Depression and Anxiety at an older age

Posted by pjss48 @pjss48, Sep 14, 2018

I am a 70 year old woman who has had depression and anxiety for a long time. It got worse 3 years ago when my husband lost one of his jobs. I panicked and my anxiety increased. I was afraid to do things. like driving. I have arthritis pretty bad and foot problems. I’m a Christian and my faith has helped me. My husband was a pastor and our church closed 3 months ago. We’ve had continual stress. Sometimes I don’t know what to do with myself during the day. I’ve gotten help from several doctors, including a psychiatrist. I also have IBS. I am better. I’m taking trazadone duloxetine, remeron and xanax. Also on osteo biflex, probiotic , bentyl and celebrex. I want to get on Sam e but it may interact with one of my meds. Thanks for listening.

@parus

@gingerw It is interesting and amusing how we condition ourselves. Chuckling to myself.

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Thinking of you, @parus. How are you doing?

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@stsopoci

Sometimes I find myself being very confrontational with anyone around me, feeling like hitting them with a baseball bat or something. This moment setups an alarm to me like that dark moment I have at times ….I have to talk with my wife or sister about what I'm feeling. I will not talk to anyone else until this feeling passes. My doctor (GP) knows about these episodes and wants me to report the times and increases of these. I'm on Lexapro 20 mg so I can't take more but I can supplement with propranolol 40-60-80 mg if needed. I believe my childhood experiences have not been fully talked through with a male psychiatrist and I know that I need to challenge myself by seeing one. I tried several years ago to see one…. I had nightmares about killing him after one visit. I guess it's time to try again.

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@stsopoci Good for you for recognizing these episodes. It must be offputting to experience these. Understanding that you need to suss things out with a psychiatrist is also a big concession, and I hope you take your own challenge and look for someone to help you. Other than talking to your wife or sister, do you do deep breathing exercises to relax, or another method to get through it? How long does the feeling last?
Ginger

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@gingerw

@stsopoci Good for you for recognizing these episodes. It must be offputting to experience these. Understanding that you need to suss things out with a psychiatrist is also a big concession, and I hope you take your own challenge and look for someone to help you. Other than talking to your wife or sister, do you do deep breathing exercises to relax, or another method to get through it? How long does the feeling last?
Ginger

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When my deep valley feelings occur they last all day, and night and gradually go away as the sun comes out. I exercise and play my instruments (trombone. piano, Clavinova, etc.. I like yoga and reading

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@ailean55

Abused as a teen. A family member abandoned us 10 years ago.Lyme disease then fibro. Just found out three cardiac arteries are severly calcified. Talk about depression? Yep. If it wasn't for God and my hubby I would give up.

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@ailean55 , me too. My hubby has not always understood my situation. Therefore, he was not always able to provide the support that I needed at the time.

But I have learned, in hindsight, that I was not always the easiest person to understood. Neither was I the best communicator of what was needed for survival, on my part. Like some of the others on here have expressed, I too was abandoned by those I had grown up thinking were my family and best friends.

Having recovered from all that I choose to spend whatever time I have left on this planet with the ones who love me back. Unconditionally. I have done what I can to improve my health and get at the root causes of conditions that plagued me most of my life.

I am happier now than II ever have been. Genetic testing may not be everyones cup of tea. But for me, it has been an answer to prayer. I hope everyone gets to feeling better and gets everything they need for a content life. There is room at the table here for all of us

Love and light, my beautiful warriors.

