CBD oil for pain

Posted by timfitz @timfitz, Jul 19, 2016

After trying opiates, and lyrica, and mostly just suffering I tried sublingual CBD which is from the marijuana plant, but has no THC in it, you don’t get high. It was very very effective. Not only did it reduce my pain at least 75%, it has a calming effect on the anxiety produced in those of us with chronic pain by the fact we have it. I do recommend it…. Be sure it is from a reliable source. You don’t need to smoke anything or get high.

@jenapower

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Hello @johnbishop and others, regarding CBD oil….what I have is 2 years of experience with different product forms and options that qualify as medical marijuana and require a license to purchase. My understanding at this point is that CBD oil to which many Connect members are referring is from the family cannabis but within that family is predominantly from the hemp plant not the marijuana plant. I was told early on that for effective pain relief, the product needs to contain both CBD and some amount of THC because the THC is the agent that reacts with the CBD to make the product do its work, to kick it into gear, if you will. My one trial with pure CBD was not effective for my form of SFN (small fiber neuropathy) and CMPS (the myofascial stuff). I do realize that there is a lot of research activity going on around the world to find better ways to treat chronic pain from known natural elements as opposed to opioids. I worry though when I read self promoting “research” articles that make claims about curing some pretty heavy duty conditions. For me, marijuana is for pain amelioration and tolerance only. I know that you can not overdose on medical marijuana….and even if you went to the emergency room because you were anxious, they would just give you a valium and tell you to sleep it off. I also have not had any addictive feelings…no cravings, no withdrawal symptoms even when I temporarily ran out of product. What is important is to have a guide to help you make good choices, especially as more and more product options are being introduced every day. Vape pens are excellent delivery systems for a bit of speedy relief in 5 or so minutes but one “dose” typically doesn’t last very long, i.e. 15 minutes. Edibles require more dosage caution and for me take about 30 minutes to take effect but last for several hours. The only absolute no-nos. Never medicate with marijuana product on an empty tummy……and never mix it with alcohol. And so I forgo my Jack Daniels single barrel select. Aaaaahhhhh!
P.S. For those of us who not only fight pain but also the depression that seems to accompany our condition(s), a little bit of THC will only serve to lift that cloud of depression while the product is active. For me, that’s a very nice way to start the day.

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@artscaping

Hello @johnbishop and others, regarding CBD oil….what I have is 2 years of experience with different product forms and options that qualify as medical marijuana and require a license to purchase. My understanding at this point is that CBD oil to which many Connect members are referring is from the family cannabis but within that family is predominantly from the hemp plant not the marijuana plant. I was told early on that for effective pain relief, the product needs to contain both CBD and some amount of THC because the THC is the agent that reacts with the CBD to make the product do its work, to kick it into gear, if you will. My one trial with pure CBD was not effective for my form of SFN (small fiber neuropathy) and CMPS (the myofascial stuff). I do realize that there is a lot of research activity going on around the world to find better ways to treat chronic pain from known natural elements as opposed to opioids. I worry though when I read self promoting “research” articles that make claims about curing some pretty heavy duty conditions. For me, marijuana is for pain amelioration and tolerance only. I know that you can not overdose on medical marijuana….and even if you went to the emergency room because you were anxious, they would just give you a valium and tell you to sleep it off. I also have not had any addictive feelings…no cravings, no withdrawal symptoms even when I temporarily ran out of product. What is important is to have a guide to help you make good choices, especially as more and more product options are being introduced every day. Vape pens are excellent delivery systems for a bit of speedy relief in 5 or so minutes but one “dose” typically doesn’t last very long, i.e. 15 minutes. Edibles require more dosage caution and for me take about 30 minutes to take effect but last for several hours. The only absolute no-nos. Never medicate with marijuana product on an empty tummy……and never mix it with alcohol. And so I forgo my Jack Daniels single barrel select. Aaaaahhhhh!
P.S. For those of us who not only fight pain but also the depression that seems to accompany our condition(s), a little bit of THC will only serve to lift that cloud of depression while the product is active. For me, that’s a very nice way to start the day.

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Some people need full-spectrum CBD oil to get relief (still less than .3% THC), others get relief from just the isolate. I get unimaginable relief from just the isolate.

Depending on which terpenes are in the product, you can get relief from depression, insomnia, anxiety, fatigue, etc., etc., etc.

