Do you know about Telecoils & Hearing Loops in Public Spaces?

Posted by pegbell @pegbell, May 20, 2019

Hoping to get some honest feedback from folks on whether or not they have been told about how to use the telecoil (T-Coil) in their hearing aid or CI. Ideally, the information is shared freely and helps people take advantage of the wireless solution to hearing clearly in noisy public spaces. Like a ramp for a wheelchair, a hearing loop system delivers audio directly to personal hearing devices without the need for any other equipment at places like hospitals, theaters, courtrooms, classrooms, meeting spaces, museums, etc.
So, the questions is this: when you first got your hearing device, were you told about the telecoil and using hearing loops? Simple yes or no is fine. If you'd like to share more please feel free. THANK YOU!

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You are more a people person. I am not. I am active because I love it. I will perhaps join a senior center . Ping pong / billiards anyone .maybe learn pickleball.. I do not mind being alone and that’s an issue with everyone . I did join friend in the city group and someone kicked me out- and she was allowed to-she always winced when I talk . Very sad she was allowed to do this. The president and board members say otherwise even with email group. Meet up is something I do sometimes. I go to jazz events . Life is hard and it is easier for me without folks-sorry

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T cos were around long before looks systems. It was for landline phone help more then 17 years ago. Thing is because of the local chapters and conventions I found out about t coils for hearing looped setups – wiring along the floor etc to hear direct to tcoil for Amtrak announcements . Meetings are looped so more folks can hear at a chslter meeting. I use ticks as a fm recieved almost to better hear at music events/ tv without captions
My aids being 1$ years old has better analog hearing quality
at this convention and at local chapter meetings; I am hearing audiologists are not encouraging tcoil setting . They assumed Bluetooth setup works for looped setup s and all. The convention folks says otherwise.. sounds like a new invention to takes place tcoil/ blurooth combo . Hard to keep track. Jam not tech savvy.

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Yes, I have a 'good' audiologist and she told me my t-coils – one setting for phone, one for public looping. She makes a good point though. No one uses looping. But that's changing! (I hope I hope) See the latest issue of Hearing Life by the Hearing Loss Association of America – all about looping. And https://www.hearingloss.org/hearing-help/technology/hat/hearing-loop-technology/

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@mmyatt01757

Yes, I have a 'good' audiologist and she told me my t-coils – one setting for phone, one for public looping. She makes a good point though. No one uses looping. But that's changing! (I hope I hope) See the latest issue of Hearing Life by the Hearing Loss Association of America – all about looping. And https://www.hearingloss.org/hearing-help/technology/hat/hearing-loop-technology/

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When looping is known . To be available and how to access it – it is used. Sunday’s back from. New York.city on Amtrak was less traumatic by accessing the loop for announcements. Bluetooth may be the new way to access or not. You can only do so settings in hearing aids. Has anyone seen what Bluetooth does. I cannot because my aids are too old.

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Telecoils are beneficial not only for hearing loops but also use with neckloops and ADA mandated hearing assistive technology. Telecoils also work with most headsets (yes it can be a bit awkward to position over a hearing aid or CI – but can work) and audio wands used for audio tours in the US and abroad. Hearing loops and Telecoils are expected to be around for at least another 10-15 years or longer. See recent statement from the IHAC committee.

Shared files

IHAC_Hearing Loops and Telecoils statement (IHAC_Hearing-Loops-and-Telecoils-statement.pdf)

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@bookysue

You are more a people person. I am not. I am active because I love it. I will perhaps join a senior center . Ping pong / billiards anyone .maybe learn pickleball.. I do not mind being alone and that’s an issue with everyone . I did join friend in the city group and someone kicked me out- and she was allowed to-she always winced when I talk . Very sad she was allowed to do this. The president and board members say otherwise even with email group. Meet up is something I do sometimes. I go to jazz events . Life is hard and it is easier for me without folks-sorry

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There are many times when I try to tell myself that life is easier without folks, but – speaking only for myself – I find that even very superficial interactions with people make me feel a bit happier. Right now I agree with you that it's just too hard – after six months of hoping I'll be able to join in the discussion with a local book group, I find the room where they meet (and the pace of the discussion and the distance they sit from one another) is just an impossible hearing situation for me. I know I'm supposed to whip out a microphone or Roger pen for them to pass around and ask them to talk more slowly to accommodate me. But I doubt it would help even if I were assertive and well equipped enough to ask. I'm feeling embarrassed because I rarely join in the discussion and still feel like a not very bright outsider, so I'm planning to quit the group. Bummer.
All I can think – speaking only for myself again – is that eventually I'll come across another situation which will work out better. But right now I'm feeling discouraged and planning to take a few months before I try something new.

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@asklar02492

There are many times when I try to tell myself that life is easier without folks, but – speaking only for myself – I find that even very superficial interactions with people make me feel a bit happier. Right now I agree with you that it's just too hard – after six months of hoping I'll be able to join in the discussion with a local book group, I find the room where they meet (and the pace of the discussion and the distance they sit from one another) is just an impossible hearing situation for me. I know I'm supposed to whip out a microphone or Roger pen for them to pass around and ask them to talk more slowly to accommodate me. But I doubt it would help even if I were assertive and well equipped enough to ask. I'm feeling embarrassed because I rarely join in the discussion and still feel like a not very bright outsider, so I'm planning to quit the group. Bummer.
All I can think – speaking only for myself again – is that eventually I'll come across another situation which will work out better. But right now I'm feeling discouraged and planning to take a few months before I try something new.

