Focal awareness seizures or auras?

Posted by kelspal @kelspal, Apr 13 9:43pm

My daughter has her neurologist thinks are awareness focal seizures. They are very short (5-10 seconds) and happen during stressful situations, when experiencing anxiety, and during and around her menstruation. Her doctor put her in keppra 250 twice a day and it didn't change much. Then it was increased to 500, then 750 and then 1000 mg twice a day. She still has an occasional aura feeling but not sure if its epilepsy. She is having side effects from meds; tired, crabby, etc and does not want to take drugs she may not need. She was going to ask to slowly wean to 750 twice a day and see if there are any changes. Has anyone had a similar situation?

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Hi @jafar
Thank you for sharing these symptoms with us. Most of the symptoms you describe are quite new to me, even though I also experience seizures where I remain aware during the episode.
Since Meige syndrome was completely new to me, I did some research to learn more about it. I discovered that while both are neurological conditions, they are quite distinct, though they can sometimes be misdiagnosed—particularly with epilepsy involving seizures that originate in the frontal lobe (my seizures originate in my temporal lobe).
I'm glad to hear you have an appointment with an epileptologist scheduled later this month. I look forward to hearing what the doctor says. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
Chris

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Thank you, Lisa. I am videoing these events myself using my phone propped on my legs.
I have an appointment on 10/31 with the epilepsy specialist.

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I may have epilepsy even though an EEG did not show it. I have fully aware bilateral facial spasms for 6 mos., preceded by nausea 1-3x day for 2-5 mins. Sometimes my tongue protrudes at the end, then retracts quickly. My nausea stops shortly after these episodes.
I am told that since it starts on left side of face and goes to right down from my eyes to lips and chin, with muscle clenching, that I would typically be unconscious but I am always totally aware and video these events often.
I am waiting to see an epilepsy specialist but has anyone else experienced something similar? Other possibility is Meige syndrome. I an a 66 year old female. The neurologists I’ve seen so far are stumped. Brain MRI and MRA are normal. Thanks.

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Hi, @jafar - since you'd mentioned a possible focal aware epilepsy diagnosis, I moved your post here to this larger, existing discussion on focal awareness seizures so you could meet Mayo Clinic Connect members talking about this topic such as @kelspal @santosha @mollie1022 @lzbthtyler and others. They can let you know if they recognize or relate to the symptoms you are describing and share anything they may know about Meige syndrome.

Are you videoing these events yourself, or do you have a friend or family member who does that for you? When will you get to see the epilepsy specialist you mentioned?

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I may have epilepsy even though an EEG did not show it. I have fully aware bilateral facial spasms for 6 mos., preceded by nausea 1-3x day for 2-5 mins. Sometimes my tongue protrudes at the end, then retracts quickly. My nausea stops shortly after these episodes.
I am told that since it starts on left side of face and goes to right down from my eyes to lips and chin, with muscle clenching, that I would typically be unconscious but I am always totally aware and video these events often.
I am waiting to see an epilepsy specialist but has anyone else experienced something similar? Other possibility is Meige syndrome. I an a 66 year old female. The neurologists I’ve seen so far are stumped. Brain MRI and MRA are normal. Thanks.

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Do you mind me asking what hormonal therapy they recommended?

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Hi @lzbthtyler
I've been taking birth control pills continuously for 4-5 months without a break for menstruation. Additionally, my gynecologist has prescribed a testosterone cream that I'm currently using.
Chris

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@mollie1022
Thanks for sharing that with me. From what I've read, estrogen and progesterone can still fluctuate quite a bit during menopause, and those hormonal changes can definitely trigger seizures.
Have you had a chance to discuss this with your neurologist? It might be worth exploring whether hormonal therapy could help reduce seizures in your situation. The hormonal therapy that my neurologist and gynecologist recommended together has made a real difference in my seizure control, though I'm still in perimenopause.
Chris

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Do you mind me asking what hormonal therapy they recommended?

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Hi Chris -
The only difference from pre-menopause to menopause is that I could actually time (monthly) that seizure. That helped because I have focal impaired awareness seizures and most of the time, I didn't even know that I had one.
I am still having a few a month - nothing has changed.
Thanks,
Nicole

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@mollie1022
Thanks for sharing that with me. From what I've read, estrogen and progesterone can still fluctuate quite a bit during menopause, and those hormonal changes can definitely trigger seizures.
Have you had a chance to discuss this with your neurologist? It might be worth exploring whether hormonal therapy could help reduce seizures in your situation. The hormonal therapy that my neurologist and gynecologist recommended together has made a real difference in my seizure control, though I'm still in perimenopause.
Chris

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Unfortunately, they were not able to capture any events. I'm back on Xcopri 250 mg and they added Brivact 50 mg twice a day. They also suggested I talk to my gyno about hormone therapy.

Elizabeth

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@lzbthtyler
Hi Elizabeth!
I'm so sorry to hear that no seizures were captured during your last EEG. That can be really frustrating. Did you experience any events during the exam? Episodes like PNES (also known as FND seizures) don't show up on EEGs.
I really hope the hormonal therapy works as well for you as it has for me; it made such a difference in my case.
Please keep me posted on how things go. I'd love to hear about your progress on the hormonal therapy!
Chris

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Hi @lzbthtyler
How did your EMU stay go? I hope they were able to capture some helpful information for you. 🙏

Hi @mollie1022
Welcome to our group to Connect.
Just to make sure I understood your post correctly - have you noticed fewer seizures since going from pre-menopausal to menopausal?

Chris

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Hi Chris -
The only difference from pre-menopause to menopause is that I could actually time (monthly) that seizure. That helped because I have focal impaired awareness seizures and most of the time, I didn't even know that I had one.
I am still having a few a month - nothing has changed.
Thanks,
Nicole

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Unfortunately, they were not able to capture any events. I'm back on Xcopri 250 mg and they added Brivact 50 mg twice a day. They also suggested I talk to my gyno about hormone therapy.

Elizabeth

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