Anxiety: bouts of nervousness, dry flushing and nausea

Posted by annedodrill44 @annedodrill44, Jan 16, 2018

I have been experiencing intense bouts of nervousness, dry flushing and nausea for months. These “spells” come on quickly and pass quickly. They happen a few times a week, which doesn’t sound like a big deal. But this feeling is so frightening! I’ve had heart, blood and urine testing. Everything comes back “normal”. I am a fit 70-year-old woman, so I can’t blame this on hormones! I’ll be at Mayo for my annual physical next month thank goodness. If my symptoms have a name, they’ll know it!! In the meantime, I’d appreciate hearing from anyone who has similar issues!

Hi, @pjss48 – I moved your post to this discussion on anxiety so that you can interact with others who have talked about similar issues.

I also find it so frustrating when I forget where I put something or can't remember something. Sounds like your husband was very gracious about the item that couldn't be found.

Hoping that @mamacita @johnhans @annedodrill44 @kdo0827 @peach414144 and others in this discussion will return and have some thoughts for you about having either a panic attack or anxiety attack.

What kinds of symptoms were you experiencing, @pjss48, when you had the attack you are talking about?

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@annedodrill44

We are the same age, so I recognize the thoughts of our own deaths. I also found that embracing those thoughts and other feelings of fear helps to dissipate the anxiety. Acceptance of the finite reality of life takes time and patience. In my case, I had the "good luck" of having a near death experience after a car accident when I was 35 years old. While it was a terrible accident and I had to be cut out of the car with the jaws of life, I learned from it. I am pretty sure I died briefly and then had one of those experiences others talk about. One moment I was here and the next I wasn't. I didn't know I "wasn't" until later. I wasn't afraid, nor did I physically feel anything. What I "remember" is floating in a "waiting" state, looking forward seeing a bright light seeping around a dark round door. I was waiting to be let through the door. Instead, I began hearing a voice saying, "lady, are you Ok?" It was repeated several times, becoming louder each time, then I opened my eyes. I was quite injured, and in great pain when I became conscious.

After my experience, I no longer have a fear of dying. I wasn't ready to go when I was young, but even then I didn't fear it. I still don't fear death. I'm not religious in any way, so that helps me accept death as part of life, without judgement. I know my body is wearing down and not reproducing cells the way it did when I was young, and I can accept this slow deterioration process. Someone once told me, we've been getting older since the day we were born, and that helped me to better accept aging. In fact, I am more fearful of my husband dying before me and continuing to live without my best friend, love, and lifetime companion. I will deal with that when the time comes. I live my life with conviction, action, and kindness. I hope I leave the earth and my family and friends in a better place for having known me.

I hope my experience with near death is helpful for all who read it here. This didn't stop my panic attacks though. I only stopped having them after I started taking Citalopram when I was 63 years old. I no longer have panic, which I now believe was a function of the wrong brain chemistry. I was in talk therapy for over 20 years, and although I learned A LOT through that, I was never able to get rid of the panic attacks. Embracing them at the time, was the only thing that helped dissipate the feelings. I'm hoping that you find peace and relief for your anxiety and panic in whatever way works best for you. Gentle hugs for you.

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@merpreb

Oh my goodness @annedodrill44 that is an extreme. Has it worked at all? Is death a prominent thought and the feeling of fear and dread? Do you have an illness that you haven't written about quiet? After each of my lung cancers I had obsessive thoughts about my own death.

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@merry – no I have no diagnosed illness, but my anxiety attacks are so strong that I really do feel like a stroke or death is imminent. If I get really upset during the attack, it gets worse and hangs on longer. If I give in to it and say”who cares what happens”, it seems to go away faster. Beats me why!

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@gailb

@annedodrill44

We are the same age, so I recognize the thoughts of our own deaths. I also found that embracing those thoughts and other feelings of fear helps to dissipate the anxiety. Acceptance of the finite reality of life takes time and patience. In my case, I had the "good luck" of having a near death experience after a car accident when I was 35 years old. While it was a terrible accident and I had to be cut out of the car with the jaws of life, I learned from it. I am pretty sure I died briefly and then had one of those experiences others talk about. One moment I was here and the next I wasn't. I didn't know I "wasn't" until later. I wasn't afraid, nor did I physically feel anything. What I "remember" is floating in a "waiting" state, looking forward seeing a bright light seeping around a dark round door. I was waiting to be let through the door. Instead, I began hearing a voice saying, "lady, are you Ok?" It was repeated several times, becoming louder each time, then I opened my eyes. I was quite injured, and in great pain when I became conscious.

