Has anyone tried Umary Hialuronica Acidio from Mexico?

Posted by jixster @jixster, Feb 20 12:16pm

I bought a bottle of this UMARY Hialuronica Acidio from Amazon - I wanted something to help with my morning stiffness from PMR. I tried one pill mid- afternoon and the next morning I felt like new! No pain - no stiffness. BUT - after reading some negative reviews on Amazon I became aware of some possible issues, that because it works so well there must be an unlisted ingredient(s) - perhaps a NSAID OR A STEROID? One person mentioned after a couple months of using it started to mess up his liver enzymes. Since I am on 10mg of prednisone I decided to only take this supplement once every 4 days until I see my rheumatologist in April - I did not see any warning from the FDA for Umary - there are many more positive reviews than negative reviews on Amazon- I wish I could get it analyzed to be sure it’s safe but I don’t know where such can be done.

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The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warns that some arthritis and pain management products contain hidden ingredients that could be dangerous. 

Tainted Arthritis | Pain Products FDA

According to the FDA, over-the-counter (OTC) arthritis and pain management products may have potentially harmful hidden ingredients. Use caution before using any OTC arthritis and pain management products. Umary may have hidden ingredients that are potentially harmful.

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@marvflo4433

I've done a lot of research about this- including trying to find a lab in the U.S. that would test it and tell me what is REALLY in this. The issue does not seem to be the ingredients that are listed but rather, what might be in it that ISN'T listed.

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@marvflo4433, The ingredients not listed do seem to be the issue. A big red flag one of the ingredients listed is the FDA warning shared by @megz - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/comment/1049216/

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@kmekate707

Thank you for the extra info @megz
Curious about nettle… see it all over Amazon in many different forms from many different brands. Are those unsafe?
Also curious what you take for your pain relief if you don’t mind sharing. I don’t want to take Umary until we have solid info on what’s actually in it. I’m suffering daily though and I still work full time. It’s so embarrassing when coworkers see me locked up and waddling.

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You'd have to ask the FDA which released the statement warning about Ortiga nettle products about the safety or otherwise of any particular product. Anything that claims to be "all natural" or masquerades as a supplement rather than a medicine isn't regulated for purity or ingredients. Health warnings aren't usually given either.

I'm painfree taking prednisone, apart from a flare two months ago at 6mg, when I took prescribed Osteopanadol to get through the days till the next doctor's appointment. Prednisone was raised, the pain went away again and I'm reducing again. I do split the dose and take a small evening dose with dinner, currently just 1mg. The rest of the dose, 11mg, I take in the morning. I previously took 2mg as the early evening dose to stay painfree, but am trying 1mg this time. So far so good.

That would be awful to be working and dealing with PMR pain too. If you take prednisone, have you considered splitting the dose?

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The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warns that some arthritis and pain management products contain hidden ingredients that could be dangerous.

Tainted Arthritis | Pain Products FDA https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication-health-fraud/tainted-arthritis-pain-products

According to the FDA, over-the-counter (OTC) arthritis and pain management products may have potentially harmful hidden ingredients. Use caution before using any OTC arthritis and pain management products.

The research of members participating in this discussion show that Umary may have hidden ingredients that are potentially harmful.

See this helpful article:
- FDA Warns Certain Arthritis and Pain Products May Have Hidden Ingredients https://www.verywellhealth.com/fda-warning-arthritis-pain-products-8348408

The article includes these tips when buying OTC products [Excerpt]:
- "Avoid purchasing products with labels that are in a language you cannot read.
- Familiarize yourself with examples of scams and learn how to spot medication health fraud. For example, look out for offers that claim the product can “do it all,” or rely heavily on personal testimonials without any credible evidence. You should also avoid any product that offers “miracle cures.”
- Be aware of products that claim to be unproven medication alternatives to FDA-approved drugs or have similar effects to prescription drugs.
- Consider the risks of purchasing medicine online or from other countries. Remember that the presence of fraudulent products is not limited to specific locations or platforms.
- Do not use or purchase OTC medicines that lack the required drug facts label. If you are not able to read the label of any prescription, OTC medicine, or dietary supplement, do not use it.
- Check to make sure the manufacturer’s name, address, and phone number are listed on the label.
- Contact an FDA pharmacist about a product’s legitimacy and ask if the agency has taken action against it. You can email the FDA at druginfo@fda.hss.gov or call 855-543-3784 or 301-796-3400.
- Check the safety of a product by visiting the FDA website and searching for the product name to see if it has been involved in any regulatory action. You may also use the FDA’s health fraud database to search for a product’s name and to check for any violations.
- Ask your local pharmacy for advice about OTC products.
- Talk to your provider about all the products you are taking for your medical conditions."

