My Experience on Evenity for Treating Osteoporosis

Posted by arlene7 @arlene7, Jul 7, 2020

Thought I would share for those considering or on Evenity for osteoporosis:
Afer much research and discussions with my GP and Cardiologist, I have decided to start my treatment with Evenity injections. As with all drugs, there are many side effects. My biggest concerns were stroke and heart attack. However, considering that I do no have any history for either, for me personally, the benefits outweigh the risks. As my GP said to me, "if everyone only thought about the side effects of the drugs, no one would be taking them".

I had my first injections (subcutaneously in the back of each arm) on June 30th. The nurse that administered the injections discussed the drug in depth, along with all the possibilities that may occur. She also mentioned that for all the patients that she has seen, none has had any side effects.

The injections are once a month for only one year, so I'm hoping that this works well for me and I can improve my bone density, especially in my spine, where I need it the most.

My endocronologist has also prescribed Hydrochlorthiazide for my idiopathic hypocalcemia. I have an appointment with an allergist this month to confirm whether I still have an allergy to sulfa drugs, since this drug contains sulfa. Apart from this I take D3 orally and try to obtain additional calcium through foods not supplements. Trying to walk 3-4 times a week and will begin with a few weight bearing exercises.

My journey began September, 2019 when I was diagnosed with severe osteoporosis. After waiting to see three doctors, receiving three denials from insurance company for Evenity, which took several months, I am hopefully on my way for a favorful outcome.

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@spiderplant

As kmichels writes one has to be proactive but it sure can be tough / confusing. In my case I wish I could get a second opinion as far as post-Evenity plans but as that means waiting months for an appointment that's off the table.

I am two months after my last Evenity year of shots and sounds like most people here were told to be concerned about losing their gains and go into another treatment soon after. I had my scan 6 weeks after and doctor appointment 7 weeks after (tried hard to get it sooner but no luck) and the endocrinologist insisted that gains remain for 3 months and seemed totally chill on the subject… seems we all are told such different things!

He’s encouraging me to go with Reclast saying 30% feel sick the first few days and then are fine and yes heart issues are rare but possible (didn’t mention the serious kidney issue risks) … or I could go with Fosomax but that it’s less effective. My dentist said Reclast is very potent stuff and better in general to take another option.
...I’m 64 and changes after Evenity (6 weeks later) were spine -3.7 to -2.4, hip -3 to -2.7, f.neck -3.4 to -3.1 and arm -2.2 to -2.4.

This doctor is in a well known big hospital. Years ago I was sent by the head of another department for a put in as urgent MRI — they saw me late at night that same day — for something all doctors said after was obviously unnecessary. It left me with a fear that I’m trying to get over that there’s incentive to push for whatever they can bill for and not necessarily what's best there. They get nothing from Fosomax as we get that from any drugstore. So I’m nervous that just as the department seemed lackadaisical about my appointment timing now might me about the treatment options.

Or maybe he’s on the ball with all of it and weighs sensibly risk vs gains?

I had a female endocrinologist initially who was detail oriented and got into the weeds with her concerns and explanations but she chose to go into another specialty. So wish I had her ear now!

But what to do next with confidence: I just don’t know.
It’s great to be able to read other’s thoughts and experiences though.

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@spiderplant, How did you get to have so many body parts measured on your DEXA? Is there a way your Dr puts in for that. My DEXA was only on my decanter and spine, even though my Dr put extremity on the script. I asked for wrist, but the tech wouldn't do it.

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I did half a dose of the Evenity infusion and am doing low dose Reclast (due to kidney issues and afib). However I do remember reading that effectiveness of Evenity is dose dependend so that you get more progress with a higher dose. I need to check that out before stating with certainty. As @normhorn posted, there is a study showing 2mg of Reclast is effective (better for hips, not as good for spine) as 4mg. I printed that out awhile ago to take to my doctor! Ben Ledeer MD at MGH mentions on a YouTube video that a half dose may be as good and also that the interval between Reclast infusions cold be longer.

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I saved the article this time to make it easier to retrieve.

Excert from it:
"3.2.1. Percentage change in BMD
For the primary efficacy endpoint, each dose of romosozumab increased BMD at the lumbar spine significantly compared with placebo at month 12 (Fig. 2 and Supplemental Table S1). The mean percentage increase from baseline was 0.9% in the placebo group and 8.4%, 13.3%, and 16.9% in the romosozumab 70, 140, and 210 mg QM groups, respectively (all p < 0.001 vs placebo). The dose-dependent effect of romosozumab on BMD at the lumbar spine at month 12 was shown by statistically significant differences for the comparisons between each of the QM doses (140 vs 70 mg, 210 vs 70 mg, and 210 vs 140 mg; p < 0.001 for all).'

Shared files

Evenity- dosage variation (Evenity-dosage-variation.pdf)

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@windyshores

@spiderplant I have a lower dose but more frequently- of Reclast. I have kidney disease and get IV hydration (but really two big cups of water are the same) and an infusion over an hour. The first time I had a fever and was fluish but have been fine since. I react to everything but Reclast has been fine.

My doctor wanted me to have Reclast before two months was up after Evenity but I only did 4 months of Evenity (after Tymlos) so the antiresorptive effect of Evenity for me may have been lower.

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You may have explained before, but why did you only do 4 months of Evenity?

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@naturegirl5

@yogalisac I am in the U.S. I have Original Medicare. Medicare Part B ($174.70/month with an annual deductible $240)) and my supplemental insurance ($160/mo) paid the full price of $5000 (yikes!!) for the Evenity each month. I pay out-of-pocket for my Traditional (also referred to as Original) Medicare Plan and I easily meet the deductible every year. Insurance is a mess in the U.S. as you probably know. With Original Medicare I do not need pre-approval.

