Alternatives for pain management

Posted by grandmaR @grandmar, Mar 31, 2018

Hello!
I was wondering if anyone tried cryo therapy or medical marijuana for pain management. If you did, how did they/it work?
Thanks
Ronnie (GRANDMAr)

@grandmar Thanks for sharing. The only one of the 6 I can do is boost my immune system by eating healthy. This grandma cannot attend things with my grandchildren. At least I can still take care of myself and not be a burden on my children. This is an accomplishment!!! May not have lots of money or material things, but I have a lot of love.
I keep reading about how others are upset because they cannot get the pain meds they need. I am thankful I did NOT get them as I have seen the suffering of many no longer getting them. Hard to miss something I have not had…
I believe we all do the best we can and in some cases the best we know how…As for me my little self I do the best I can.
I do still plant some flowers as they brighten my patio. The hummingbirds are happy and so am I.
Some of what greets me in the morning.
Anyone reading thus have a blessed day. Each day I am alive is a blessing for me.

patio flowers 5

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@parus

@grandmar Thanks for sharing. The only one of the 6 I can do is boost my immune system by eating healthy. This grandma cannot attend things with my grandchildren. At least I can still take care of myself and not be a burden on my children. This is an accomplishment!!! May not have lots of money or material things, but I have a lot of love.
I keep reading about how others are upset because they cannot get the pain meds they need. I am thankful I did NOT get them as I have seen the suffering of many no longer getting them. Hard to miss something I have not had…
I believe we all do the best we can and in some cases the best we know how…As for me my little self I do the best I can.
I do still plant some flowers as they brighten my patio. The hummingbirds are happy and so am I.
Some of what greets me in the morning.
Anyone reading thus have a blessed day. Each day I am alive is a blessing for me.

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@parus Im glad you can still see and hear the humming birds IN Pa I had A mobile home and had feeders also bird and for hummingbirds I so enjoyed them but I live in a sr. building now without grass or birds that I use to see the Robins, blue jays red birds, and warblers but I do have birds here that greet me in morning to am thankful for them. One thing we all have is our memory banks to rely on and remember how it was . I had 3 acres a garden and I canned I don't do as much canning anymore but do put some vegetable soup up at times. Yes am thankful for getting up in morning and able to do what I can. This overshadows the pain. have a great day Linda

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@parus

@grandmar Thanks for sharing. The only one of the 6 I can do is boost my immune system by eating healthy. This grandma cannot attend things with my grandchildren. At least I can still take care of myself and not be a burden on my children. This is an accomplishment!!! May not have lots of money or material things, but I have a lot of love.
I keep reading about how others are upset because they cannot get the pain meds they need. I am thankful I did NOT get them as I have seen the suffering of many no longer getting them. Hard to miss something I have not had…
I believe we all do the best we can and in some cases the best we know how…As for me my little self I do the best I can.
I do still plant some flowers as they brighten my patio. The hummingbirds are happy and so am I.
Some of what greets me in the morning.
Anyone reading thus have a blessed day. Each day I am alive is a blessing for me.

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@parus I don't have any hummers right now as my feeder broke and I cannot afford to replace it. My other feeders have been attracting cardinals and red wing blackbirds. Do you enjoy the songbirds?
I can identify some birds by their song!

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@parus

We just moved to an new home on Hawkeye Ridge Circle in southern California. Guess what we see everyday here? Lots of hawks, huge crows, and many small birds who chatter up a storm. There are also many hummingbirds. I love watching them flitter about the flowers. They are so pretty and swift. Our kitties love watching them also, but thankfully they're too old to actually catch them. I'll be learning more about the different birds here as we settle in to the new home. I do find that watching the birds and being outside in the natural, peaceful environment reduces my anxiety and increases my joy. I am planning where to plant my current gardenia (my favorite flower), huge split leaf philodandrum, and beautiful pink double camellia here. They are in planters currently, so I want to put them in the ground here. I just hope they survive until I can get it done.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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I find when I can be outside doing anything it reduces my anxiety unless I let myself get crabby because I can do so little (key words there our "let myself") it may be the pain, which is the easiest to work thru or the inability to breathe a little tougher to ignore lol on a good day I will be out as long as I can stand. I am so lucky !!!!! We live about 10 miles outside a town of only 10,000 but it still has 5 recreational lakes WITHIN the city limits! Our home is on a smaller lake which is mostly used by the people (10) living on it. It is close to heaven. Years ago I started expanding the flower gardens, still need one more for the youngest grandchild and as hard as it can be to maintain they bring me joy. My husband doesn't really care about the flower gardens but knowing how much they mean to me he has really helped out A LOT. He also expanded the veggies and grew a 200lb pumpkin last year. He has built a tree house that I still have not seen since he finished the enterior but I have seen pic and it rivals the ones you see on TV only a bit smaller. So far haven't been able to make the climb but I will soon. He is so proud of it he picked all the furniture and décor with only a tiny bit of help from me. except for plumbing it could be a guest room in the sky !!! LOL and he is trying to solve the plumbing (mostly for the female guests ) Speaking of being outside I need to run into town to pick up a few plants and get them in before it rains. Hope everyone as a great day !!!

