Bipolar and ideas of how to help ourselves beyond medication

Posted by healthytoday @healthytoday, Dec 10, 2018

Bipolar, I decided no matter what, I could study it, and get to know it. From there, I added vitamins (especially B and omega3. I felt better. Also, activity and funny movies helped. There are so many things I could do besides medication. I do have the milder form of it and have seem family members with a more severe illness. Meds are a life saver at certain times, and I was put on prozac back in the 1990’s for 7 years that helped me get through my teaching career. At that time I needed “the big boys” to help with the heavy lifting, but being retired I rely on life style and not on any psy. agents. What a struggle. Anyone have simple ideas that help? Oh, I did find good coffee a boost against depression, but since my heart abif no more caffeine….: (…but dark chocolate is okay. I do miss coffee. I love beautiful music really can raise my mood. Once a therapist suggested a sad movie once a week to bring on a good cry. Tears release toxins. What else can we do for ourselves?

@tjprather

I was diagnosed late in life. I have been successful through life and accept the diagnosis. My mom coming from Italy was probably manic and my father was depressive. I'm a Vietnam Vet with a bachelor's degree. I have the experience of dealing with this disease for years. I have the best doctors, but the biggest mistake they make is labeling and medicating trying to heal person. My bipolar is part of my person. If you take it all away you taking my spiritual being away . We are all different for we live in this shell of body that eventually will pass on. Treat the spirit of yourself live, love, cry be happy and sad it's normal. God gave us emotion's and He will help us through our hardest times. I'm a survivor and let me smell the flowers. I have so much to contribute, but I.m stopping for now. Stay Healthy you have control.

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@tjprather Thank you for your service. I have lived alongside mental illness for decades, usually in the form of depression. It is part of who I am, but I am so cautious of labels of any sort, and refuse to be defined by any malady. I really like your words!
Ginger

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@mcmurf2

I too am bipolar. last 'summer' I went thru 6 months of DBT studying. I will start it again in a few months. It really helps reset your mind when you need it. I had to go to a different therapist that was actually trained in it. Sounds like your on top of activities!!! good job. !! !! I have to keep myself art busy in the winter. I HAVE to have 1-2 projects going at a time. Summer is easier for me as I can get outside in gardens and horses. But, when the mind wanders into 'bad' territory, I go back to the DBT information and work thru what ever it is that is on my mind. hope this helps.

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I believe in educated yourself of the Bi-polar. It is actually new in the world of mental health. I have volunteer for many different activities. I love old people because they have so much to teach us. I don't have all the solution, but I'm human and this country is only 250 years old. It was founded in God we Trust. Somehow we have lost those simple truths Medicine does not have all the answers. The mind is very delicate and what we believe in moles us and shapes us into the person we are. I love creative people and it sounds you are one. Keep it up and express yourself. Bi-polar people are exceptional in all areas of the arts. I love dance, singing, writing poems and many more adventures. Life is short so keep doing what is best for you. Tom.

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@gingerw

@marjou Welcome to Mayo Connect. We are a diverse group of people who share our stories and experiences. Sharing about stepping out of what is comfortable, and helping others at the same time, sounds like a win-win situation for everyone! English can be quite a challenge to learn, there are many ways to pronounce the same written word. I bet the people who you work with are happy to have someone care about them like this! What else have you chosen to do that helps you not isolate so much?
Ginger

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I belonged to a mental health support group at Veteran Hospital and a civilian support group at Christ Hospital. They are so different. In groups I would say what you see is what you get. My mother being from Italy has taught us survivor skills through laughter. My childhood was a difficult one. A mother learning English and father who cheated on my mom. I have so many stories I could tell about my life, but love always wins. You have to forgive others and yourself and not carry the pain. Let it go. It only holds our ability to be ourself. I did prison ministry, nursing homes, children that are homeless and many other interest. I love to observe people and guess what makes them unique. I would have to write a book to share my life, but not motivated. I like one on one sharing so I don't become over burden. I love God, Jesus and Holy Spirit. I learned so much from the Holy Scriptures and sharing my thoughts. This has been my survival. God does not disappoint. Noone can take that away from me. What the doctors think about this I don't care God wins over them and I make this very clear. I'm not a preacher or push my beleifs on others. I walk with whatever the Spiritual gifts that I receive. Love is the greatest of all of them. Love yourself and forgive those who think your not for real. Tom.

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@tjprather

I belonged to a mental health support group at Veteran Hospital and a civilian support group at Christ Hospital. They are so different. In groups I would say what you see is what you get. My mother being from Italy has taught us survivor skills through laughter. My childhood was a difficult one. A mother learning English and father who cheated on my mom. I have so many stories I could tell about my life, but love always wins. You have to forgive others and yourself and not carry the pain. Let it go. It only holds our ability to be ourself. I did prison ministry, nursing homes, children that are homeless and many other interest. I love to observe people and guess what makes them unique. I would have to write a book to share my life, but not motivated. I like one on one sharing so I don't become over burden. I love God, Jesus and Holy Spirit. I learned so much from the Holy Scriptures and sharing my thoughts. This has been my survival. God does not disappoint. Noone can take that away from me. What the doctors think about this I don't care God wins over them and I make this very clear. I'm not a preacher or push my beleifs on others. I walk with whatever the Spiritual gifts that I receive. Love is the greatest of all of them. Love yourself and forgive those who think your not for real. Tom.

