Hailey-Hailey Disease

Posted by danavs @danavs, Oct 31, 2016

I have a painful and itchy hereditary skin disease known as Hailey-Hailey. I am 78 years old and it has gotten much worse as I age. Before I fell twice in the last few months I was seeing my dermatologist every two months; now I talk to him on the phone or leave a message about my condition and prescription needs. The worst place on my body is between my legs and behind, causing horrible pain when I sit or try to get in and out of a car. I have the blisters, whelps, crusting, raw skin, and bleeding over much of my body and everything (clothing, bedding) hurts my body. Have had the disease in between legs/behind for 18 months; it gets a little better, then worse again and when urine touches it, I sometimes cry or almost scream. Do any of you or someone you know have HH?

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I was diagnosed by 2010 by biopsy with Grover illness, and five years after I was diagnosed by observation with Haley-haley.
Blisters are worst with age, skin is turning in some gray with elephant skin appearance. Treatment have been doxicycline and clindamycin phosphate 1% lotion. Lately it doesn’t works. I’d like to know if there is any possibility to find cases in remission and know more about treatment. Dermatologists do not have many cases or experience, they look curious but do not have idea about treatment. Thank you l

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I am 83 and have Haley Haley disease for many years. I was told it would get beter as I got older, no such luck. Before it was under breasts bad, now in groin area and worst!. Our dermatologist just moved from St.Louis and was also a teacher at Washington University and she had me on Desoximetsone ointment and it worked for many years. Now this new Derm. put me on a strong prescription of Hydrocortisone 2.5% and it isn't helping. I must make another appointment with this Dermatologist a Dr. Martin. I should have asked her how familiar she is with this rare disease.
When I told her I use a bleach bath she thought that was too strong. My old Derm. before leaving handed me a paper of instructions and she had me do them before.

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@huitzilin76

I, too, have had HH for about 20 years, but was only diagnosed a couple of years ago. I’m using tacrolimus ointment, sometimes a steroid ointment when the inflammation is too much. How much magnesium do you take, and does it cause unwanted side effects (like taking milk of magnesia)?

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Hailey-Hailey
I have had this for over 40 years. I have recently been started on low dose Naltrexone by my dermatologist, 1.5 mg. capsules. They must be taken every day forever. I started a few months ago and it is the first time in 40 years my skin has cleared up and no erupted or fissured skin.
Also, before, during an outbreak, I used 500 mg keflex 4 times a day, used a combination of bactroban cream and clobetasol cream. Then last year the dermatologist added this other cream to be mixed with the other 2 to stop the odor that the outbreak causes..Metronidazole cream. During the out break, 2 times a day, I did a white vinegar wash. Equal amounts white vinegar and warm water ( just takes a small amount), take a white cotton cloth ( I used a cut up white kitchen flour sack towel) and dip in combination and lightly wring out and dab and hold on infected area. This helps with the bacteria that the HH causes.

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I have had this for over 40 years. I have recently been started on low dose Naltrexone by my dermatologist, 1.5 mg. capsules. They must be taken every day forever. I started a few months ago and it is the first time in 40 years my skin has cleared up and no erupted or fissured skin. The small side effects are so worth this.

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@kanaazpereira

Hello @danavs,

Hailey-Hailey disease (HHD) is such a rare skin disease, and it can be so painful; I'm very sorry. However, I'm glad you came to Connect to seek some answers. I'd like to introduce you to a few members; they don't have Hailey-Hailey, but hidradenitis suppurative, another rare skin condition, similar to HHD, and I hope they can provide some insight. Please meet @autumnleaves, @amy75, and @sandig.
I also hope @midnight, @mbrittain, @drew1991, @msdodo987 will return to give us an update on how things are going.

@danavs, have your doctors ever suggested a laser treatment? What do they recommend?

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Laser treatment was not beneficial for me, The outbreak ended up going around the outside of the treatment area.
Hailey-Hailey
I have had this for over 40 years. I have recently been started on low dose Naltrexone by my dermatologist, 1.5 mg. capsules. They must be taken every day forever. I started a few months ago and it is the first time in 40 years my skin has cleared up and no erupted or fissured skin.
Also, before, during an outbreak, I used 500 mg keflex 4 times a day, used a combination of bactroban cream and clobetasol cream. Then last year the dermatologist added this other cream to be mixed with the other 2 to stop the odor that the outbreak causes..Metronidazole cream. During the out break, 2 times a day, I did a white vinegar wash. Equal amounts white vinegar and warm water ( just takes a small amount), take a white cotton cloth ( I used a cut up white kitchen flour sack towel) and dip in combination and lightly wring out and dab and hold on infected area. This helps with the bacteria that the HH causes.