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I'm SO glad for you and the fact that you are able to "work thru the pain"!!! Unfortunately, my hobbies, including gardening, my 30 + house plants, chores like sweeping,mopping, that side to side motion, bending, stooping, lifting any size bag of trash, even picking up something causes my pain. Which feels like a concrete block sewn in to the middle of my back. But enough whining!!! I'm thrilled for you and that you have someone close who understands!!! Cudos for you. Your words, you, set an example that it can be done!! Thank you..for welcome g me into your group. I realizeI am not alone.

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@gailb

@parus

We just moved to an new home on Hawkeye Ridge Circle in southern California. Guess what we see everyday here? Lots of hawks, huge crows, and many small birds who chatter up a storm. There are also many hummingbirds. I love watching them flitter about the flowers. They are so pretty and swift. Our kitties love watching them also, but thankfully they're too old to actually catch them. I'll be learning more about the different birds here as we settle in to the new home. I do find that watching the birds and being outside in the natural, peaceful environment reduces my anxiety and increases my joy. I am planning where to plant my current gardenia (my favorite flower), huge split leaf philodandrum, and beautiful pink double camellia here. They are in planters currently, so I want to put them in the ground here. I just hope they survive until I can get it done.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@gailb sounds lovely Im not sure where that is but Im going to look it up enjoy your new home its always exciting to move in and plan a garden. In Pa the gardenia was a bush not a tree like there are here , so many diff. trees here and flowers then back east. Its amazing what God has painted everywhere the desert is so different also. I do miss the beautiful birds your right the pigeons,crows, hawks not like the beautiful colored birds I have been use to all mylife although on the roof one day I saw a golden eagle it was beautiful it was so close I could see the veins in the feathers. enjoy your new home Linda

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@tennessegirl Hi Im from Pa. lived there all my life till I lost my husband ,son out here so wanted to be near his family. So diff. out here the trees ,flowers birds not like back east but up on the roof of my sr. apt building I did something I never saw back east and it was a golden eagle beautiful. Im use to SOCAL now after 7 yrs. This is a good group glad to have you

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@lioness

@tennessegirl Hi Im from Pa. lived there all my life till I lost my husband ,son out here so wanted to be near his family. So diff. out here the trees ,flowers birds not like back east but up on the roof of my sr. apt building I did something I never saw back east and it was a golden eagle beautiful. Im use to SOCAL now after 7 yrs. This is a good group glad to have you

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I lost my husband too 3 years ago. Still feels like yesterday.

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@parus

@grandmar Thanks for sharing. The only one of the 6 I can do is boost my immune system by eating healthy. This grandma cannot attend things with my grandchildren. At least I can still take care of myself and not be a burden on my children. This is an accomplishment!!! May not have lots of money or material things, but I have a lot of love.
I keep reading about how others are upset because they cannot get the pain meds they need. I am thankful I did NOT get them as I have seen the suffering of many no longer getting them. Hard to miss something I have not had…
I believe we all do the best we can and in some cases the best we know how…As for me my little self I do the best I can.
I do still plant some flowers as they brighten my patio. The hummingbirds are happy and so am I.
Some of what greets me in the morning.
Anyone reading thus have a blessed day. Each day I am alive is a blessing for me.