You’ll find links to articles published in peer-reviewed scientific journals on the FB pages I mentioned; you’ll hear present-day scientists and physicians discuss both mj and CBD oil on the docuseries you’ll find here (http://thesacredplant.ontraport.com/c/s/qIX/sucmy/s/Z/6PgC/6R3wbB/UEjCMdFrC/P/0); and and this little documentary will likely be very enlightening (

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Hope this helps!

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@myquest

I have chronic pain with spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia – diagnoses made 25 years ago at Scripps Clinic in La Jolla , CA. I have just come across information on CBD ,however, the information is very conflicting from one website to another; I would like to know where to get accurate information and if it is recommended what manufacturers are reliable sources .

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Hello @myquest,

I would like to add my welcome to Kanaaz, John and @gal_in_kalamazoo‘s. You mentioned spinal stenosis and fibromyalgia. I think you may find the following discussions relevant as well. I recommend clicking on the links below and introducing yourself to the members in these discussions who undoubtedly will understand what you are going through:

– Fibromyalgia pain, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/fibromyalgia-pain-28e002/
– Laser treatment for spinal stenosis? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/laser-treatment-for-spinal-stenosis/

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Hi all,
I wanted to say thanks to all who have contributed to this board. It has been very educational for me since I may be forced to go on Medical Marijuana this next month.

I’m 56, have Lyme disease which manifests itself as chronic pain all over my body, Chronic pain syndrome, Bilateral peripheral Neuropathy, “fibromyalgia”, and about 5 other named issues. I also recently had both full-knee replacements which has increased my peripheral neuropathy pain significantly.
I am on Social Security Disability, have 2 different neuro-stimulator implants, a combination of extended release and fast acting Hydromorphone totaling 48 mg daily, ER Gabapentin for my neuropathy, and a few others.

Unfortunately these only take care of say 60% of my pain and my new “open Market” medical insurance says they will not cover even 1/2 of the meds I am currently on. The cost of buying just one more ER Hydromorphone pill a day (I need 2-3 depending on our appeal) comes out to about $1000 out of pocket for the month.

So, even paying for medical marijuana out of pocket will save me thousands a month. Unfortunately I do not know if medical marijuana will even work or help me. I did try a large dose of OTC CBD oil with no relief. Fortunately my Pain Management Doctor does prescribe medical marijuana.

One more surprise is that since I will have been on SSDI for 2 years this summer I was notified that I will be enrolled in Medicare in June, so any part of my deductible/max out of pocket ($6,300) will be for nothing once they switch me over midyear.

Thanks again for the discussion and I will let ou know if I switch and what the results are.

Carl

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Lyme disease is a horrid malady. You have my empathy.

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@cbrackle I am terribly sorry to hear you have lyme. I am afraid I may have and have a friend who is out for the year who is horridly ill. Peace and health be with you.

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@artscaping

Hello @johnbishop and others, regarding CBD oil….what I have is 2 years of experience with different product forms and options that qualify as medical marijuana and require a license to purchase. My understanding at this point is that CBD oil to which many Connect members are referring is from the family cannabis but within that family is predominantly from the hemp plant not the marijuana plant. I was told early on that for effective pain relief, the product needs to contain both CBD and some amount of THC because the THC is the agent that reacts with the CBD to make the product do its work, to kick it into gear, if you will. My one trial with pure CBD was not effective for my form of SFN (small fiber neuropathy) and CMPS (the myofascial stuff). I do realize that there is a lot of research activity going on around the world to find better ways to treat chronic pain from known natural elements as opposed to opioids. I worry though when I read self promoting “research” articles that make claims about curing some pretty heavy duty conditions. For me, marijuana is for pain amelioration and tolerance only. I know that you can not overdose on medical marijuana….and even if you went to the emergency room because you were anxious, they would just give you a valium and tell you to sleep it off. I also have not had any addictive feelings…no cravings, no withdrawal symptoms even when I temporarily ran out of product. What is important is to have a guide to help you make good choices, especially as more and more product options are being introduced every day. Vape pens are excellent delivery systems for a bit of speedy relief in 5 or so minutes but one “dose” typically doesn’t last very long, i.e. 15 minutes. Edibles require more dosage caution and for me take about 30 minutes to take effect but last for several hours. The only absolute no-nos. Never medicate with marijuana product on an empty tummy……and never mix it with alcohol. And so I forgo my Jack Daniels single barrel select. Aaaaahhhhh!
P.S. For those of us who not only fight pain but also the depression that seems to accompany our condition(s), a little bit of THC will only serve to lift that cloud of depression while the product is active. For me, that’s a very nice way to start the day.