Mamacita Jane

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I am 78 and going thru anxiety and withdrawal. Was in the hospital in mental health. Put on remeron 7.5 and now , trintellix also another anti a drug to take every four hours . Withdrawal from opioids , not easy. Have family. Hard to focus. And drive. Had illnesses and pain and was put on meds and now hard to get off. I am home alone. Have family I can call. Not many close friends. Always been very independent. I am trying to live in the present

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I take Sam e and duloxetine with no interaction but I note you take other meds also. I am 78 and started with anxiety and depression 2 yrs ago when I started having a lot of health issues. The duloxetine has helped me a lot with the depression for the anxiety I take tranxene as needed. My integrative doctor put me on a supplement called serosyn which has a lot of vitamin b's and it really helps. I am also a Christian, a leader of a widows group where I have a lot of support and comfort

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@iplaybunco1970

I take Sam e and duloxetine with no interaction but I note you take other meds also. I am 78 and started with anxiety and depression 2 yrs ago when I started having a lot of health issues. The duloxetine has helped me a lot with the depression for the anxiety I take tranxene as needed. My integrative doctor put me on a supplement called serosyn which has a lot of vitamin b's and it really helps. I am also a Christian, a leader of a widows group where I have a lot of support and comfort

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Hi, @iplaybunco1970 – welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. Since you mentioned you take duloxetine (Cymbalta) and clorazepate (Tranxene), you may be interested in:

Mayo Clinic information on clorazepate (Tranxene) https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/clorazepate-oral-route/description/drg-20072306

Mayo Clinic information on duloxetine (Cymbalta) https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/duloxetine-oral-route/description/drg-20067247

Connect thread on duloxetine https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cymbalta-2/

Have you experienced any side effects with these medications?

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@lisalucier

Hi, @iplaybunco1970 – welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. Since you mentioned you take duloxetine (Cymbalta) and clorazepate (Tranxene), you may be interested in:

Mayo Clinic information on clorazepate (Tranxene) https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/clorazepate-oral-route/description/drg-20072306

Mayo Clinic information on duloxetine (Cymbalta) https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/duloxetine-oral-route/description/drg-20067247

Connect thread on duloxetine https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cymbalta-2/

Have you experienced any side effects with these medications?

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I experienced nausea on duloxetine when I first started taking it. I had to take Zofran along with the duloxetine for approximately a month. Now I am fine with no side effects and it has helped me tremendously. I take a low dosage of Tranxene with no side effects

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@rae456

I am 78 and going thru anxiety and withdrawal. Was in the hospital in mental health. Put on remeron 7.5 and now , trintellix also another anti a drug to take every four hours . Withdrawal from opioids , not easy. Have family. Hard to focus. And drive. Had illnesses and pain and was put on meds and now hard to get off. I am home alone. Have family I can call. Not many close friends. Always been very independent. I am trying to live in the present

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How are you doing, @rae456? How are your anxiety and the withdrawal process going?

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@rae456

I am 78 and going thru anxiety and withdrawal. Was in the hospital in mental health. Put on remeron 7.5 and now , trintellix also another anti a drug to take every four hours . Withdrawal from opioids , not easy. Have family. Hard to focus. And drive. Had illnesses and pain and was put on meds and now hard to get off. I am home alone. Have family I can call. Not many close friends. Always been very independent. I am trying to live in the present

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I am also 78 and was a career lady and very independent in excellent health and traveling all over the world until 2 years ago and suddenly became very ill. Doctors were never able to find out exactly what happened but think I had an autoimmune attack or a virus that killed the nerves in my left vestibular and nerve damage in my legs. I went from teaching dance lessons to a wheel chair and became very anxious and depressed, concerned about losing my independence and afraid of being alone. I have had a lot of physical therapy, counseling, and taking duloxetine and transxene which has helped. I have worked hard at building a network of friends that has really helped me a lot. I am president of a widows group and we now have 55 members. I reach out daily to one of them and since I can now drive and walk with a cane, I help someone else whenever I can and in return it helps me feel better. I find that if I stay home alone for any length of time that the anxiety and depression rears its ugly head. I encourage you to find friends through your church or community as that has literally saved me.

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Being unable to get the PCP to listen has me so down and discouraged. The doctors have no choice is how I see it. Herding everyone around like cattle. slave to their laptops. Must be some kind of plot to rid society of useless people. Succumb to old age and at least maintain some semblance of dignity. Yes, depression is back in full force.

