Any advice on getting drivers license back after medical suspension?

Posted by tatiana987 @tatiana987, Jul 23 7:08pm

A neurologist took my drivers license away, claiming he is legally required to do so because I had seizure-like episodes. The term used is “loss of awareness”. No question, this is a misdiagnosis. This has caused and is causing terrible harm. My healthy, happy life style has been attacked to save this doctor’s medical license, it appears.

My advice to everyone, especially old women, is not to go to a doctor for summer dizziness or temperature related light-headedness. Perhaps some doctors actually listen to old women, but I have not found them. I have no traffic tickets, no accidents, no medical studies showing seizures, no diabetes. I only have my badly expressed attempt to get help for falls caused by Repatha shots, high ambient temperatures and perhaps some dehydration and sensitivities or allergies. (Multi-factorial causation for my falls.) End result is no medical help is available to me and although I understand what causes my problem now, I am not permitted to use normal driving to seek solutions. Various folks have advised me to drive anyway without a license or to leave the USA.

This nasty experience has induced a sort of guilt-ridden PTSD. Previous extreme situations involving loss of freedom keep flashing in my mind: I was a runaway kid in jail, cavity search before several guards, getting shot at, being unable to get a visa that I needed to go home to my family, friend in Russian prison who had a “heart attack” there, as so many dissidents did…and more. I feel like a whining child because I am privileged really. I did not have my leg blown off in a war. My trauma is minor compared to real victims of violence with PTSD. That’s why I say guilty feeling.

Any advice for me?

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@SusanEllen66

You do use your seatbelt all the time, don’t you?

Not quite “all the time” but I’m getting better.

Had a good hearing with the DMV Driver Safety Hearing Offover. Gook behind the wheel test this morning. Missed 5. Can miss up to 20. A couple mistakes were stupid and things I never forget to do. The guy testing me was great, good sense of humor & friendly. Decision in 15 days. Attorney believes my license will be reinstated.
Jake

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Received a message from my attorney yesterday regarding my license.
My suspension has been set aside so today I am going to go to DMV to get my driver's license back. It's only been 5 months but seems like an eternity.
Jake

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Received a message from my attorney yesterday regarding my license.
My suspension has been set aside so today I am going to go to DMV to get my driver's license back. It's only been 5 months but seems like an eternity.
Jake

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Congratulations! I remember my joy when I got the DMV letter saying I could drive again. (My seizures were successfully controlled for the required months. )

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What shocks me is that I never had a seizure but the doctor thought I might and felt obligated to report to the DMV. It was not seizures. I had a reaction to Repatha that caused me to fall often. I detoxed from Repatha and stopped falling. No help from doctors with the the detox.

There is too much irrational, unscientific power in a doctor’s hands imo. In the end, being unable to drive forced me to educate myself about the « very safe » drug I was on which is deadly dangerous, in my experience and to learn to help myself. My view is we have to take control from doctors sometimes.

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What shocks me is that I never had a seizure but the doctor thought I might and felt obligated to report to the DMV. It was not seizures. I had a reaction to Repatha that caused me to fall often. I detoxed from Repatha and stopped falling. No help from doctors with the the detox.

There is too much irrational, unscientific power in a doctor’s hands imo. In the end, being unable to drive forced me to educate myself about the « very safe » drug I was on which is deadly dangerous, in my experience and to learn to help myself. My view is we have to take control from doctors sometimes.

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A very good result engineered by a very determined, and smart, lady.

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Thank-you. That was nice to read.

I used to live in Minsk which was and is still much like the old Soviet Union. I saw how medicine became an arm of a totalitarian system. Obviously, the U.S. system is not that oppressive, but sometimes it reminds me of the bad old days under Uncle Luke.*

*Like Stalin was called «Uncle Joe » in mock affection, Lukashenko, Belarus’ nasty dictator, is called Uncle Luke.

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Thank-you. That was nice to read.

