Comparison of Spinal Cord Stimulators from Boston Sci., Nevro

Posted by elsa @elsa, Jul 26, 2020

I've lived with severe chronic pain in my legs and lumbar spine for the past ten years. Was on opiates for 8 years until I attended & graduated from Mayo's 3-week Pain Rehab Program in 2018. That program helped immensely and I got off 5 meds I used to take, including morphine and hydrocodone. Unfortunately, in the last year my spine health has worsened. I now have a toxic mix of scar tissue (from a dural tear during a microdiscectomy), stenosis at multiple levels, bulging discs and scoliosis. I am now scheduled to do a trial of Boston Scientific's "Wave Writer" SCS on August 10, 2020. Unfortunately my doctor did not guide me in the selection of this manufacturer/model. I did my own research. I considered doing trials of Nevro's HF-10 and Boston Scientific's Wave Writer. Finally decided on the Wave Writer.
I'm posting here to ask for people's knowledge of and/or experience with these two SCS's. Please reply if you can share any information. Thanks!

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Profile picture for glenjunderwood @glenjunderwood

My name is Glen and i have had the Nevro HF10 spinal stimulator implanted since Sept 1, 2021 and the company rep hasn't been able to dial it in on my terrible lower back pain yet. I have complete confidence in this unit because the temporary one that they inserted worked unbelievably well. It's been 6 months and counting with no relief thus far. I'm hoping to reach out and hear from anyone out there about their experiences with this Nevro unit. Please help if you can! Thank You!

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Again. Thanks for logging in. You may have motivated me to sign up to join the YMCA. I looked at doing that at the beginning of the year but the walk the indoor pool even from the handicapped parking spaces left me exhausted before I even got to locker room much less the pool. I was in Florida for two weeks in the middle of September and really did enjoy just being in the pool and the ocean. Took a lot of pressure off my joints.

Hope your shoulder situation improves.

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Profile picture for sue1955 @sue1955

I have a Nevro HF10 SCS implanted 7 months ago. I have the same situation as glenjunderwood. I too had pain I have contacted my rep at Nevro for assistance and was getting the run around or it taking days for a call back. I went to pain management, and they looked at me like I was crazy. I have been shocked in my leg while in bed and two days later shocked in the battery implant. I was in severe pain and didn't know where to turn. Finally went back to my pain management doctor, because no help from Nevro. The doctor had me get x-rays of my entire spine and contacted Nevro rep to come and see me at his office. Found out 7 months later after multiple phone calls to Nevo and pain management visits, that my x-rays were mislabeled when the device was placed, and the stimulator leads shifted. So now they have created programs that they hope work, they have not worked so far. The programs that we tried for the 7 months, were set up based on the x-ray of placement of my leads. None of them worked because of mislabeling of the vertebrae on the x-ray. The pain following the two shocks has been unbearable, but no one is helping me to relieve the pain. I do not take pain medication other than Tylenol. My trial SCS worked fantastically and was back to work two days after the procedure. I am a nurse and I have not been able to work since February 14, 2023, due to pain, unsteady gait, and exhaustion. If anyone else has had a similar issue with this stimulator, please let me know.

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Had the same problem with electrical type shocking that lasted for about five minutes. I’ve had X-rays to see if the leads had shifted but they hadn’t. Nevro is useless when it comes to patient after care, no follow through at all. I’m currently on Oxy 15mg 2x/day which takes the excruciating pain to a bearable pain but still can’t walk through the entire grocery store or walk 1/2 mile without the pain getting worse. Currently suffer with non-stop groin pain on left side (the implant was installed for right side pain) and it’s nonstop lower back pain 24/7. There has to be a better way of life than this. I’ve suffered with legs giving way due to electrical type shooting pains that stem from the lower back, run through the groin and down the front of my legs making my legs buckle and ultimately falling.
My heart goes out to you as I know exactly what you are going through. I haven’t found a solution yet and my unit is at one on the ladder and one on the program, every other programs make the pain 10 fold.
All I can suggest is to keep on calling your device’s rep to try and get some answers. Did they redo the surgery to place the leads in the correct place?

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Had the same problem with electrical type shocking that lasted for about five minutes. I’ve had X-rays to see if the leads had shifted but they hadn’t. Nevro is useless when it comes to patient after care, no follow through at all. I’m currently on Oxy 15mg 2x/day which takes the excruciating pain to a bearable pain but still can’t walk through the entire grocery store or walk 1/2 mile without the pain getting worse. Currently suffer with non-stop groin pain on left side (the implant was installed for right side pain) and it’s nonstop lower back pain 24/7. There has to be a better way of life than this. I’ve suffered with legs giving way due to electrical type shooting pains that stem from the lower back, run through the groin and down the front of my legs making my legs buckle and ultimately falling.
My heart goes out to you as I know exactly what you are going through. I haven’t found a solution yet and my unit is at one on the ladder and one on the program, every other programs make the pain 10 fold.
All I can suggest is to keep on calling your device’s rep to try and get some answers. Did they redo the surgery to place the leads in the correct place?

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Thursday 10/26/2023. I met with Corporate Nevro Rep, Preston Nevro Rep
and another Nevro Rep at the office of pain management. I was told by the Dr that after reviewing the x-rays again (that were done a month ago). The spinal Cord Stimulator paddle was placed too high and that is why I have not been getting relief for the past 8 months. He was sending a referral to a new surgeon for revision of the placement. The doctor said the surgeon placed it too high. I am waiting to hear from the new surgeon. My stimulator is shut off now and my pain is unbearable. Thank you for your kind words and I hope you get some relief.

