PMR Diet: Foods to eat and avoid

Posted by alan bruce @alanbruce, May 6, 2020

What foods to avoid and what food to focus on when on PMR

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@pmrsuzie

Hmmmm. I am not sure what I said here that led you to think I am concentrating on the wrong foods. I recently bought 2 anti-inflammation diet magazines to help me with meal planning choices. Nonfat yogurt, low fat- low sodium cheese and D3 were all recommendstions by my endocrinologist. I tapered down to 1 mg prednisone when I developed some kind of inflammatory arthritis - synovitis - in my hands. The radiologist has implied OA, cppd arthropathy. Diet is not a factor in the development of cppd. It happens.
I am especially liking the photos in one of the magazines and it has interesting, informative articles. I enjoy eating, I like to cook and I like my food to look appetizing. Eating Well
suzanne
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I think it's interesting to note that Canada dropped dairy as a food group and lumped it into the protein group. Most of the world does not consume dairy and those countries have less osteoporosis than the countries that consume it. The only reason that it is still a food group in our country is due to the dairy industry lobby's influence. Cow's milk is best for calves, not humans, in my opinion and the opinion of most nutritionists. It is high in calories and lacks many nutrients.

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I bought oat milk for my cereal. Whilst rereading the label this morning I see it has 1 gram protein. My skim milk had 9 grams. I went searching to compare skim milk vs oat milk and found this: "One of the biggest and most important differences between oat milk's nutrition and dairy milk is the nutrient profile. Oat milk provides fewer nutrients than dairy milk, and most of the nutrients it provides are fortified. That means they're added during manufacturing, as opposed to occurring naturally". I understand there are different opinions about dairy vs plant based products. I try to be open minded about what I read. I don't think 'dairy' is contributing to my individual pmr/arthritic flare. Everyone's situation is unique. I'm going back to skim milk and save $3. I added blueberries to my whole grain cereal and banana this morning. That's a start to improving my diet.
suzanne

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@pmrsuzie

Diet dilemma. Eat this, don't eat that. I have avoided supplements other than vitamin D3 and Areds 2 for AMD which is another dilemma. My ophthamologist suggested eye vitamins, the retina specialist thinks they would not really help my situation. My opinion is that 2 of those capsules is such a mega mega dose it could be harmful. I'm afraid to take it, afraid not to take it so I take just one capsule every day.
I assumed I was predisposed to pmr. Life happens. I was down to 1 mg prednisone, thought pmr was gone, my hands swelled, now have synovitis, some sort of inflammatory arthritis. Is it something I was eating?? Or me being me?? Is what seems to be a healthy diet not really healthy?? I was thinking moderation was a good path but which path to follow. When you have multiple medical problems there are too many forks in the road. Eat leafy greens, don't eat leafy greens, eat potatoes, tomatoes, don't eat them. What triggers autoimmune response besides diet?
Eat avocados. I bought one only to read I could be allergic to avocado because I have a latex allergy. So I didn't want to chance it.
For now I'm avoiding processed foods, fast foods, red meat, sugary foods, fatty foods and salt. Most everything else in moderation, eating fresh fruits and vegetabkes.
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Suzanne, I am following that path as well. No red meat, no white bread, no deli meats, and little to no sugar and salt. I eat salmon a lot and take D3, B12, and fish oil. I am on 3mgs of pred daily. STRESS really works on my PMR and my body in general. Can't seem to taper currently.

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@pmrsuzie

I bought oat milk for my cereal. Whilst rereading the label this morning I see it has 1 gram protein. My skim milk had 9 grams. I went searching to compare skim milk vs oat milk and found this: "One of the biggest and most important differences between oat milk's nutrition and dairy milk is the nutrient profile. Oat milk provides fewer nutrients than dairy milk, and most of the nutrients it provides are fortified. That means they're added during manufacturing, as opposed to occurring naturally". I understand there are different opinions about dairy vs plant based products. I try to be open minded about what I read. I don't think 'dairy' is contributing to my individual pmr/arthritic flare. Everyone's situation is unique. I'm going back to skim milk and save $3. I added blueberries to my whole grain cereal and banana this morning. That's a start to improving my diet.
suzanne

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I'm replying to myself. Had my bloodwork today and it was all good except for my total protein which is now slightly outside the normal range on the low side. Juggling diets is not easy. I bought my skim milk today to add that protein I've been missing by drinking the oat milk. Sure glad I reread that label yesterday. I've been concentrating on fat, sugar and sodium. Didn't think about the protein.