I used to live in Minsk which was and is still much like the old Soviet Union. I saw how medicine became an arm of a totalitarian system. Obviously, the U.S. system is not that oppressive, but sometimes it reminds me of the bad old days under Uncle Luke.*

*Like Stalin was called «Uncle Joe » in mock affection, Lukashenko, Belarus’ nasty dictator, is called Uncle Luke.

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I try to remind myself that doctors, who are only human, begin to go numb and to de-tune shortly after commencing their practices. Learning and getting qualified, that is exciting, novel, requires energy and commitment. Something new every day. But, unless they go on to specialization (which most seem to want to do these days, few family doctors), and can maintain that drive, their day-to-day experience becomes routine, repetitive, many repeat visits by the same sick people whom they can't really help...etc. After ten years of that, and a ballooning belly from stress, we might appreciate why family medicine is almost a thing of the past. And because of this, the specialists have to take up the slack. Family doctors can't/wont help many of us, so we go to where we think the real help is going to be....and that's waiting months to see a specialist (at least, that's the way in Canada where the State owns us and our health care).

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I try to remind myself that doctors, who are only human, begin to go numb and to de-tune shortly after commencing their practices. Learning and getting qualified, that is exciting, novel, requires energy and commitment. Something new every day. But, unless they go on to specialization (which most seem to want to do these days, few family doctors), and can maintain that drive, their day-to-day experience becomes routine, repetitive, many repeat visits by the same sick people whom they can't really help...etc. After ten years of that, and a ballooning belly from stress, we might appreciate why family medicine is almost a thing of the past. And because of this, the specialists have to take up the slack. Family doctors can't/wont help many of us, so we go to where we think the real help is going to be....and that's waiting months to see a specialist (at least, that's the way in Canada where the State owns us and our health care).

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I am not sure how our medical system can be fixed to allow doctors to do the best they can, but sometimes the problems may be partly the fault of patients and/or their advocates. For example, when I was forced to help myself after losing my drivers’ license, I slowly began to realize how I supported the existence of the big problems in medicine by just accepting what doctors told me, without thinking for myself and demanding answers.

One example: the system here in Nevada lists your drug allergies on your permanent medical record, but their definition of « allergic » is anything but scientific. And you are listed as allergic to a whole class of medications, not just the one you tried. If you vomit after taking med #1, who knows why you vomited ? There is no logic in concluding that you are allergic to a class of medications. I just accepted their word that I was allergic to the class of meds, when I should have helped the docs use their to brains to observe accurately and record correctly. Patients should speak up, complain, ask questions, make it hard for doctors to go along with the broken system.

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I am not sure how our medical system can be fixed to allow doctors to do the best they can, but sometimes the problems may be partly the fault of patients and/or their advocates. For example, when I was forced to help myself after losing my drivers’ license, I slowly began to realize how I supported the existence of the big problems in medicine by just accepting what doctors told me, without thinking for myself and demanding answers.

One example: the system here in Nevada lists your drug allergies on your permanent medical record, but their definition of « allergic » is anything but scientific. And you are listed as allergic to a whole class of medications, not just the one you tried. If you vomit after taking med #1, who knows why you vomited ? There is no logic in concluding that you are allergic to a class of medications. I just accepted their word that I was allergic to the class of meds, when I should have helped the docs use their to brains to observe accurately and record correctly. Patients should speak up, complain, ask questions, make it hard for doctors to go along with the broken system.

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"I am not sure how our medical system can be fixed to allow doctors to do the best they can."
For one thing doctors can quit making assumptions especially if there are witnesses to counter their incorrect claim.
There is nothing to be ashamed of in saying, I don't know.
Perhaps the doctors are trying to air on the side of caution, but that's not always fair to the patients?
Take care,
Jake

