Blood Clots from Chemo?

Posted by gamaryanne @gamaryanne, May 6 9:00pm

I am currently on Naliri. Scans say my liver tumor has shrunk About 50% and lung module is no longer visible.
However, they have identified 2 blood clots. One in my lung and one in my liver.

Has anyone experienced blood clots ?
Did you do anything other than take Eloquis?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Pancreatic Cancer Support Group.

For background, I had Whipple February 9th 2024, then 12 rounds of Folfirinox during which my CA19-9 never rose above 11, but then CT-scan 2 weeks later showed liver lesions and subcutaneous belly tumor. I had SBRT the first week of March. Restarted Gemcitabene/Abraxane in late April. I had a CT scan yesterday and am waiting for results, however I started having pain under my bottom right ribcage a week and a half ago, and so of course I am terrified this is new and the treatments are not working. If that's the case, is lipsomal irinotecan my next shot, or do I try to get into an RM6236 trial somewhere? I know you are not doctors but appreciate your thoughts. My CA19-9 is 132 right now, has not reliably come down but more bounces around. I am unfortunately KRAS G12V, and adenosquamous (the most aggressive type).

REPLY
@dalegantous

For background, I had Whipple February 9th 2024, then 12 rounds of Folfirinox during which my CA19-9 never rose above 11, but then CT-scan 2 weeks later showed liver lesions and subcutaneous belly tumor. I had SBRT the first week of March. Restarted Gemcitabene/Abraxane in late April. I had a CT scan yesterday and am waiting for results, however I started having pain under my bottom right ribcage a week and a half ago, and so of course I am terrified this is new and the treatments are not working. If that's the case, is lipsomal irinotecan my next shot, or do I try to get into an RM6236 trial somewhere? I know you are not doctors but appreciate your thoughts. My CA19-9 is 132 right now, has not reliably come down but more bounces around. I am unfortunately KRAS G12V, and adenosquamous (the most aggressive type).

Jump to this post

I’m in the exact condition you are in - had to face those choices of Naliri or 6236. My CA19-9 (289) and CEA are rising and had 4 types of scans and MRI showed nothing and CT and PET ID’d maybe very small lesion in liver and high uptake 4.9 on gallbladder. I’ve only been on gemzar since January of this year and my numbers only started to go above normal limits at very end of April; so we are on a “witch” hunt now. I didn’t take the 6236 phase 3 trial because it’s randomized and only 50% get the target drug (it has a name now but I forget offhand its name); the arm I believe is the liposomal chemo. I rather look for surgical options if in liver or gallbladder. If in peritoneal area then I might try Claudin 18.2 if I can get it. Trouble I have with Naliri is that it can cause someone with lung disease to get worse and I have history of asthma and interstitial lung disease. It’s all a personal and I’ll be praying you find the right solution for you.

REPLY
@gamaryanne

@mnewland99
Naliri includes 5fu.
The difference is that the irinotecan is a lipsomal version.
The side effects are similar to folfuri. But it seems to be working. I’m hoping for two more rounds to get my CA19-9 back to normal OR to have the lesion small enough for SBRT. I will find out Thursday how small the area must be for SBRT. Hoping it’s already there !
As an aside, my surgeon removed my gallbladder when he was working on my liver. He said it was useless and just another area to attract cancer. Maybe just get it out?!

Jump to this post

My liver lesion was 0.9cm before SBRT and based on scans they say it worked, however a new lesion adjacent to old one may have sprung up - too small to see now to be sure. I’m seeing gallbladder specialist now.

REPLY
@mnewland99

I’m in the exact condition you are in - had to face those choices of Naliri or 6236. My CA19-9 (289) and CEA are rising and had 4 types of scans and MRI showed nothing and CT and PET ID’d maybe very small lesion in liver and high uptake 4.9 on gallbladder. I’ve only been on gemzar since January of this year and my numbers only started to go above normal limits at very end of April; so we are on a “witch” hunt now. I didn’t take the 6236 phase 3 trial because it’s randomized and only 50% get the target drug (it has a name now but I forget offhand its name); the arm I believe is the liposomal chemo. I rather look for surgical options if in liver or gallbladder. If in peritoneal area then I might try Claudin 18.2 if I can get it. Trouble I have with Naliri is that it can cause someone with lung disease to get worse and I have history of asthma and interstitial lung disease. It’s all a personal and I’ll be praying you find the right solution for you.