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Hi Parus: You and I probably the only TWO who think this way!!! Every time I mentioned that life after 75 is going down hill. I'm 80 now, I don't know what parts of my body will give me problems the next minutes! I'm anxious and depress about my failing health due to old age! Can't talk to any one about the subject of ending your life painlessly before the real pain arrives. They all say you are depressed, you have so much to live for, take depression drugs, see a psychiatrist, think about your kids, everyone is in the same boat, do volunteer works, etc… What's so wrong if you have enough of this LIFE vacation and want to go HOME!
Hope I don't make you more depress. I was just glad that I know you think the same way!

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@parus

Being unable to get the PCP to listen has me so down and discouraged. The doctors have no choice is how I see it. Herding everyone around like cattle. slave to their laptops. Must be some kind of plot to rid society of useless people. Succumb to old age and at least maintain some semblance of dignity. Yes, depression is back in full force.

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@parus Have you approached your dr and tell him/her that you don't feel you're being listened to? I know you had mentioned that the nurses during your treatments have been great. What is their opinion how to handle not being listened to? Perhaps they could give you some insight? I have had times like that, too, and spoke frankly to the dr about it. They [yep, done it more than once!] were not happy to have me bring it up, and a few of them I had to change because they didn't want to change. Right now, because I moved, I have a brand new team. My primary is actually a Family Nurse Practitioner, and both times in her office she has been very accommodating, and listening to my concerns/issues. It is interesting that in this area, they have an assistant who does laptop entries while dr is paying attention to me, then there is a final check of the computer by dr before appt is finished. Never had that before, and it lets dr focus on my case. I hope you can get some direction, soon.
Ginger

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@gingerw

@parus Have you approached your dr and tell him/her that you don't feel you're being listened to? I know you had mentioned that the nurses during your treatments have been great. What is their opinion how to handle not being listened to? Perhaps they could give you some insight? I have had times like that, too, and spoke frankly to the dr about it. They [yep, done it more than once!] were not happy to have me bring it up, and a few of them I had to change because they didn't want to change. Right now, because I moved, I have a brand new team. My primary is actually a Family Nurse Practitioner, and both times in her office she has been very accommodating, and listening to my concerns/issues. It is interesting that in this area, they have an assistant who does laptop entries while dr is paying attention to me, then there is a final check of the computer by dr before appt is finished. Never had that before, and it lets dr focus on my case. I hope you can get some direction, soon.
Ginger

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@gingerw The PCP does not even give me a chance to speak. Where I am now the is an 1 LPN and the rest are CMA's who know just enough to say things that do more harm. I prefer a NP. The current PCP has one. I asked to see her and was denied. Seems I am back to being a ping pong ball in the medical field. PCP's are hard to come by so I know I cannot be pushy with the one I now have as she will just fire me. Always at the mercy of the doctors. I was hopeful at first because she is internal medicine. Seems all I do is gripe about doctors. My pain specialist is kind and willing to listen and the RN with urology was helpful. A PA gives me the results of lab work. No compassion. Just the cold, hard facts. I evidently expect too much.

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@parus

@gingerw The PCP does not even give me a chance to speak. Where I am now the is an 1 LPN and the rest are CMA's who know just enough to say things that do more harm. I prefer a NP. The current PCP has one. I asked to see her and was denied. Seems I am back to being a ping pong ball in the medical field. PCP's are hard to come by so I know I cannot be pushy with the one I now have as she will just fire me. Always at the mercy of the doctors. I was hopeful at first because she is internal medicine. Seems all I do is gripe about doctors. My pain specialist is kind and willing to listen and the RN with urology was helpful. A PA gives me the results of lab work. No compassion. Just the cold, hard facts. I evidently expect too much.

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@parus . Don't judge all nurses by the attitude of one or two that really don't know anything they are just there for the paycheck . There are a lot of great and caring compassionate nurses ,all degrees,. Be your own advocate don't let the Dr,s just put you off. Stand your ground with them . You know your own body better then anyone else they wont fire you but YOU can fire them

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