Frozen shoulder

Posted by auntieoakley @auntieoakley, Tue, Jul 30 9:25pm

About 4 months ago I was diagnosed with a frozen shoulder, the doctor said take nsaids which I was already taking. Then I had a hospital stay for prancreatitis, complicated by a perforating ulcer and was told it was from nsaids and never to take them again. So here I am responsible for everything over 5 lbs at our house with a shoulder that just never stops hurting. Into my elbow, into my collarbone, and into my neck. Nothing really helps, not ice, not heat, not creams or lidocaine. Does anyone have suggestions for me. The doctor said it would resolve itself in one to three years but in another month I will be ready to cut it off myself.

@auntieoakley, Good evening, Welcome. I am so sorry that you are having pain from a frozen shoulder. As you probably know, frozen shoulder happens because of immobility. The fascia which surrounds the joint area becomes compressed and restricted. Although I have never had that happen to me after any of the four shoulder surgeries, I was warned about it by the orthopedic surgeon.

You asked for suggestions and I am going to attempt to give that my best shot. In order to remove the restrictions, you may want to try Myofascial Release Therapy, MFR. It is a gentle way to release restrictions. You may also be taught the at-home treatments that you can do between sessions.

There is a discussion group on Connect that may be of additional help.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/

There are multiple levels of certification for MFR therapists. The Expert level is the highest proficiency with specialized training in most areas of the body.
If you decide that you would like to contact an MFR therapist there is a registry on the following website:
https://myofascialrelease.com/

If there is no one listed in your area, you may find an answer on this site:
https://www.myofascialrelease.com/treatment/centers/sedona/

or….since, not all MFR therapists are listed, you can just let me know where you are located and I will do my best to acquaint you with MFR therapists in your vicinity. May you soon be free of suffering. Chris

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@auntieoakley Years ago I was driving my car when I rear ended another and my shoulders wrapped around the stearing wheel . My Mom hit her head on the window . I was diagnosed with frozen shoulders . The Dr. sent me to P.T. for a long time till it got better . Ask your Dr. about P.T.

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Thank you both very much. Interestingly my shoulder was anything but immobile prior to this. I just woke up one day and the top of my arm hurt, it gradually got more and more painful and more and more restricted over a couple weeks. I made the appt. got the mri, and the doctor said frozen shoulder. I think I will call and see about getting some pt. There is a very good orthopedic center an hour away. Because I cannot stop doing the necessary things at our house, something will have to give soon.

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@lioness

@auntieoakley Years ago I was driving my car when I rear ended another and my shoulders wrapped around the stearing wheel . My Mom hit her head on the window . I was diagnosed with frozen shoulders . The Dr. sent me to P.T. for a long time till it got better . Ask your Dr. about P.T.

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Can you tell me how long it took? I can manage something if I know there is an end in sight.

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@auntieoakley

Can you tell me how long it took? I can manage something if I know there is an end in sight.

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@auntieoakley It was along time ago but seems to me I was in P.T. about 2-3 months I'm glad you are going to go to P.T. Imsure this will help as well as Aqua exercise for the shoulder ask the Dr. about this also Water helps so much. With my fractured back the Dr. put me in P.T. in the water

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Thank you, I guess pt is scheduling out 6 weeks.

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@artscaping

@auntieoakley, Good evening, Welcome. I am so sorry that you are having pain from a frozen shoulder. As you probably know, frozen shoulder happens because of immobility. The fascia which surrounds the joint area becomes compressed and restricted. Although I have never had that happen to me after any of the four shoulder surgeries, I was warned about it by the orthopedic surgeon.

You asked for suggestions and I am going to attempt to give that my best shot. In order to remove the restrictions, you may want to try Myofascial Release Therapy, MFR. It is a gentle way to release restrictions. You may also be taught the at-home treatments that you can do between sessions.

There is a discussion group on Connect that may be of additional help.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/

There are multiple levels of certification for MFR therapists. The Expert level is the highest proficiency with specialized training in most areas of the body.
If you decide that you would like to contact an MFR therapist there is a registry on the following website:
https://myofascialrelease.com/

If there is no one listed in your area, you may find an answer on this site:
https://www.myofascialrelease.com/treatment/centers/sedona/

or….since, not all MFR therapists are listed, you can just let me know where you are located and I will do my best to acquaint you with MFR therapists in your vicinity. May you soon be free of suffering. Chris

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I guess myofascial release is not a thing in rural oregon. I noticed there were only three clinics. I did call and ask for pt, I am hopeful that when they finally get me in, that it will be helpful.

