Eliquis and AFIB

Posted by lenmayo @lenmayo, Apr 18, 2024

Does anyone who has occasional AFIB not take Eliquis?

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@tanyawic An ablation damages tissues. It 'cauterizes' endothelial tissue lining the left atrium in the case of AF. Damaged tissues release cytokines which cause inflammation. Inflamed and damaged tissues are roughened and will have stuff flowing adjacent to them stick to them, things like blood cells and platelets. Platelets cause clots.

You WANT an anticoagulant issued to you with instructions to take it for at least three months post ablation. If a Watchman were implanted in the LAA at the same time, or later, you would WANT a DOAC to take for close to a year or until the confirmatory TEE shows no leakage.

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In today's WSJ,(7-30-26) The title of the article is, "Boston Scientific Cuts View on Implant Woes". "Doctors are changing their referral practices for the Watchman device because there has been a lot of evidence published in recent months about the risk of stroke for people with atrial fibrillation" stated chief executive Mike Mahoney.
"Executives said they expect challenges with Watchman to continue into 2027. They also anticipate a new competitor will enter the market, potentially taking away market share next year".

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In today's WSJ,(7-30-26) The title of the article is, "Boston Scientific Cuts View on Implant Woes". "Doctors are changing their referral practices for the Watchman device because there has been a lot of evidence published in recent months about the risk of stroke for people with atrial fibrillation" stated chief executive Mike Mahoney.
"Executives said they expect challenges with Watchman to continue into 2027. They also anticipate a new competitor will enter the market, potentially taking away market share next year".

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@highmtnview Yes, I saw a study, can't remember who pointed it out to me, and this would be about six-eight weeks ago now, that the Watchman is not enjoying a long-term study's thumb up. It turns out that there is a lot more chance of leakage from them than is evident from initial reports, so we may find that something better will have to come along and replace it. More to follow...I hope. Thanks for the reminder.

I hope that further research finds that we need to install Watchmen differently or do other follow-up so that their efficacy improves, and that's only if further study continues to show they have problems. It may only be 'operator error.'

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Yes I was on Eliquis very expensive. Even with insurance my cardiologist took me off I am glad I did not like the side effects.

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@highmtnview Yes, I saw a study, can't remember who pointed it out to me, and this would be about six-eight weeks ago now, that the Watchman is not enjoying a long-term study's thumb up. It turns out that there is a lot more chance of leakage from them than is evident from initial reports, so we may find that something better will have to come along and replace it. More to follow...I hope. Thanks for the reminder.

I hope that further research finds that we need to install Watchmen differently or do other follow-up so that their efficacy improves, and that's only if further study continues to show they have problems. It may only be 'operator error.'

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@gloaming
Not really a reassuring feeling knowing that they are learning as they go while working on you. But part of the process I guess. I wonder if they ever tell a patient that they are the first patient Dr.X is working on since graduating.😊

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Yes I was on Eliquis very expensive. Even with insurance my cardiologist took me off I am glad I did not like the side effects.

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@beachbum70 Glad you feel better now. What side effects did you have?

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@beachbum70 Glad you feel better now. What side effects did you have?

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@jaybee51 bruising and easily bleeding I'm very active and every time I would just hit my skin on something it would bleed and Bruise quickly

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@highmtnview Yes, I saw a study, can't remember who pointed it out to me, and this would be about six-eight weeks ago now, that the Watchman is not enjoying a long-term study's thumb up. It turns out that there is a lot more chance of leakage from them than is evident from initial reports, so we may find that something better will have to come along and replace it. More to follow...I hope. Thanks for the reminder.

I hope that further research finds that we need to install Watchmen differently or do other follow-up so that their efficacy improves, and that's only if further study continues to show they have problems. It may only be 'operator error.'

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@gloaming
I’ll have to look for the studies since I just had the watchman recommended for me.

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Is anyone else having extreme side effects from Eliquis? (AV node ablation with pacemaker placement 4 months ago)
Taking 5 mg twice a day.
stomach cramps, stomach burning sensation, and diarrhea.
Dr. Presecirbed generic Pepcid, and that makes me very dizzy.
HELP.

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Is anyone else having extreme side effects from Eliquis? (AV node ablation with pacemaker placement 4 months ago)
Taking 5 mg twice a day.
stomach cramps, stomach burning sensation, and diarrhea.
Dr. Presecirbed generic Pepcid, and that makes me very dizzy.
HELP.

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@rmig I have never seen that set of problems arise from a patient on apixaban, but we're all individuals with individual 'negotiations' going on inside of us when we take a drug or a cocktail of them. You may need probiotics, maybe consume some kimchi or kombucha, or even a temporary fast might help (at least 48 hours, longer if you can*...). Note that these are what I would try, having some experience with this, and that I am not suggesting you SHOULD DO IT AS WELL: I am not qualified to give any medical advice, only to relate my own experience.

Even then, an endoscopy might show something right out of the blue. Please consult a physician about these symptoms.

* Fasting isn't just stopping eating. After a while it can disrupt electrolyte imbalance, so every 12 hours or so you need to drink a sport drink with no sugars (NUUN tablets dissolved). Read up on 'How to fast successfully' before you attempt this....IF....you attempt to do this. Fasting can help to repair the stomach lining if it goes on long enough, for example.

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