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Good afternoon Tatiana987,
You have my compassion, as I just began my license suspension on 11/9/25, after having tried to be proactive about my health for a few years, due to vasovagal presyncopal episodes, although some in the medical community and the DMV make no distinction between presyncope and actual syncope. It just took one physician, who himself did not make a report (concerned enough to pressure my primary but not enough to deal with the DMV himself) but contacted my primary care (who had already been working with me, my neurologist, and my recent cardiologist to evaluate my condition), resulting in an immediate license suspension of indeterminate duration by the DMV. Have requested a DMV/Administrative Law hearing, to take place in December. Attorney specializing in license suspension hearings for 30 years stated I did not need his involvement at this time (and said he charges $400/hour, but kindly provided pro bono initial phone consultation). DMV, with one brief exception, has been totally bureaucratic and cold as ice with my efforts to seek clarifying information. Have been able to secure approval for transportation for local medical appointments only, although, understandably, none available for primary care appointment today, during Thanksgiving week, since they're all volunteers. And since I'm in small town America, some of my specialist appointments are 3 - 5 hours away. No other local support available - buses only run M-F on limited schedules and routes, so I have predominantly been on foot. Have been learning along the way...takes longer for seniors to walk, especially in the cold and rain...homeless folks, also on foot, have been sources of concern and kindness...accessible restrooms are few when you appear to be homeless...hardly any benches for those on foot to rest...limited resources if you're just above low income...may have to pay for medical records and physician testimonies to advocate for myself...possibly higher car insurance costs...have to pay reinstatement fees...prescriptions may be advised but unaffordable, due to all of these expenses...cab fares can add up...etc.
Anyway, you might try contacting California Driver Advocates. They are less costly than attorneys and only do drivers license defenses. And, FYI, DMV can suspend first, seek medical clarification later.
Hope this last resource is helpful.

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Good afternoon Tatiana987,
You have my compassion, as I just began my license suspension on 11/9/25, after having tried to be proactive about my health for a few years, due to vasovagal presyncopal episodes, although some in the medical community and the DMV make no distinction between presyncope and actual syncope. It just took one physician, who himself did not make a report (concerned enough to pressure my primary but not enough to deal with the DMV himself) but contacted my primary care (who had already been working with me, my neurologist, and my recent cardiologist to evaluate my condition), resulting in an immediate license suspension of indeterminate duration by the DMV. Have requested a DMV/Administrative Law hearing, to take place in December. Attorney specializing in license suspension hearings for 30 years stated I did not need his involvement at this time (and said he charges $400/hour, but kindly provided pro bono initial phone consultation). DMV, with one brief exception, has been totally bureaucratic and cold as ice with my efforts to seek clarifying information. Have been able to secure approval for transportation for local medical appointments only, although, understandably, none available for primary care appointment today, during Thanksgiving week, since they're all volunteers. And since I'm in small town America, some of my specialist appointments are 3 - 5 hours away. No other local support available - buses only run M-F on limited schedules and routes, so I have predominantly been on foot. Have been learning along the way...takes longer for seniors to walk, especially in the cold and rain...homeless folks, also on foot, have been sources of concern and kindness...accessible restrooms are few when you appear to be homeless...hardly any benches for those on foot to rest...limited resources if you're just above low income...may have to pay for medical records and physician testimonies to advocate for myself...possibly higher car insurance costs...have to pay reinstatement fees...prescriptions may be advised but unaffordable, due to all of these expenses...cab fares can add up...etc.
Anyway, you might try contacting California Driver Advocates. They are less costly than attorneys and only do drivers license defenses. And, FYI, DMV can suspend first, seek medical clarification later.
Hope this last resource is helpful.

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@cherylkolevzon,
What a terrible situation for you not being able to drive! They certainly weren't considerate towards your situation either. I'm 79 and have to take an eye exam since I wear glasses in order to renew my driver's license. I worry about their exam. I see fine with my glasses but I do know that they don't like older people driving so I just wonder? However, I will pray about it and will probably pass the eye exam. If I don't that doesn't mean I will stop driving my car even though it would be illegal to do that. What else can you do? I can't afford cabs and with all the homeless and criminals around it's not safe to walk as you mentioned. If you drive at times when there isn't much traffic like early AM and drive safely following all laws it should be OK. Also only drive when you really have to. Even with my legal license I now only drive to the doctor, grocery store, gas station and sometimes the bank. I don't think they'd even notice I was driving without a license. But I don't want to do that. I'd rather be legal.
I hope things work out better for you. I'll say a prayer for you.
I wish you the best.
PML

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