CBD oil for pain

Posted by timfitz @timfitz, Jul 19, 2016

After trying opiates, and lyrica, and mostly just suffering I tried sublingual CBD which is from the marijuana plant, but has no THC in it, you don’t get high. It was very very effective. Not only did it reduce my pain at least 75%, it has a calming effect on the anxiety produced in those of us with chronic pain by the fact we have it. I do recommend it…. Be sure it is from a reliable source. You don’t need to smoke anything or get high.

I’m glad it worked for you. I tried all forms of it and it did absolutely nothing to ease anxiety or pain.

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I have chronic pain with spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia – diagnoses made 25 years ago at Scripps Clinic in La Jolla , CA. I have just come across information on CBD ,however, the information is very conflicting from one website to another; I would like to know where to get accurate information and if it is recommended what manufacturers are reliable sources .

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@myquest

I have chronic pain with spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia – diagnoses made 25 years ago at Scripps Clinic in La Jolla , CA. I have just come across information on CBD ,however, the information is very conflicting from one website to another; I would like to know where to get accurate information and if it is recommended what manufacturers are reliable sources .

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It is well explained in the pinned posts in the FB pages “CBD Oil Users Group” and CBD Oil and Fibromyalgia.” I am so sorry I hadn’t learned about it years ago.

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@myquest

I have chronic pain with spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia – diagnoses made 25 years ago at Scripps Clinic in La Jolla , CA. I have just come across information on CBD ,however, the information is very conflicting from one website to another; I would like to know where to get accurate information and if it is recommended what manufacturers are reliable sources .

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Welcome to Connect, @myquest. While we wait for fellow Connect members to share their insights, I thought you might wish to read these journal studies about CBD and pain management:
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317221.php
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5645627/

I’d also like to tag Mentors @jimhd @johnbishop; would you have more information for @myquest?

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@myquest

I have chronic pain with spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia – diagnoses made 25 years ago at Scripps Clinic in La Jolla , CA. I have just come across information on CBD ,however, the information is very conflicting from one website to another; I would like to know where to get accurate information and if it is recommended what manufacturers are reliable sources .

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Hello @myquest, I would like to add my welcome to Connect along with @kanaazpereira and other Connect members. I have not used CBD oil or other forms for my small fiber peripheral neuropathy since I only have the numbness and don’t have any pain associated with it. I’ve listened to a speaker at the Minnesota Neuropathy Association talk about CBD used for chronic pain management but it’s not readily available here in Minnesota. You have to get on the states approved list and then work with your doctor and a compounding pharmacist to get it.

I would like to tag another member who I think uses CBD and may know reliable sources in California – @artscaping are you able to provide any information on CBD use?

@myquest have you discussed the use of CBD with your doctors or chronic pain management doctor? They should be able to provide some reliable sources. Another good source of information when doing your own research is Google Scholar (https://scholar.google.com/). You can find links to research papers, articles and more and sort the links by date for the latest ones. Here is an example of using it to search for “cbd oil for pain”:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2017&q=cbd+oil+for+pain&hl=en&as_sdt=0,24
John

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CBD is legal in all states, and you don’t need a prescription or medical-marijuana card to purchase it. It’s beneficial for innumerous issues, not just pain.

On Facebook, the CBD Oil Users Group is rife with information. It isn’t just opinions; you’ll find a multitude of links to studies, brands to stay away from, brands that are tried-and-true, third-party lab results, etc. If you aren’t on FB, this group is the only reason you need to give it a go.

I take it and it is a silver bullet—yes, there is such a thing!

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@jenapower

If you google foods that give false positives there are a few things I think

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Tried to delete a repeated post and it won’t let me. Sorry for the wasted post

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Hello @johnbishop and others, regarding CBD oil….what I have is 2 years of experience with different product forms and options that qualify as medical marijuana and require a license to purchase. My understanding at this point is that CBD oil to which many Connect members are referring is from the family cannabis but within that family is predominantly from the hemp plant not the marijuana plant. I was told early on that for effective pain relief, the product needs to contain both CBD and some amount of THC because the THC is the agent that reacts with the CBD to make the product do its work, to kick it into gear, if you will. My one trial with pure CBD was not effective for my form of SFN (small fiber neuropathy) and CMPS (the myofascial stuff). I do realize that there is a lot of research activity going on around the world to find better ways to treat chronic pain from known natural elements as opposed to opioids. I worry though when I read self promoting “research” articles that make claims about curing some pretty heavy duty conditions. For me, marijuana is for pain amelioration and tolerance only. I know that you can not overdose on medical marijuana….and even if you went to the emergency room because you were anxious, they would just give you a valium and tell you to sleep it off. I also have not had any addictive feelings…no cravings, no withdrawal symptoms even when I temporarily ran out of product. What is important is to have a guide to help you make good choices, especially as more and more product options are being introduced every day. Vape pens are excellent delivery systems for a bit of speedy relief in 5 or so minutes but one “dose” typically doesn’t last very long, i.e. 15 minutes. Edibles require more dosage caution and for me take about 30 minutes to take effect but last for several hours. The only absolute no-nos. Never medicate with marijuana product on an empty tummy……and never mix it with alcohol. And so I forgo my Jack Daniels single barrel select. Aaaaahhhhh!
P.S. For those of us who not only fight pain but also the depression that seems to accompany our condition(s), a little bit of THC will only serve to lift that cloud of depression while the product is active. For me, that’s a very nice way to start the day.