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@danavs

kanaazpereira, Connect Moderator. Thanks. HH is because a missing gene causes the skin cells to become unstuck, so laser surgery is out of the question. I refuse any surgery because it messes up the skin so bad. Even the pads they put on chest and under breast to monitor everything for a colonoscopy leaves my whole chest messed up forever. Last time they used juvenile pads and it wasn't quite as bad. Skin on skin causes flare-ups, so I pat skin with corn starch on much of body every day. I have been using corticosteroids for years which is the only thing that helps to keep it from spreading and lessons the pain, but it also causes the skin to become thin. Anti-fungals helps some with the itching. Heat outside and heating in winter inside makes condition worse. I trust my dermatologist with treatment and he also has wonderful, caring bedside manners - which we all need.

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Hailey-Hailey
I have had this for over 40 years. I have recently been started on low dose Naltrexone by my dermatologist, 1.5 mg. capsules. They must be taken every day forever. I started a few months ago and it is the first time in 40 years my skin has cleared up and no erupted or fissured skin.
Also, before, during an outbreak, I used 500 mg keflex 4 times a day, used a combination of bactroban cream and clobetasol cream. Then last year the dermatologist added this other cream to be mixed with the other 2 to stop the odor that the outbreak causes..Metronidazole cream. During the out break, 2 times a day, I did a white vinegar wash. Equal amounts white vinegar and warm water ( just takes a small amount), take a white cotton cloth ( I used a cut up white kitchen flour sack towel) and dip in combination and lightly wring out and dab and hold on infected area. This helps with the bacteria that the HH causes.

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@k108

I am Japanese. please tell me. Is it difficult to treat with naltrexone alone without tacrolimus? Tacrolimus is not prescribed in Japan because of its side effects. Naltrexone has been in use for 4 days. I also take magnesium supplements.

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Hailey Hailey
I have been taking low dose naltrexone 1.5 mg for a few months and am completely cleared up. But this is something you must always take, if you stop taking it, the out break will re occur.

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@lynnlane

My husband missed for awhile with no side affects. This is the oral kind. But, if he misses a dose of the tacrolimus, it will immediately start to flair. Once he takes his missed dose, it goes away immediately. They say after a time, the tacrolimus may build up enough to go off indefinitely, but we are not there yet. The tacrolimus seems to be the treatment that works, maybe without the naltrexone, but don't want to go without just in case it's a cocktail of the two. Also, when you do the tacrolimus, it can be tough on kidneys, he has to get constant blood work done to continue getting the prescription.

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I only use the low dose naltrexone 1.5mg now, since the HHD has cleared, since I started taking it a few months ago. I haven't had to use any of the creams. Just take the naltrexone, forever I guess. I wish it didn't cause insomnia, and dreams. But the clear skin is worth it. I had my first HHD outbreak in 1980 and they didn't know what it was, they said it was herpes.

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@skrammy54

I only use the low dose naltrexone 1.5mg now, since the HHD has cleared, since I started taking it a few months ago. I haven't had to use any of the creams. Just take the naltrexone, forever I guess. I wish it didn't cause insomnia, and dreams. But the clear skin is worth it. I had my first HHD outbreak in 1980 and they didn't know what it was, they said it was herpes.

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Hi @skrammy, welcome. I'm glad that low-dose naltrexone is helping you manage Hailey-Hailey. Is the naltrexone causing the insomnia and vivid dreams?

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@colleenyoung

Hi @skrammy, welcome. I'm glad that low-dose naltrexone is helping you manage Hailey-Hailey. Is the naltrexone causing the insomnia and vivid dreams?

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Yes I have insomnia and now that you mention it, vivid dreams. But I have also noted anxiety and fatigue, but that is probably from the insomnia. My husband and I were weighing the options, have the constant issue of outbreak and pain with it or deal with all the side effects.

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