Jump to this post

Thank you so much for your response @mnewland99, seems we are on the same road, I'm not a big pray-er but I will pray for you too. Keep me posted and I will do the same.

REPLY
@mnewland99

My liver lesion was 0.9cm before SBRT and based on scans they say it worked, however a new lesion adjacent to old one may have sprung up - too small to see now to be sure. I’m seeing gallbladder specialist now.

Jump to this post

@mnewland99 when we look at my scans together, the doctor points out that area can show post treatment scarring. Let us hope that is what your radiologist is writing about.
Wondering, since you are in the great state of CA, have you met with anyone at Cedars? I met once with a very impressive young doc there focused on this cancer.

REPLY
@mnewland99

I’m in the exact condition you are in - had to face those choices of Naliri or 6236. My CA19-9 (289) and CEA are rising and had 4 types of scans and MRI showed nothing and CT and PET ID’d maybe very small lesion in liver and high uptake 4.9 on gallbladder. I’ve only been on gemzar since January of this year and my numbers only started to go above normal limits at very end of April; so we are on a “witch” hunt now. I didn’t take the 6236 phase 3 trial because it’s randomized and only 50% get the target drug (it has a name now but I forget offhand its name); the arm I believe is the liposomal chemo. I rather look for surgical options if in liver or gallbladder. If in peritoneal area then I might try Claudin 18.2 if I can get it. Trouble I have with Naliri is that it can cause someone with lung disease to get worse and I have history of asthma and interstitial lung disease. It’s all a personal and I’ll be praying you find the right solution for you.

Jump to this post

Well I just got my CT scan results and they are not good. 2 more lesions in the liver, and possibly others but hard to interpret. I am meeting with my oncologist tomorrow morning and hopefully she can suggest course of action.

REPLY
@dalegantous

Well I just got my CT scan results and they are not good. 2 more lesions in the liver, and possibly others but hard to interpret. I am meeting with my oncologist tomorrow morning and hopefully she can suggest course of action.

Jump to this post

I’m so sorry @dalegantous to hear your news. Based on your CA19-9 results it sounds like you caught this is early. My CA19-9 2 weeks ago was 284. You have a number of options available to you: histotripsy, new chemo drugs like Naliri, etc. New diagnoses are always difficult, as you mentioned in your last post we will pray for each other for a good outcome and hope for time and a cure.

REPLY
@mnewland99

I’m so sorry @dalegantous to hear your news. Based on your CA19-9 results it sounds like you caught this is early. My CA19-9 2 weeks ago was 284. You have a number of options available to you: histotripsy, new chemo drugs like Naliri, etc. New diagnoses are always difficult, as you mentioned in your last post we will pray for each other for a good outcome and hope for time and a cure.

Jump to this post

Thank you @mnewland99! Plan is for me to try to get SBRT on new liver lesions, and my oncologist tomorrow morning is switching me to Naliri. Really appreciate this forum and your comments, that's how I learned about Naliri!

REPLY
@dalegantous

Thank you @mnewland99! Plan is for me to try to get SBRT on new liver lesions, and my oncologist tomorrow morning is switching me to Naliri. Really appreciate this forum and your comments, that's how I learned about Naliri!

Jump to this post

At my high school (small, private Catholic school) our motto was “We are wonderful 1x1”; same applies here. I was pretty much an ignoramus about pancreatic cancer even though my dad had it and I was his caregiver, albeit it over 25 years ago, before I found this site. Though I value them immensely, no dr has ever provided me with the wealth of info I have learned from my fellow pancan members and alumni on this site. We help each other.

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.