After my experience, I no longer have a fear of dying. I wasn't ready to go when I was young, but even then I didn't fear it. I still don't fear death. I'm not religious in any way, so that helps me accept death as part of life, without judgement. I know my body is wearing down and not reproducing cells the way it did when I was young, and I can accept this slow deterioration process. Someone once told me, we've been getting older since the day we were born, and that helped me to better accept aging. In fact, I am more fearful of my husband dying before me and continuing to live without my best friend, love, and lifetime companion. I will deal with that when the time comes. I live my life with conviction, action, and kindness. I hope I leave the earth and my family and friends in a better place for having known me.

I hope my experience with near death is helpful for all who read it here. This didn't stop my panic attacks though. I only stopped having them after I started taking Citalopram when I was 63 years old. I no longer have panic, which I now believe was a function of the wrong brain chemistry. I was in talk therapy for over 20 years, and although I learned A LOT through that, I was never able to get rid of the panic attacks. Embracing them at the time, was the only thing that helped dissipate the feelings. I'm hoping that you find peace and relief for your anxiety and panic in whatever way works best for you. Gentle hugs for you.

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Gail, you are a very talented mentor, and I so appreciate the benefit of your experience! We can all learn from you. Thank you for your support!

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@lisalucier

Hi, @pjss48 – I moved your post to this discussion on anxiety so that you can interact with others who have talked about similar issues.

I also find it so frustrating when I forget where I put something or can't remember something. Sounds like your husband was very gracious about the item that couldn't be found.

Hoping that @mamacita @johnhans @annedodrill44 @kdo0827 @peach414144 and others in this discussion will return and have some thoughts for you about having either a panic attack or anxiety attack.

What kinds of symptoms were you experiencing, @pjss48, when you had the attack you are talking about?

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My heart was beating real fast, was extremely nervous, upset at myself, I couldn't think right

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@annedodrill44

@merry – no I have no diagnosed illness, but my anxiety attacks are so strong that I really do feel like a stroke or death is imminent. If I get really upset during the attack, it gets worse and hangs on longer. If I give in to it and say”who cares what happens”, it seems to go away faster. Beats me why!

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@annedodrill44– I'm very glad that you aren't ill. Anxiety attacks and I go way back. I think that mine was triggered when I went to a University in CO and experienced incredible homesickness. After I flew back home I woke up next day and started gagging- or dry heaving. And for several years woke up every morning like that. I started splashing my face with cold water every morning and that would break it up, and if I was near a faucet when I was out and about I'd do the same thing.
When I went to a local University in RI I had to commute from Providence- About 45 minutes away. I drove down RT 95 dry heaving all the way on to campus.
Not that you have to have a major event in your life but mine went away after my first lobectomy. The fear of dying from cancer seemed to put things is a more realistic light. I'm not so much afraid of dying as I am of suffering. I don't want to die and after 3 more lung cancers I think about it, of course.

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@annedodrill44

Thank you.

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@pjss48 Don't beat yourself up I do this all the time Breath deeply try to calm down it will get better a good friend told me this .Sit down and breath let it go don't dwell on .If this happens once in awhile don't worry. Be safe

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@merpreb

@annedodrill44– I'm very glad that you aren't ill. Anxiety attacks and I go way back. I think that mine was triggered when I went to a University in CO and experienced incredible homesickness. After I flew back home I woke up next day and started gagging- or dry heaving. And for several years woke up every morning like that. I started splashing my face with cold water every morning and that would break it up, and if I was near a faucet when I was out and about I'd do the same thing.
When I went to a local University in RI I had to commute from Providence- About 45 minutes away. I drove down RT 95 dry heaving all the way on to campus.
Not that you have to have a major event in your life but mine went away after my first lobectomy. The fear of dying from cancer seemed to put things is a more realistic light. I'm not so much afraid of dying as I am of suffering. I don't want to die and after 3 more lung cancers I think about it, of course.

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@merpreb , @gailb I'm so impressed with you ladies have gone through Glad I heard your stories Thank you. What I went through seems so trivial.I did have an out of body experience that was thrilling ,since I was driving at the time.

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@lioness Thank you. Everyone's experience is very personal and a big deal to them. Don't compare because that minimizes you. Your experience, how you handle it is no more or less than anyone else.