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My name is Glen and i have had the Nevro HF10 spinal stimulator implanted since Sept 1, 2021 and the company rep hasn't been able to dial it in on my terrible lower back pain yet. I have complete confidence in this unit because the temporary one that they inserted worked unbelievably well. It's been 6 months and counting with no relief thus far. I'm hoping to reach out and hear from anyone out there about their experiences with this Nevro unit. Please help if you can! Thank You!

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Just as your experience. Had very good results from the temporary Boston Scientific stimulator, but did not expereience even close to the same results after the installation of the permanent device. I have since quit even charging the device.

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Profile picture for sue1955 @sue1955

Thursday 10/26/2023. I met with Corporate Nevro Rep, Preston Nevro Rep
and another Nevro Rep at the office of pain management. I was told by the Dr that after reviewing the x-rays again (that were done a month ago). The spinal Cord Stimulator paddle was placed too high and that is why I have not been getting relief for the past 8 months. He was sending a referral to a new surgeon for revision of the placement. The doctor said the surgeon placed it too high. I am waiting to hear from the new surgeon. My stimulator is shut off now and my pain is unbearable. Thank you for your kind words and I hope you get some relief.

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During these SCS implant surgeries, there is a rep in the OR guiding the surgeon in placement of the paddle/leads. If your paddle was placed incorrectly, that's on the rep. Unless there was no rep present at the surgery.

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Profile picture for glenjunderwood @glenjunderwood

My name is Glen and i have had the Nevro HF10 spinal stimulator implanted since Sept 1, 2021 and the company rep hasn't been able to dial it in on my terrible lower back pain yet. I have complete confidence in this unit because the temporary one that they inserted worked unbelievably well. It's been 6 months and counting with no relief thus far. I'm hoping to reach out and hear from anyone out there about their experiences with this Nevro unit. Please help if you can! Thank You!

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Thinking of getting my husband a stimulator. But I am hearing so much of what your folks are saying that the trial was successful, but went and planted it did not work. It may not happen for him either because he had has multiple back surgeries.

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Profile picture for glenjunderwood @glenjunderwood

My name is Glen and i have had the Nevro HF10 spinal stimulator implanted since Sept 1, 2021 and the company rep hasn't been able to dial it in on my terrible lower back pain yet. I have complete confidence in this unit because the temporary one that they inserted worked unbelievably well. It's been 6 months and counting with no relief thus far. I'm hoping to reach out and hear from anyone out there about their experiences with this Nevro unit. Please help if you can! Thank You!

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I had the trial, which went very well. The Medtronics rep was with us every step of the way. I wore the temporary battery taped to my back for about 3 days. The relief was quite noticeable. I went ahead with the permanent implant. Again, the Medtronics rep was in the OR helping the neurosurgeon get proper placement of the paddle. I will say that the pain mitigation was not as good as it was with the trial, but still fairly good. Between the SCS and my meds, I was living an almost normal life. Then it just stopped working. Period. Seems that several of the electrodes on the paddle had burned out. Anyway, I got about 3 years of decent relief, do that's a good thing.

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Profile picture for glenjunderwood @glenjunderwood

My name is Glen and i have had the Nevro HF10 spinal stimulator implanted since Sept 1, 2021 and the company rep hasn't been able to dial it in on my terrible lower back pain yet. I have complete confidence in this unit because the temporary one that they inserted worked unbelievably well. It's been 6 months and counting with no relief thus far. I'm hoping to reach out and hear from anyone out there about their experiences with this Nevro unit. Please help if you can! Thank You!

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Hi Glen. I had a Boston Scientific stimulator implanted 2 years ago and it worked fairly well. I had severe burning skin in my lower back due to central pain syndrome. I needed frequent adjustments and the rep was wonderful. After a year it stopped working no matter what the rep did so I had it removed this past August. I still have the burning all over my torso now (I've had several nerve blocks that haven't helped) but the pain isn't much worse than it was with the stimulator.

Good luck and I hope your rep can hit the right spots so you can get relief.

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Profile picture for glenjunderwood @glenjunderwood

My name is Glen and i have had the Nevro HF10 spinal stimulator implanted since Sept 1, 2021 and the company rep hasn't been able to dial it in on my terrible lower back pain yet. I have complete confidence in this unit because the temporary one that they inserted worked unbelievably well. It's been 6 months and counting with no relief thus far. I'm hoping to reach out and hear from anyone out there about their experiences with this Nevro unit. Please help if you can! Thank You!

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If they haven't been able to get relief after six months of adjustments, it's not likely that you will get any relief from the stimulator. Sorry. Hope I'm wrong, but that's just the reality. Did you get relief from the trial? If so, you should be getting at least some pain relief from the implant.

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Just as your experience. Had very good results from the temporary Boston Scientific stimulator, but did not expereience even close to the same results after the installation of the permanent device. I have since quit even charging the device.

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Just curious if the Boston Scientific reps were helpful at all in making adjustments to your programs?
My trial went well in beating the constant sciatica pain so I’m set to get my implant on 11/28.
Any input would be appreciated.

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