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I belong to book club at the local library and have little problem hearing with my HAs.

Yet, I know the difficulty you may be having because I attend meetings for a group that I belong to in my church. I have tremendous difficulty hearing in that setting which LOOKS about the same size. So I wondering if there is something about the acoustics that might account for the marked difference. Could someone with knowledge of the factors that go into good acoustics pipe in here?

Thanks,
Peg in Philadelphia

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Don’t they have a device that can be put is in a middle of a table err. that bigger than a mike – any inventors out there.

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@hearingpeg

I belong to book club at the local library and have little problem hearing with my HAs.

Yet, I know the difficulty you may be having because I attend meetings for a group that I belong to in my church. I have tremendous difficulty hearing in that setting which LOOKS about the same size. So I wondering if there is something about the acoustics that might account for the marked difference. Could someone with knowledge of the factors that go into good acoustics pipe in here?

Thanks,
Peg in Philadelphia

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What I've heard people (who know much more than me) say: Hearing aids amplify ALL sounds and in some spaces that is counter-productive – causing distortion, reverberation and overall, a lack of clarity for the sounds that you DO really want to hear. Some hearing aid manufacturers offer "apps" that offer options via your phone and these may help – letting you control the "direction" of the hearing aids. The hearing loop solution discussed here isolates the audio signal produced by a PA system, or local microphone, from all background noises and pipes it directly to the telecoil in a hearing aid, implant or loop listening device. The local microphone could be a "boundary mic" or a few of them, placed on a table used by a group such as the book club, that links to the loop system. I hope this helps but if not, please let me know.

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@bookysue

Don’t they have a device that can be put is in a middle of a table err. that bigger than a mike – any inventors out there.

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There are small 1:1 loop devices that can be used on table tops and they can be linked to one or more external microphones. The "boundary" mic can be daisy-chained to cover a long table and allows for any speaker's voice to get piped to all of the telecoils in the "loop" field. Loop designers/installers can get very creative with where they install the cooper coil loop that creates the audio field — under a table or counter, overhead in a ceiling tile, overhead in a hanging disc, under a floor mat, or within a seat cushion.

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@pegbell

There are small 1:1 loop devices that can be used on table tops and they can be linked to one or more external microphones. The "boundary" mic can be daisy-chained to cover a long table and allows for any speaker's voice to get piped to all of the telecoils in the "loop" field. Loop designers/installers can get very creative with where they install the cooper coil loop that creates the audio field — under a table or counter, overhead in a ceiling tile, overhead in a hanging disc, under a floor mat, or within a seat cushion.

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Thanks for the information. My Phonak hearing aides do have a "hearing in noise" setting, but it doesn't seem to work very well for me – it's as if what I'm trying to hear is reduced in volume along with the background noise. Maybe I'll try for another brand of hearing aide next time. I think I will check out the small loops if I can find a vendor (does anyone know where small loops are sold?). Thanks again!

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@asklar02492

Thanks for the information. My Phonak hearing aides do have a "hearing in noise" setting, but it doesn't seem to work very well for me – it's as if what I'm trying to hear is reduced in volume along with the background noise. Maybe I'll try for another brand of hearing aide next time. I think I will check out the small loops if I can find a vendor (does anyone know where small loops are sold?). Thanks again!

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There are a few listed in the Harris Catalog and you could purchase one, and carry it with you…but your best bet may be to contact a local hearing loop designer/installer because it is typically a B2B (business-to-business) transaction. (The general public doesn't pay for wheelchair ramps – and should not have to pay for hearing loop installs.) See this site for some ideas or let me know where you are located. http://www.hearingloop.org/vendors.htm This site is published by Dr. Myers, a super-champion of looping in the US.

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@asklar02492

Thanks for the information. My Phonak hearing aides do have a "hearing in noise" setting, but it doesn't seem to work very well for me – it's as if what I'm trying to hear is reduced in volume along with the background noise. Maybe I'll try for another brand of hearing aide next time. I think I will check out the small loops if I can find a vendor (does anyone know where small loops are sold?). Thanks again!

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@asklar02492
Hi,

I have Phonak aids with 2 speech in noise programs , one is directional and the other is omnidirectional. I asked my Audi if she could up the speech volume without touching the noise suppression setting in both these programs and she did. The way she raises the volume is different from the way we do it which just makes everything louder.
So it can be done. Now the voices are louder and the background is not. I am not losing any speech sounds and I have not adjusted the volume in any environment since she made the adjustment. I have the omnidirectional voice setting just a tad louder….it sounds a little loud in a quiet setting but out in the real world it works.
If your Audi is unsure how to do this, have her call Phonak while you are in the office and they will instruct her. Don’t let the Audi tell you it can’t be done.

Regards from FL Mary

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Thanks for the information. I'm not sure which hearing in noise program I have, but I will definitely make an appointment with my audiologist to adjust. I'm really excited – I hope it works!

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