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@merpreb

@annedodrill44– I'm very glad that you aren't ill. Anxiety attacks and I go way back. I think that mine was triggered when I went to a University in CO and experienced incredible homesickness. After I flew back home I woke up next day and started gagging- or dry heaving. And for several years woke up every morning like that. I started splashing my face with cold water every morning and that would break it up, and if I was near a faucet when I was out and about I'd do the same thing.
When I went to a local University in RI I had to commute from Providence- About 45 minutes away. I drove down RT 95 dry heaving all the way on to campus.
Not that you have to have a major event in your life but mine went away after my first lobectomy. The fear of dying from cancer seemed to put things is a more realistic light. I'm not so much afraid of dying as I am of suffering. I don't want to die and after 3 more lung cancers I think about it, of course.

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Thank you for responding, Merry. Tell me about your lobotomy! Is that an option for me? Does it really cure anxiety? If so, I’m asking for one!

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@annedodrill44– I'd like to invite @grannynacky to join this discussion.
I've had 2 lobectomies for lung cancer. I'm sorry that I confused this issue. Lobectomies remove a lung lobe mainly because of cancer.
Anxiety attacks are triggered by something in your past that makes you feel very uncomfortable, maybe threatened or long buried in your mind. When adrenaline floods your body at the onset there are a lot of chemical changes that take place setting off a lot of physical reactions, like you had.
Here are some links that explains anxiety attacks, palpitations,…
Flushing can be caused by a number of things. Have you had any blood work?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-palpitations/symptoms-causes/syc-20373196
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/panic-attacks/symptoms-causes/syc-20376021
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/generalized-anxiety-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20360803
Keep me posted!

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@merpreb

@annedodrill44– I'd like to invite @grannynacky to join this discussion.
I've had 2 lobectomies for lung cancer. I'm sorry that I confused this issue. Lobectomies remove a lung lobe mainly because of cancer.
Anxiety attacks are triggered by something in your past that makes you feel very uncomfortable, maybe threatened or long buried in your mind. When adrenaline floods your body at the onset there are a lot of chemical changes that take place setting off a lot of physical reactions, like you had.
Here are some links that explains anxiety attacks, palpitations,…
Flushing can be caused by a number of things. Have you had any blood work?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-palpitations/symptoms-causes/syc-20373196
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/panic-attacks/symptoms-causes/syc-20376021
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/generalized-anxiety-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20360803
Keep me posted!

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Merry, thank you for responding and for sharing your experience. Oh yes, I’ve had plenty of blood work (all normal) and am scheduled for my annual physical at Mayo in March. Will let you all know if I learn anything new about treatment for anxiety!

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@annedodrill44

Merry, thank you for responding and for sharing your experience. Oh yes, I’ve had plenty of blood work (all normal) and am scheduled for my annual physical at Mayo in March. Will let you all know if I learn anything new about treatment for anxiety!

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I have an important update for all of you! A physician who has spent 4 years researching what is known as the “gut-brain axis” tells me he is convinced that anxiety, depression, and illness in general, does NOT stem from the brain but from the gut. If crucial microbes are depleted or off balance in the gut, you will be ill. He recommends a probiotic with the highest number of Lactobacillis you can find — I got mine at Costco and it’s called Trunature.
So I now eat yogurt for breakfast, have a cup of Kefir in the afternoon, and take the probiotic capsule following dinner. It is not recommended to take a probiotic on an empty stomach, or in the morning when most people take other meds.
After I added the above to my diet, I felt considerably better within a few days. Am I perfectly well? No. Uneasiness is my companion. But I have not had an anxiety attack in 2 weeks. For me, that’s improvement! Try this safe, relatively inexpensive, easy approach, and see if it helps you. Then let us know. Peace to all!

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@annedodrill44

I have an important update for all of you! A physician who has spent 4 years researching what is known as the “gut-brain axis” tells me he is convinced that anxiety, depression, and illness in general, does NOT stem from the brain but from the gut. If crucial microbes are depleted or off balance in the gut, you will be ill. He recommends a probiotic with the highest number of Lactobacillis you can find — I got mine at Costco and it’s called Trunature.
So I now eat yogurt for breakfast, have a cup of Kefir in the afternoon, and take the probiotic capsule following dinner. It is not recommended to take a probiotic on an empty stomach, or in the morning when most people take other meds.
After I added the above to my diet, I felt considerably better within a few days. Am I perfectly well? No. Uneasiness is my companion. But I have not had an anxiety attack in 2 weeks. For me, that’s improvement! Try this safe, relatively inexpensive, easy approach, and see if it helps you. Then let us know. Peace to all!

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@annedodrill44 I just read an article about leaky gut in connection with other problems . In the past I did use Lactobacilis and don't remember how I felt but was thinking about trying it again. I think I will but take notice of how I fell this time with it. Thanks for the info.

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