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@artscaping

Hello @johnbishop and others, regarding CBD oil….what I have is 2 years of experience with different product forms and options that qualify as medical marijuana and require a license to purchase. My understanding at this point is that CBD oil to which many Connect members are referring is from the family cannabis but within that family is predominantly from the hemp plant not the marijuana plant. I was told early on that for effective pain relief, the product needs to contain both CBD and some amount of THC because the THC is the agent that reacts with the CBD to make the product do its work, to kick it into gear, if you will. My one trial with pure CBD was not effective for my form of SFN (small fiber neuropathy) and CMPS (the myofascial stuff). I do realize that there is a lot of research activity going on around the world to find better ways to treat chronic pain from known natural elements as opposed to opioids. I worry though when I read self promoting “research” articles that make claims about curing some pretty heavy duty conditions. For me, marijuana is for pain amelioration and tolerance only. I know that you can not overdose on medical marijuana….and even if you went to the emergency room because you were anxious, they would just give you a valium and tell you to sleep it off. I also have not had any addictive feelings…no cravings, no withdrawal symptoms even when I temporarily ran out of product. What is important is to have a guide to help you make good choices, especially as more and more product options are being introduced every day. Vape pens are excellent delivery systems for a bit of speedy relief in 5 or so minutes but one “dose” typically doesn’t last very long, i.e. 15 minutes. Edibles require more dosage caution and for me take about 30 minutes to take effect but last for several hours. The only absolute no-nos. Never medicate with marijuana product on an empty tummy……and never mix it with alcohol. And so I forgo my Jack Daniels single barrel select. Aaaaahhhhh!
P.S. For those of us who not only fight pain but also the depression that seems to accompany our condition(s), a little bit of THC will only serve to lift that cloud of depression while the product is active. For me, that’s a very nice way to start the day.

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Some people need full-spectrum CBD oil to get relief (still less than .3% THC), others get relief from just the isolate. I get unimaginable relief from just the isolate.

Depending on which terpenes are in the product, you can get relief from depression, insomnia, anxiety, fatigue, etc., etc., etc.

You’ll find links to articles published in peer-reviewed scientific journals on the FB pages I mentioned; you’ll hear present-day scientists and physicians discuss both mj and CBD oil on the docuseries you’ll find here (http://thesacredplant.ontraport.com/c/s/qIX/sucmy/s/Z/6PgC/6R3wbB/UEjCMdFrC/P/0); and and this little documentary will likely be very enlightening (https://youtu.be/E96vow07OJc).

Hope this helps!

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@myquest

I have chronic pain with spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia – diagnoses made 25 years ago at Scripps Clinic in La Jolla , CA. I have just come across information on CBD ,however, the information is very conflicting from one website to another; I would like to know where to get accurate information and if it is recommended what manufacturers are reliable sources .

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Hello @myquest,

I would like to add my welcome to Kanaaz, John and @gal_in_kalamazoo‘s. You mentioned spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia. I think you may find the following discussions relevant as well. I recommend clicking on the links below and introducing yourself to the members in these discussions who undoubtedly will understand what you are going through:

– Fibromyalgia pain, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/fibromyalgia-pain-28e002/
– Laser treatment for spinal stenosis? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/laser-treatment-for-spinal-stenosis/

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Hi all,
I wanted to say thanks to all who have contributed to this board. It has been very educational for me since I may be forced to go on Medical Marijuana this next month.

I’m 56, have Lyme disease which manifests itself as chronic pain all over my body, Chronic pain syndrome, Bilateral peripheral Neuropathy, “fibromyalgia”, and about 5 other named issues. I also recently had both full-knee replacements which has increased my peripheral neuropathy pain significantly.
I am on Social Security Disability, have 2 different neuro-stimulator implants, a combination of extended release and fast acting Hydromorphone totaling 48 mg daily, ER Gabapentin for my neuropathy, and a few others.

Unfortunately these only take care of say 60% of my pain and my new “open Market” medical insurance says they will not cover even 1/2 of the meds I am currently on. The cost of buying just one more ER Hydromorphone pill a day (I need 2-3 depending on our appeal) comes out to about $1000 out of pocket for the month.

So, even paying for medical marijuana out of pocket will save me thousands a month. Unfortunately I do not know if medical marijuana will even work or help me. I did try a large dose of OTC CBD oil with no relief. Fortunately my Pain Management Doctor does prescribe medical marijuana.

One more surprise is that since I will have been on SSDI for 2 years this summer I was notified that I will be enrolled in Medicare in June, so any part of my deductible/max out of pocket ($6,300) will be for nothing once they switch me over midyear.

Thanks again for the discussion and I will let ou know if I switch and what the results are.

Carl

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Lyme disease is a horrid malady. You have my empathy.

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