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@auntieoakley

Thank you, I guess pt is scheduling out 6 weeks.

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@auntieoakley I'm glad to hear this . When I couldn't take therapy on land I told the Dr. and he ordered it in the water for me which was much better . Let us know ,we care

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I guess myofascial release is not a thing in rural oregon. I noticed there were only three clinics. I did call and ask for pt, I am hopeful that when they finally get me in, that it will be helpful.

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@auntieoakley, I found about 10 Expert level MFR therapists in and around Portland. Also in Corvalis, Lake Oswego, Ashland, Grants Pass, Eugene, and Bend. Are you within driving distance to any of those towns? If you feel comfortable giving me your location, I have another therapist list that I can peruse for you. Hope you are taking time to be joyful today. Chris

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@artscaping

@auntieoakley, I found about 10 Expert level MFR therapists in and around Portland. Also in Corvalis, Lake Oswego, Ashland, Grants Pass, Eugene, and Bend. Are you within driving distance to any of those towns? If you feel comfortable giving me your location, I have another therapist list that I can peruse for you. Hope you are taking time to be joyful today. Chris

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I am not but Slocum orthopedics in Eugene said they have someone, they are only a couple hours drive, and they will do my pt as well. Unfortunately they will not be able to get me in any sooner so 4 to 6 weeks before I start.

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@lioness

@auntieoakley I'm glad to hear this . When I couldn't take therapy on land I told the Dr. and he ordered it in the water for me which was much better . Let us know ,we care

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Thank you I am hopeful again!

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@auntieoakley There,s always a light at the end you just have to look for it and you have by finding us on connect .I never had MFR as Chris mentioned , no one around here or to far to travel. We just have to do what we can .

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@auntieoakley Have you had a diagnosis of why your shoulder is frozen? I have had this happen to both shoulders. They were at different times and for different reasons, but the initial treatment for both was to try cortisone injection followed by PT. The next step (had these not worked) would have been surgery. It will be important to see why the shoulder is frozen. For me an MRI showed that Shoulder #1 was due to a bone spur. Shoulder #2 was due to a torn rotator cuff. I never knew how much I depended on my shoulders' range of motion until it was gone. The cortisone/PT did work, but it took about 10 weeks before I got full range of motion back.

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@auntieoakley, that_girl, I see a post to you @auntieoakley, from @that_girl. For her situation, she thought it took about 10 weeks. That may be different for you. Be free of suffering today. Chris

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@auntieoakley Have you had a diagnosis of why your shoulder is frozen? I have had this happen to both shoulders. They were at different times and for different reasons, but the initial treatment for both was to try cortisone injection followed by PT. The next step (had these not worked) would have been surgery. It will be important to see why the shoulder is frozen. For me an MRI showed that Shoulder #1 was due to a bone spur. Shoulder #2 was due to a torn rotator cuff. I never knew how much I depended on my shoulders' range of motion until it was gone. The cortisone/PT did work, but it took about 10 weeks before I got full range of motion back.

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Apparently my body likes to create unnecessary scar tissue, there was no injury and no rotator cuff tear. But the shoulder capsule was showing adhesions. I always slept on this side after they put a plate in the other clavicle, I guess maybe that was it. But I have called for another appointment to check the structures surrounding it, just in case something is wounded somehow. The truth is I play with large animals and I do all of the heavy lifting at our home. My husband has bone cancer and a 5 lb. lift limit. So it is always possible I injured it but I don’t remember anything except just waking up one day to the beginning of pain. The doctor found no reason for the scar tissue, but did say he had no real effective treatments. He said ride it out, and it would resolve itself in 1 to 3 years. Thanks to connect I am not just accepting that, but I will stay with treatments that are recommended by Mayo because I trust them. I can not justify traveling there for a hurt shoulder but I have been there many times with my husband. I also cannot really afford travel and uninsured treatments that might or might not be helpful. 10 weeks for you sounds like possibly 16 weeks for me. That is light at the end of the tunnel, in fact geez that is about how long since I was diagnosed, I can do that!

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