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@crystalrn

Here is a copy of the email I sent to ConsumerLab.com:
I am hoping to hear something back or at least pique their interest enough to look into it.
I'm not sure why anybody thinks there is dexamethasone. AKA Decadron, in it. Decadron has a very short half life when injected into joints. Basically worthless. Kenalog works much better. I've taken oral Decadron in the past without any effects like UMARY has given me.

Tue, Apr 9, 4:27 PM (2 days ago)

to info, bcc: me
Hi,
Retired RN here. I am a member of Mayo Clinic Connect's newsletter
forum. There is quite a discussion going on about a Mexican Supplement
called UMARY. Supposedly provides Hyaluronic Acid, Turmeric and some
other herbs to help with Arthritis as well as Polymyalgia Rheumatica.
The people who are on it are saying that it is a miracle supplement
because 24-48 hrs after the first dose, they are feeling 100% better.
Amazon and WalMart have both been selling it and cannot keep it in
stock. Probably as word of mouth travels.

I have tried it and I can tell you that it does work as people claim.
I could tell a difference in my Spinal OA 2 days after starting it.
Someone in Canada had it tested.

The Canadian test disclosed the presence of diclofenac (Voltaren, a
prescription NSAID) at about 25-30 mg. I am quite familiar with
Voltaren after taking it for about 10 yrs. I was taking 100 mg a day.
Worked pretty good but not nearly as well as UMARY does. The other
possibility is the homeopathic effect of using tiny doses of
something.

Some people suspect the presence of steroids in it. Well, I've taken
those too over the last 35 yrs and NOTHING in that category has been
as effective as this stuff.

Soooooo.... I would like to ask you to do an analysis of this on an
emergent basis before people start killing their kidneys, liver or
brain. If you basically find nothing more than what the bottle says is
in it, it could be the combination or the process of production. Or it
could be that some of the plants being used are being harvested from
an area that has wastewater irrigation or outflow. Diclofenac is
excreted by patients in the wastewater stream and is not filtered out
even here in the USA. It is also readily absorbed by plants so it
could possibly be transmitted to people either in supplements or food
sources. In other words, don't irrigate crops with wastewater! (I
know of places that use spray fields for post-treatment wastewater and
then allow farmers to grow hay on it. Transmission in meat from
grazing animals???)

Sincerely,
Crystal Griffith RN

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I am in total agreement with you on this. This supplement needs to be analyzed thoroughly to insure it is not doing more harm than good. It definitely works but with the ingredients listed it doesn't make sense.

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@megz

You'd have to ask the FDA which released the statement warning about Ortiga nettle products about the safety or otherwise of any particular product. Anything that claims to be "all natural" or masquerades as a supplement rather than a medicine isn't regulated for purity or ingredients. Health warnings aren't usually given either.

I'm painfree taking prednisone, apart from a flare two months ago at 6mg, when I took prescribed Osteopanadol to get through the days till the next doctor's appointment. Prednisone was raised, the pain went away again and I'm reducing again. I do split the dose and take a small evening dose with dinner, currently just 1mg. The rest of the dose, 11mg, I take in the morning. I previously took 2mg as the early evening dose to stay painfree, but am trying 1mg this time. So far so good.

That would be awful to be working and dealing with PMR pain too. If you take prednisone, have you considered splitting the dose?

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@megz Aside from Aleve once in a while, nothing. Doctors won’t listen to me since I’m 52 and this started when I was 43. Mom has PMR, grandpa and aunt had as well. Doc thinks my pain is just from my weight and anxiety (which wasn’t an issue when this started). Doc did give me two one week rounds of prednisone somewhere around years 3 and 6 of this as my ESR rate was 79. I felt amazing relief. By the end of each week and taper down though, I was right back in pain. She didn’t want me on it longer than a week because she said it’s really hard on the body.

My son bought me Juvenon Reprieve to try. Haven’t noticed much relief, and nothing like Umary did that first week before i looked further into it here and got concerned. Now I am afraid of it. So sad because I finally felt hopeful that life was going to be better.

God willing someday it’ll stop just as sudden as it started for both my mom and I.

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@ramsey1022

Interested to see findings. Experienced overnight knee pain relief but in the 7 weeks I was on it gained 7 plus pounds and have had terrible cramps in my legs and feet at night.