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@tjprather

Forgiving is surely one of the paths to health. For the most part I've found it easier to forgive others than to forgive myself. That, for me, has taken a lot longer. I know that people say we shouldn't dwell on the past, but it's the past that has led us to today. It's sometimes important to give thought to our past blessings and successes as well as the mistakes and difficulties. There are some who are stuck in the past and some who live in future dreams. Wisdom balances lessons learned from the past and plans and hopes for the future with living well today. Hmm?

As you have said, Tom, you're a survivor of a long past full of adventures, and you have a hope for a future that will extend way beyond this life. I look forward to meeting you there. Well, maybe we won't meet – there are a lot of unknowns about that new world. But plenty of knowns.

Jim

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@jimhd

@tjprather

Forgiving is surely one of the paths to health. For the most part I've found it easier to forgive others than to forgive myself. That, for me, has taken a lot longer. I know that people say we shouldn't dwell on the past, but it's the past that has led us to today. It's sometimes important to give thought to our past blessings and successes as well as the mistakes and difficulties. There are some who are stuck in the past and some who live in future dreams. Wisdom balances lessons learned from the past and plans and hopes for the future with living well today. Hmm?

As you have said, Tom, you're a survivor of a long past full of adventures, and you have a hope for a future that will extend way beyond this life. I look forward to meeting you there. Well, maybe we won't meet – there are a lot of unknowns about that new world. But plenty of knowns.

Jim

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Jim,
I know how to forgive myself and others who hurt me. I don't have any regrets I learn and move on. No one is perfect. We all make mistakes,, but God's healing is perfect. I always live by faith, hope and love. That has been my medication mentally and physically. We are responsible for our decision's in life. I would do it all over again because that is what makes me who I'm. My great nephew can't walk, talk, but he laughs and cry. No one can hurt him and I've learn more from him then a perfect healthy child. We all have are burdens, but it is what we do with them that molds us. I'm happy and I will eventually tell you about my heart event. I'm alive and my heart is always open to help and understand others. Do something that makes you happy. Music of all types help me. Tom

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@jimhd

@tjprather

Forgiving is surely one of the paths to health. For the most part I've found it easier to forgive others than to forgive myself. That, for me, has taken a lot longer. I know that people say we shouldn't dwell on the past, but it's the past that has led us to today. It's sometimes important to give thought to our past blessings and successes as well as the mistakes and difficulties. There are some who are stuck in the past and some who live in future dreams. Wisdom balances lessons learned from the past and plans and hopes for the future with living well today. Hmm?

As you have said, Tom, you're a survivor of a long past full of adventures, and you have a hope for a future that will extend way beyond this life. I look forward to meeting you there. Well, maybe we won't meet – there are a lot of unknowns about that new world. But plenty of knowns.

Jim

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Jim, now that I'm house bound due to the virus concerns, I'm trying to sort activities besides tv. I'm 72 and have about 25 journels of drawings, poems and essays from my past. Two or three chapters of the past. I get what you said about the past and the guilt people impose with someone actually pondering the past. But when your retired, with a weak heart, and home bound, just what am I suppose to do….I can read the thoughts of others and there lives, and I do. I can work outdoors cleaning up zero scaping which energizes me. I'm about ready to tackle the journels and make some decisions. No big bond fire since I live in the city and I don't want to pollute our precious air. Maybe the shredder. Or, maybe I'll read them and embarse myself with my sentimentality. Today I went through my notebook of a life time of resumes and letters of recommendation. At first I thought, this is embarressing, but I persisted and began t o see how much I did and what a good job I did. I think when I leave this world I'll take my notebook of resumes.

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@healthytoday

Jim, now that I'm house bound due to the virus concerns, I'm trying to sort activities besides tv. I'm 72 and have about 25 journels of drawings, poems and essays from my past. Two or three chapters of the past. I get what you said about the past and the guilt people impose with someone actually pondering the past. But when your retired, with a weak heart, and home bound, just what am I suppose to do….I can read the thoughts of others and there lives, and I do. I can work outdoors cleaning up zero scaping which energizes me. I'm about ready to tackle the journels and make some decisions. No big bond fire since I live in the city and I don't want to pollute our precious air. Maybe the shredder. Or, maybe I'll read them and embarse myself with my sentimentality. Today I went through my notebook of a life time of resumes and letters of recommendation. At first I thought, this is embarressing, but I persisted and began t o see how much I did and what a good job I did. I think when I leave this world I'll take my notebook of resumes.

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@healthytoday

I read my journals quite recently, around 15 years worth, mainly to make a record of when I started and stopped taking a long list of medications. It made for some interesting reading. I've told my wife to toss them when I die, without reading them.