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The medical marijuana I get, legally, in Minnesota, contains 50/50 THC and CBD administered SL. I also get a spray containing 100% THC for breakthrough pain. I have tried the Hemp oil which is a mail order product and proved very ineffective form of straight CBD. I have been taking medical pot for 2 1/2 years and I LOVE IT. One hint about mail order products, If it’s REAL marijuana it would be illegal to send by US Mail.

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@artscaping

Hello @johnbishop and others, regarding CBD oil….what I have is 2 years of experience with different product forms and options that qualify as medical marijuana and require a license to purchase. My understanding at this point is that CBD oil to which many Connect members are referring is from the family cannabis but within that family is predominantly from the hemp plant not the marijuana plant. I was told early on that for effective pain relief, the product needs to contain both CBD and some amount of THC because the THC is the agent that reacts with the CBD to make the product do its work, to kick it into gear, if you will. My one trial with pure CBD was not effective for my form of SFN (small fiber neuropathy) and CMPS (the myofascial stuff). I do realize that there is a lot of research activity going on around the world to find better ways to treat chronic pain from known natural elements as opposed to opioids. I worry though when I read self promoting “research” articles that make claims about curing some pretty heavy duty conditions. For me, marijuana is for pain amelioration and tolerance only. I know that you can not overdose on medical marijuana….and even if you went to the emergency room because you were anxious, they would just give you a valium and tell you to sleep it off. I also have not had any addictive feelings…no cravings, no withdrawal symptoms even when I temporarily ran out of product. What is important is to have a guide to help you make good choices, especially as more and more product options are being introduced every day. Vape pens are excellent delivery systems for a bit of speedy relief in 5 or so minutes but one “dose” typically doesn’t last very long, i.e. 15 minutes. Edibles require more dosage caution and for me take about 30 minutes to take effect but last for several hours. The only absolute no-nos. Never medicate with marijuana product on an empty tummy……and never mix it with alcohol. And so I forgo my Jack Daniels single barrel select. Aaaaahhhhh!
P.S. For those of us who not only fight pain but also the depression that seems to accompany our condition(s), a little bit of THC will only serve to lift that cloud of depression while the product is active. For me, that’s a very nice way to start the day.

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Correct. The CBD oil one can buy online must contain less than .03% THC. Interestingly enough, what works for me is CBD isolate (that’s right–absolutely NO THC). I even make my own tincture, which I take sublingually. I also vape when there is breakthrough pain, and am using 4 Corners Cannabis (full-spectrum)–at least until the bottle I have runs out. I have all the ingredients necessary to make my own vape oil after that.

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@cbrackle

Hi all,
I wanted to say thanks to all who have contributed to this board. It has been very educational for me since I may be forced to go on Medical Marijuana this next month.

I’m 56, have Lyme disease which manifests itself as chronic pain all over my body, Chronic pain syndrome, Bilateral peripheral Neuropathy, “fibromyalgia”, and about 5 other named issues. I also recently had both full-knee replacements which has increased my peripheral neuropathy pain significantly.
I am on Social Security Disability, have 2 different neuro-stimulator implants, a combination of extended release and fast acting Hydromorphone totaling 48 mg daily, ER Gabapentin for my neuropathy, and a few others.

Unfortunately these only take care of say 60% of my pain and my new “open Market” medical insurance says they will not cover even 1/2 of the meds I am currently on. The cost of buying just one more ER Hydromorphone pill a day (I need 2-3 depending on our appeal) comes out to about $1000 out of pocket for the month.

So, even paying for medical marijuana out of pocket will save me thousands a month. Unfortunately I do not know if medical marijuana will even work or help me. I did try a large dose of OTC CBD oil with no relief. Fortunately my Pain Management Doctor does prescribe medical marijuana.

One more surprise is that since I will have been on SSDI for 2 years this summer I was notified that I will be enrolled in Medicare in June, so any part of my deductible/max out of pocket ($6,300) will be for nothing once they switch me over midyear.

Thanks again for the discussion and I will let ou know if I switch and what the results are.

Carl

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Oh my goodness. You’ve been and are going through SO much.