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I found a "cure" for my late husband's muscle cramps (due to statin drugs). I got him to keep a bottle of tonic water at the bedside & take a swig when he started having a cramp. Gone within a minute. About 15-20 yrs ago, it was found that we have a neural network in our mouth and throat that reacts the same way as your body yanking your hand away from something hot, i.e. iron. pan, etc. It is part of the autonomic nervous system in the spinal cord. It is triggered by anything bitter. Vinegar, mustard, pickle juice, quinine in tonic water, etc.
He was astonished when it worked. I found it on http://www.peoplespharmacy.com. The husband/wife who publish this are both pharmacologists and have taught at University levels. Live in NC and have always been interested in "grandma's remedies". Researched and have come up with alot of things that really work. Have several books out you can get from a library.

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@crystalrn

I found a "cure" for my late husband's muscle cramps (due to statin drugs). I got him to keep a bottle of tonic water at the bedside & take a swig when he started having a cramp. Gone within a minute. About 15-20 yrs ago, it was found that we have a neural network in our mouth and throat that reacts the same way as your body yanking your hand away from something hot, i.e. iron. pan, etc. It is part of the autonomic nervous system in the spinal cord. It is triggered by anything bitter. Vinegar, mustard, pickle juice, quinine in tonic water, etc.
He was astonished when it worked. I found it on http://www.peoplespharmacy.com. The husband/wife who publish this are both pharmacologists and have taught at University levels. Live in NC and have always been interested in "grandma's remedies". Researched and have come up with alot of things that really work. Have several books out you can get from a library.

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Pickle juice also helps with leg cramps.

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@kmekate707

@megz Aside from Aleve once in a while, nothing. Doctors won’t listen to me since I’m 52 and this started when I was 43. Mom has PMR, grandpa and aunt had as well. Doc thinks my pain is just from my weight and anxiety (which wasn’t an issue when this started). Doc did give me two one week rounds of prednisone somewhere around years 3 and 6 of this as my ESR rate was 79. I felt amazing relief. By the end of each week and taper down though, I was right back in pain. She didn’t want me on it longer than a week because she said it’s really hard on the body.

My son bought me Juvenon Reprieve to try. Haven’t noticed much relief, and nothing like Umary did that first week before i looked further into it here and got concerned. Now I am afraid of it. So sad because I finally felt hopeful that life was going to be better.

God willing someday it’ll stop just as sudden as it started for both my mom and I.

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Get a prescription for Naproxen (Aleve) (500 mg). One a lasts me 2 couple of days. And not as bad for your kidneys.

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@colleenyoung

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warns that some arthritis and pain management products contain hidden ingredients that could be dangerous.

Tainted Arthritis | Pain Products FDA https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication-health-fraud/tainted-arthritis-pain-products

According to the FDA, over-the-counter (OTC) arthritis and pain management products may have potentially harmful hidden ingredients. Use caution before using any OTC arthritis and pain management products.

The research of members participating in this discussion show that Umary may have hidden ingredients that are potentially harmful.

See this helpful article:
- FDA Warns Certain Arthritis and Pain Products May Have Hidden Ingredients https://www.verywellhealth.com/fda-warning-arthritis-pain-products-8348408

The article includes these tips when buying OTC products [Excerpt]:
- "Avoid purchasing products with labels that are in a language you cannot read.
- Familiarize yourself with examples of scams and learn how to spot medication health fraud. For example, look out for offers that claim the product can “do it all,” or rely heavily on personal testimonials without any credible evidence. You should also avoid any product that offers “miracle cures.”
- Be aware of products that claim to be unproven medication alternatives to FDA-approved drugs or have similar effects to prescription drugs.
- Consider the risks of purchasing medicine online or from other countries. Remember that the presence of fraudulent products is not limited to specific locations or platforms.
- Do not use or purchase OTC medicines that lack the required drug facts label. If you are not able to read the label of any prescription, OTC medicine, or dietary supplement, do not use it.
- Check to make sure the manufacturer’s name, address, and phone number are listed on the label.
- Contact an FDA pharmacist about a product’s legitimacy and ask if the agency has taken action against it. You can email the FDA at druginfo@fda.hss.gov or call 855-543-3784 or 301-796-3400.
- Check the safety of a product by visiting the FDA website and searching for the product name to see if it has been involved in any regulatory action. You may also use the FDA’s health fraud database to search for a product’s name and to check for any violations.
- Ask your local pharmacy for advice about OTC products.
- Talk to your provider about all the products you are taking for your medical conditions."

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This explains it! Very scary!
This site won’t allow me to post the link but Google up steinbachonline.com/articles/pharmacist!

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An online blog stated that it tested positive for unlisted Diclofenac, a very strong NSAID which can elevate liver enzymes and increase the chance of cardiac arrest not to mention digestive ulceration with chronic use.
Be careful!!!!

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