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@pmrsuzie

I'm replying to myself. Had my bloodwork today and it was all good except for my total protein which is now slightly outside the normal range on the low side. Juggling diets is not easy. I bought my skim milk today to add that protein I've been missing by drinking the oat milk. Sure glad I reread that label yesterday. I've been concentrating on fat, sugar and sodium. Didn't think about the protein.

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I think it's interesting to note that vegans will often times have higher blood protein levels than meat eaters...https://nutritionfacts.org/video/vegan-protein-status/#:~:text=Despite%2020%25%20less%20protein%20in,bodies%20of%20those%20eating%20vegan.
Apparently, low protein levels are more indicative of inflammation in your body, which PMR is all about. Most health professionals agree that we Americans eat far too much protein, especially from animal sources. And we have the most chronic illness in the world, despite spending a lot more money on healthcare!!! Bottom line is that we need to take charge of our own health and not depend on doctors to find a "cure" for our ailments. Those "cures" are usually medications that come with multiple side effects.

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@janiceem

I think it's interesting to note that vegans will often times have higher blood protein levels than meat eaters...https://nutritionfacts.org/video/vegan-protein-status/#:~:text=Despite%2020%25%20less%20protein%20in,bodies%20of%20those%20eating%20vegan.
Apparently, low protein levels are more indicative of inflammation in your body, which PMR is all about. Most health professionals agree that we Americans eat far too much protein, especially from animal sources. And we have the most chronic illness in the world, despite spending a lot more money on healthcare!!! Bottom line is that we need to take charge of our own health and not depend on doctors to find a "cure" for our ailments. Those "cures" are usually medications that come with multiple side effects.

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I am on the same diet and started studying anti inflammatory eating patterns when my PMR was active.
Now with psoriatic arthritis I know how I feel if I veer
off course. Traditional medicine is way behind in dietary
education. Processed foods and sugary fast foods are
what’s ailing us. I do miss bourbon!

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@alanbruce

John, I eat lots of fruit especially berries, vegetables and fish. I limit carbs and meats. I rarely eat fast food and fried foods. At times I eat too many sweets, my wife's fault. I walk nearly every day which I think is a great help.

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Fruit triggers my pmr pain.

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@marid57

Fruit triggers my pmr pain.

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I have wondered about that. Love grapefruit and oranges.

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My topic this post is more related to weight gain. In the beginning I was concerned about prednisone and gaining weight. I started weighing myself every morning with the intent to stay within a couple lbs of that weight. Getting weighed every morning helps me focus on how much and what I can eat. Days when I'm under the desirable number I can splurge a little. I started using a smaller plate at dinner forcing smaller portions and I take smaller bites. I have always enjoyed sitting down to a nice dinner. We rarely go out to eat especially since the pandemic. We have some kind of salad at dinner even if it's just cut up tomatoes or cucumbers or celery sticks or tossed salad. For the celery I mix whipped cream cheese wth fresh homegrown chives and use it sparingly. If I'm having tossed salad, I use a dinner plate and the salad takes up half the plate. I started steaming
fresh vegetables and we have fruit at every meal. I only recently started buying cherries. I froze 2 bags today. In the evening I've been having a small dish of light ice cream with cherries and a handful of walnuts. I've been trying to incorporate more anti-inflammatory foods. Also trying not to focus not on what I can't eat anymore but what I CAN eat. It helps.
suzanne

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Anybody cooking fennel? I buy it every so often. I slice the bulb into pieces, slice carrots on the bias so the slices are elongated, cook them in my steamer pot. Don't overcook, drain the water, dump the carrots and fennel back in the pot, add a little olive oil and a little brown sugar. Its not an everyday vegetable, nice for a change, tasty and very nutritious. Sometimes the bulbs still have the fronds attached (esp if buying at a farmer's market) which are attractive in vases.
suzanne

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