Meanwhile, just a little tidbit that may be helpful for you: With CBD oil, we each have a “sweet spot” dosage-wise depending on what our individual endocannabinoid systems required. For some people, that may be just one drop once or twice a day (yep, literally); for others, it may take a dropperful (roughly 1 ml) multiple times a day.

What I tell people who take large amounts to begin with or keep titrating up until they ARE taking massive doses is that they may be skating right past their sweet spots. If the dosage best for you, for example, is three drops twice a day, taking a “large dose” will provide absolutely no relief. Nor will one or two drops twice each day.

This is one of the most frustrating things about getting started with taking CBD oil: No one can advise anyone else what will work for them. It doesn’t depend on symptoms, age, length of illness, weight…nothing that can be measured easily. It depends on what each individual’s system needs.

Some may enjoy relief within fifteen minutes of taking their very first dose; others may notice absolutely nothing for a few months until … wow … they realize they don’t hurt nearly as much as they used to. Or they aren’t as anxious. Or they’re sleeping better. Or their lab work is within normal limits for the first time in years (or ever). Or they haven’t had a seizure in six months. The list goes on.

I don’t sell it. Well, I “sell” it in that I’m like that pushy salesperson who stands between the potential customers and the door until she’s SURE they’ve heard everything about the product that will make them soooooo happy (healthy in this case), but I don’t make a dime from my “sales” efforts. I’ve been through what so many people with chronic pain are going through, and oh how I wish someone had presented me with the facts–with the information I now know–years ago! My life improved more than I ever thought possible before giving CBD oil a shot. And I was the biggest skeptic there was in the entire history of natural medicinal healing properties.

CBD oil can be expensive, but once you find your sweet spot, it really comes down in price once you can make your own. (And it is NOT difficult, nor does it take all kinds of specialized equipment, etc.)

Just my two cents worth. Please consider giving it another shot. The website http://www.cbdoilusersgroup.com is an essential resource, as is their Facebook page (though you have to learn everything you can on your own and not just take members’ advice at face value, but that’s true with anything, isn’t it?).

I wish you the best, and pray you will be pleasantly surprised by relief very, very soon.

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I can assure all when it comes to some things I have no “sweet spot”. Charlatans are everywhere. I see them as predators.

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Anyone taking Tylenol can test positive for THC. I have chronic pain and days I can do nothing much. Mayhap the day will come I would be willing to try nearly anything. Not there yet.

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@parus

I can assure all when it comes to some things I have no “sweet spot”. Charlatans are everywhere. I see them as predators.

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That’s fine. CBD oil has been a Godsend for so, so many people, including me. I thought much like you until a few short months ago.

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@kellye5

@cbrackle I am terribly sorry to hear you have lyme. I am afraid I may have and have a friend who is out for the year who is horridly ill. Peace and health be with you.

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Thank you! And may God bless your friend with healing and peace of mind.

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@cbrackle

Hi all,
I wanted to say thanks to all who have contributed to this board. It has been very educational for me since I may be forced to go on Medical Marijuana this next month.

I’m 56, have Lyme disease which manifests itself as chronic pain all over my body, Chronic pain syndrome, Bilateral peripheral Neuropathy, “fibromyalgia”, and about 5 other named issues. I also recently had both full-knee replacements which has increased my peripheral neuropathy pain significantly.
I am on Social Security Disability, have 2 different neuro-stimulator implants, a combination of extended release and fast acting Hydromorphone totaling 48 mg daily, ER Gabapentin for my neuropathy, and a few others.

Unfortunately these only take care of say 60% of my pain and my new “open Market” medical insurance says they will not cover even 1/2 of the meds I am currently on. The cost of buying just one more ER Hydromorphone pill a day (I need 2-3 depending on our appeal) comes out to about $1000 out of pocket for the month.

So, even paying for medical marijuana out of pocket will save me thousands a month. Unfortunately I do not know if medical marijuana will even work or help me. I did try a large dose of OTC CBD oil with no relief. Fortunately my Pain Management Doctor does prescribe medical marijuana.

One more surprise is that since I will have been on SSDI for 2 years this summer I was notified that I will be enrolled in Medicare in June, so any part of my deductible/max out of pocket ($6,300) will be for nothing once they switch me over midyear.

Thanks again for the discussion and I will let ou know if I switch and what the results are.

Carl

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I still have quite a few CBD capsules, do you have any recommendation on how to give it another try?
I started out trying one capsule, then went to 2, then got frustrated and went to 4.
They each contain 15 mg of CBD.

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