I'm already mostly at home, especially in the summer, so being told to stay home is certainly nothing new. We have had to live the prepper lifestyle for quite a few years because it was a more than 2 hour drive to Wal-Mart and Costco, so our Suburban was usually full on the drive home. My wife grew up on a farm, so that's how she was raised. I was raised just the opposite, but I think that the hoarder gene was implanted at birth. So, our pantry and paper goods cupboard are always full. Sometimes it might be good to have a milk cow. But they have to be milked every day. We have ten acres, so we could put her on the pasture. But I'm trying to make our lives lower maintenance. So, probably no cow in our future unless a neighbor would want to share one. That is a thought. My in-laws had one during my wife's childhood. Hmm. I'd better not trouble my mind with that tonight, right at bedtime.

Jim

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Jim

I would love being on a farm. there is so much to experience. Watching the crops grow and animals much more. Living in the city is not the best way of feeling good and being creative. Smell the air and enjoy your companionship. The city is not the best place to be right now. It's like the ocean. It seems to never end.. Sleeping at night must be great. Start enjoying your surroundings. Do something that makes you happy. Tom

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Pi is OK to be anxious about vires. It's happening all over the world. Being in milatery and seeing third world countries it does not surprise me.The world is full of good things and bad thing. I reflect on the good things. Worrying only makes you sick. Keep busy and enjoy the little things around you. Watch the news and use the advice given to us. Say a little prayer and God will look after you. He created us and knows our hearts. Stay safe and remember there is always tomorrow. Breath the fresh air and enjoy. I'm going to stay positive and end of this virus will come. Tom

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@tjprather

Jim

I would love being on a farm. there is so much to experience. Watching the crops grow and animals much more. Living in the city is not the best way of feeling good and being creative. Smell the air and enjoy your companionship. The city is not the best place to be right now. It's like the ocean. It seems to never end.. Sleeping at night must be great. Start enjoying your surroundings. Do something that makes you happy. Tom

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@tjprather

Thanks, Tom. I do enjoy having quietude and open space. Ten years ago I wouldn't have used the word enjoy because depression had sucked enjoyment and pleasure out of me. The other day I put new tires and tubes on my bicycle so I can ride to the mailbox, about 3/4 of a mile from home to mailbox.

We are very happy to live where we do. Central Oregon is high desert and only has an annual precipitation of 14". We have a lot less trouble with allergies, and the winters are generally cold and sunny, today being a classic central Oregon winter day, with a blue sky and 35° at noon.

I haven't felt happy for 16 years, but I do feel less sadness than I did the first half of the years. Major depression in combination with anxiety disorder and PTSD squelches most emotions, but most notably happiness. I'm grateful that I can see improvement in my mood by now. I hope never to find myself in that dark hole of depression again.

Are you finding things that make you happy?

Jim

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I'm finding things that make me happy. I love old movies and reading spirited books. I also like history channel, comedies etc. My sister and me watched Moonstruck and of course she cried. I love autobiographies. Patty Dukes book is excellent. She had a difficult road to follow, but she survived. Never let someone bring you down. Always stay positive. Barbara Steisand sings on a clear day you can see forever. I control my mind and what you put into the delicate organ will set your mood. Jim be happy it's OK. You deserve it and walk around the farm. Enjoy because life is short so why waste your time. I seen two birds on the fence and just watched them. They seem to sense that, but they made me happy. It's the little things that gives us happiness. Tom

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@jimhd

@healthytoday

I read my journals quite recently, around 15 years worth, mainly to make a record of when I started and stopped taking a long list of medications. It made for some interesting reading. I've told my wife to toss them when I die, without reading them.

I'm already mostly at home, especially in the summer, so being told to stay home is certainly nothing new. We have had to live the prepper lifestyle for quite a few years because it was a more than 2 hour drive to Wal-Mart and Costco, so our Suburban was usually full on the drive home. My wife grew up on a farm, so that's how she was raised. I was raised just the opposite, but I think that the hoarder gene was implanted at birth. So, our pantry and paper goods cupboard are always full. Sometimes it might be good to have a milk cow. But they have to be milked every day. We have ten acres, so we could put her on the pasture. But I'm trying to make our lives lower maintenance. So, probably no cow in our future unless a neighbor would want to share one. That is a thought. My in-laws had one during my wife's childhood. Hmm. I'd better not trouble my mind with that tonight, right at bedtime.

Jim

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Funny.

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I look in the mirror every morning and say you sure our ugly from the Color Purple. I look again and laugh. No one is ugly, not even the Elephant Man. I find beauty in everyone. Tom.

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@tjprather

I look in the mirror every morning and say you sure our ugly from the Color Purple. I look again and laugh. No one is ugly, not even the Elephant Man. I find beauty in everyone. Tom.

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I'm not very kind to myself in the mirror.

I just took out some recycling and on the way looked at how the plants are doing. The mini daffodils have bloomed, the forsythia is about to bloom and I need to burn the big pile of prunings that has accumulated over the past year. But I need it to be a bit warmer so I can get hoses out to it, and mow a larger area around the pile. Last year the fire got away from me and burned a bit too close to my pickup.

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