepsy. Knowledge is power in my opinion. The unknown is scary. That said, I will never get used to my son’s seizures. He had a sudden onset right before his last year of high school and had 18 tonic clonic seizures in about 5 mos time before the right combo of drugs got on board.
I won’t lie, it’s scary to watch a loved one fall to the ground and shake about and make scary noises. Thankfully he has been seizure free for 2 years and I’ve settled a bit but I still get a bit of a panic if I hear an odd noise.
I can’t imagine having to be the one who is actually living with this disease, but I love the info on the phone case, I bet you could get a case made with the note. My son wears a medic alert bracelet and, quite frankly, I’ve told him he doesn’t have to tell everyone he meets, if he doesn’t want to.

I’m sorry if people have lost friends over this, I can only imagine it was out of fear, but it still stinks!

Tracey

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@tchandos
Congratulations to your son and you! I've never spoken the Bible, but going from 18 TC's in 5 months to now seizure free for 2 years IMO is divine intervention. Where did you find such a neurologist or was that individual a formal epileptologist?

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Hi Everyone,
A quick update: the first aid card is still on my to-do list and very much a priority — just moving a little slowly on my end!
In the meantime, I came across this article that I thought many of you might find useful. It covers key reasons why wearing a medical epilepsy ID bracelet can make a real difference — especially in situations when we may not be able to speak for ourselves.
3 Reasons To Wear an Epilepsy Medical ID Bracelet - My Epilepsy Team
https://www.myepilepsyteam.com/resources/should-you-have-an-epilepsy-bracelet
Chris

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@santosha
Hi Chris, Below is the note I used to carry in my pocket. It's a full printed page; I would fold it into 1/4 and keep it in my pocket, along with ID and my Emergency Pill. I stopped carrying the note once I was seizure-free for 6 months. At that point I felt confident that the new medication was working well for me.

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Dear Friend:

Please call 911 and let them know that < Your Name Here> has had an Epileptic seizure. My ID is on me. Let 911 know of any injuries I may have sustained. If I am seizing or convulsing, please move objects away that could cause injury. Important - DO NOT put ANYTHING in my mouth - its a choking hazard. Please stay with me until paramedics arrive.

Also please also call my Emergency Contact: < Contact Name> at < Contact Phone Number>.

Thank you for your help!
< Your Name> , < Address optional>

The seizure itself may last 3-5 minutes:
• During the seizure I may be unconscious and not be able to hear you or respond to you.
• If standing, I may lose consciousness suddenly and fall. Note any injuries I may have.
• If possible, ease me onto the ground
• If possible gently roll me to one side (keeps my airway clear so I don’t choke)
• Cushion my head with something soft like a rolled up towel or a folded jacket.
• If I am wearing glasses please remove them if possible.
• Loosen anything around my neck like a tie that might constrict breathing
• I may foam or bleed from the mouth – this is part of the seizure – do NOT attempt to stop it.

Once the seizure is over, it may take a while to recover. I may be confused until then.
• In the recovery phase I start to “wake up”, regain awareness, and begin to hear and understand you.
• If I have Oxygen with me, encourage me to use it. It helps me recover faster and think more clearly.
• I usually carry a pill case with my "Emergency Med" < med name here>. Once I am alert enough to swallow it on my own, remind me to take it. It helps prevent another seizure.
• Please make sure I have spoken with my Emergency Contact and I have a plan to get home.

What is a seizure ?
A seizure is a sudden burst of electrical activity in the brain that interferes with the body’s ability to function. Depending on severity, a seizure could be as mild as a temporary lapse in memory or awareness, or as serious as a tonic-clonic (grand mal) seizure with loss of consciousness and convulsions. Any seizure that lasts more than 5 minutes, or stops and restarts could be fatal (status epilepticus)

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@earlylonghauler
Thank you so much for sharing the notes you carried with you 🥰. It will surely inspire many of us!
I hope I'll get my energy back this week so I can work on improving my own notes 🙏.
Wishing you all a great start to the week!
Chris

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Dear @dannoyes
Who gets seizure? Any thing…

Well, I had an accident 12-13 years ago. Yes, I had & have seizures falling down and get my body. I hate…. but my meds has helped me and, only one time last year that is the last 5 years from my meds - 3 times every day.

Thx,
Greg D. @greg1956

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@earlylonghauler
Good Morning!
Thank you so much for sharing this with us!
I'm so glad Briviact has been working well for you. How long have you been taking it?
Would you mind sharing what you wrote on that card?
Chris

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@santosha
Hi Chris, Below is the note I used to carry in my pocket. It's a full printed page; I would fold it into 1/4 and keep it in my pocket, along with ID and my Emergency Pill. I stopped carrying the note once I was seizure-free for 6 months. At that point I felt confident that the new medication was working well for me.

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Dear Friend:

Please call 911 and let them know that < Your Name Here> has had an Epileptic seizure. My ID is on me. Let 911 know of any injuries I may have sustained. If I am seizing or convulsing, please move objects away that could cause injury. Important - DO NOT put ANYTHING in my mouth - its a choking hazard. Please stay with me until paramedics arrive.

Also please also call my Emergency Contact: < Contact Name> at < Contact Phone Number>.

Thank you for your help!
< Your Name> , < Address optional>

The seizure itself may last 3-5 minutes:
• During the seizure I may be unconscious and not be able to hear you or respond to you.
• If standing, I may lose consciousness suddenly and fall. Note any injuries I may have.
• If possible, ease me onto the ground
• If possible gently roll me to one side (keeps my airway clear so I don’t choke)
• Cushion my head with something soft like a rolled up towel or a folded jacket.
• If I am wearing glasses please remove them if possible.
• Loosen anything around my neck like a tie that might constrict breathing
• I may foam or bleed from the mouth – this is part of the seizure – do NOT attempt to stop it.

Once the seizure is over, it may take a while to recover. I may be confused until then.
• In the recovery phase I start to “wake up”, regain awareness, and begin to hear and understand you.
• If I have Oxygen with me, encourage me to use it. It helps me recover faster and think more clearly.
• I usually carry a pill case with my "Emergency Med" < med name here>. Once I am alert enough to swallow it on my own, remind me to take it. It helps prevent another seizure.
• Please make sure I have spoken with my Emergency Contact and I have a plan to get home.

What is a seizure ?
A seizure is a sudden burst of electrical activity in the brain that interferes with the body’s ability to function. Depending on severity, a seizure could be as mild as a temporary lapse in memory or awareness, or as serious as a tonic-clonic (grand mal) seizure with loss of consciousness and convulsions. Any seizure that lasts more than 5 minutes, or stops and restarts could be fatal (status epilepticus)

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I really appreciate your transparency because I think it's important that those of us with epilepsy always remember the implications of our condition on those closest to us. Thanks for sharing!

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