$800 per month is a lot. Evenity is still at the propriety phase with no generic on the market so the medication is expensive.

I shared a lot of information but does this answer your question? What province are you in?

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Thanks! I'm in Ontario

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@ripley

You may have explained before, but why did you only do 4 months of Evenity?

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@ripley I had already done 2 years of Tymlos and initially thought that if I had side effects on Evenity I would try to do the early months when anabolic action is stronger. I went on Reclast after Evenity. I did have some neuro symptoms (chest and forearms burning) on Evenity but I mainly wanted to top off Tymlos with a burst of P1NP and save 8 months of Evenity for later. This is NOT an approved protocol.

A study was posted about doing 6 months Evenity then going on Reclast rather than doing the last 6 months of Evenity, since both are anti-resorptives. It is still ongoing.
I read that the initial pre-market expectation with Evenity was that it would be anabolic the whole time and the fact that it isn't, was a surprise once it went on the market.

I saw another study proposing short bursts of Evenity between other drugs, like Reclast. All of this research is ongoing since Evenity is so new (2019).

My friends who did the full year had remarkable gains on Evenity. I have a DEXA in April but will never know what those 4 months did since I have been on Reclast. My doc says they don't really know how Evenity works (it inhibits sclerostin of course). IF I were a newbie and doing my first drug I would do the full year.

I am in this for the long term with 7 spinal fractures. Some may do Evenity, a year or two of Reclast and be done. That is not me! Again, most of what I have done is individual, not established protocol and since I have kidney disease, lupus and afib my doctors tend to be flexible with me.

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@windyshores

@ripley I had already done 2 years of Tymlos and initially thought that if I had side effects on Evenity I would try to do the early months when anabolic action is stronger. I went on Reclast after Evenity. I did have some neuro symptoms (chest and forearms burning) on Evenity but I mainly wanted to top off Tymlos with a burst of P1NP and save 8 months of Evenity for later. This is NOT an approved protocol.

A study was posted about doing 6 months Evenity then going on Reclast rather than doing the last 6 months of Evenity, since both are anti-resorptives. It is still ongoing.
I read that the initial pre-market expectation with Evenity was that it would be anabolic the whole time and the fact that it isn't, was a surprise once it went on the market.

I saw another study proposing short bursts of Evenity between other drugs, like Reclast. All of this research is ongoing since Evenity is so new (2019).

My friends who did the full year had remarkable gains on Evenity. I have a DEXA in April but will never know what those 4 months did since I have been on Reclast. My doc says they don't really know how Evenity works (it inhibits sclerostin of course). IF I were a newbie and doing my first drug I would do the full year.

I am in this for the long term with 7 spinal fractures. Some may do Evenity, a year or two of Reclast and be done. That is not me! Again, most of what I have done is individual, not established protocol and since I have kidney disease, lupus and afib my doctors tend to be flexible with me.

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I have severe osteoporosis (-3.9 in spine). I can't take Forteo or Tymlos due to parathyroid issues. My endocrinologist said I could either try Fosamax for a year or so and if that didn't improve my scores, he said I could then try Evenity. He didn't think a year or so on Fosamax would lower the effectiveness of Evenity very much. The other option is to start with Evenity, followed by Fosamax.

If I take Evenity first, followed by 5 years on Fosamax -- what do I do after that? Will I lose any gains from Evenity if I don't continue on something? There really isn't another drug that I can take after that, as far as I know.

Also, you mentioned in another post that "Reclast and Fosamax, can be visualized as coating bone". Do you know how Evenity works to improve bones, and what is the quality of the bone improvement? Thanks.

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@ripley

I have severe osteoporosis (-3.9 in spine). I can't take Forteo or Tymlos due to parathyroid issues. My endocrinologist said I could either try Fosamax for a year or so and if that didn't improve my scores, he said I could then try Evenity. He didn't think a year or so on Fosamax would lower the effectiveness of Evenity very much. The other option is to start with Evenity, followed by Fosamax.

If I take Evenity first, followed by 5 years on Fosamax -- what do I do after that? Will I lose any gains from Evenity if I don't continue on something? There really isn't another drug that I can take after that, as far as I know.

Also, you mentioned in another post that "Reclast and Fosamax, can be visualized as coating bone". Do you know how Evenity works to improve bones, and what is the quality of the bone improvement? Thanks.

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@ripley people born with low sclerostin have really thick bones. So researchers got the idea of addressing bone loss by inhibiting sclerostin. They initially thought, I read, that inhibiting sclerostin would be anabolic the whole year but it is apparently anti-resorptive for at least the second half. My esteemed doctor said they don't really know how it works!
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/a-new-therapy-for-osteoporosis-romosozumab-2019071717339
"Sclerostin is a protein that helps regulate bone metabolism. Produced by osteocytes (bone cells), it inhibits bone formation (making new bone). Romosozumab binds sclerostin, which keeps it from blocking the signaling pathway for new bone formation. The result is an increase in new bone. To a lesser degree, it also decreases bone resorption (breakdown of bone)."

Forteo and TYmlos raise both P1NP and CTX. Evenity is the only drug that raises P1NP and reduces CTX by itself (Ben Leder MD on You Tube and Keith McCormick).

We are all limited to 3-5 years on a bisphosphonate so for that and other reasons I would do Evenity first. There doesn't seem to be a plan for us for the long term except for drug holidays after a period of Fosamax or Reclast,

Sclerostin has functions throughout the body.

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Have you finished the 12 months of Evenity?

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I also meant to ask how much out of pocket did you have to pay?

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