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@sandytoes You bet I enjoy songbirds and all other birds!!! Sorry about your hummer feeder. I have had the same one for 10+ years and paid $5 for it. I so enjoy the early morning predawn listening to the birds wake up-The Robins are the neighborhood wake-caller's. I don't have much cover for birds, but still have a large variety of woodpeckers and song birds as well as a pair of Red Shoulder Hawks. Yes, an avid birder just no longer traveling to do so. Right now the House Wrens have young. How a bird so small as the Wren can have such a big voice still amazes me. The Cornell University site is my favorite. Good way to learn the calls/songs of birds.

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@gailb

For those who are interested in using CBD as a pain reliever, here are two websites that provide excellent quality products and one has an extensive educational programs that are free. One series of education helps each person determine their own dosage for their problems.

1. http://www.cbdlivingwater.org — has good products. I used the Living Water to help me withdraw from Tramadol.

2. https://mjstherapeutics.org — this is where I purchased my CBD Daily tincture. It's an excellent quality product and they have others you can order online.

3. https://healer.com/about-us/ educational programs. I need to take their education programs and determine the correct dosage for my arthritis and radiculopathy pain.

These are good sites with reliable products and information. I have tested these links now and they work.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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Gail, thank you so much for posting this information. I've already been in touch with the first two. Wish me luck?

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We are moving to a new home. My husband's health is declining. We are moving to a Christian Retirement Community where we will be able to stay the rest of our lives. Will have an independent Cottage Apartment as long as we are able to stay in it, then they have assisted living, then mental health, and nursing care. All sorts of things to do including dining, exercise, swimming, gardening, hiking, crafts and sweet peace. I'm 86 and ready to totally relax. Think it's about time. God is good to us and has always been my answer. 🙂

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@liz223

We are moving to a new home. My husband's health is declining. We are moving to a Christian Retirement Community where we will be able to stay the rest of our lives. Will have an independent Cottage Apartment as long as we are able to stay in it, then they have assisted living, then mental health, and nursing care. All sorts of things to do including dining, exercise, swimming, gardening, hiking, crafts and sweet peace. I'm 86 and ready to totally relax. Think it's about time. God is good to us and has always been my answer. 🙂

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Liz. My hope in times of trouble…I am 76 and not quite ready for Independent living in community. I also don't think I can afford

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@tennessegirl

I'm SO glad for you and the fact that you are able to "work thru the pain"!!! Unfortunately, my hobbies, including gardening, my 30 + house plants, chores like sweeping,mopping, that side to side motion, bending, stooping, lifting any size bag of trash, even picking up something causes my pain. Which feels like a concrete block sewn in to the middle of my back. But enough whining!!! I'm thrilled for you and that you have someone close who understands!!! Cudos for you. Your words, you, set an example that it can be done!! Thank you..for welcome g me into your group. I realizeI am not alone.

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@tennessegirl I can relate to your pain and it IS NOT WHINING and you forgot vacuuming. I am sometimes not to smart and work to the point I can't get thru the pain and literally sit on my hands and knees in the dirt wondering "How am I going to get up?" and if no one is around I just sit there until I can push myself up but no one is there I don't have to admit how foolish I was. My family (son and daughter in-law) can get so overprotective otherwise.
And you are right it can be done, not pain free by any stretch but pain bearable. Do I sometimes pay a high price for the things I push myself to do? YES but to keep a small part of my old self and what I enjoyed it is worth every tear. and as I said you are right it can be done because you are doing it also every day showing your strength just because you got thru it and will get thru it again tomorrow.

Sorry I tend to ramble

All my prayers and hopes will be with you every day

Allison.

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The article below is copied from the NORML newsletter. I thought it might be helpful for some members. Gail, Volunteer Mentor

Patients Replace Opioids With Cannabis
Thursday, 07 June 2018

Chronic Pain Patients Replace Opioids With Cannabis
Cleveland, OH: More than two-thirds of chronic pain patients registered to legally access medical cannabis products substitute marijuana for prescription opioids, according to data published in The Journal of Headache and Pain.

Investigators from the United States and Canada assessed the use of medical cannabis and prescription drugs in a cohort of over 2,000 Canadian patients licensed to access marijuana products. Among those patients with a primary diagnosis of chronic pain, 73 percent reported substituting cannabis in place of opioids. Among those patients diagnosed specifically with headache/migraine, cannabis was frequently reported as a substitute for other medications – including opiates (43 percent), anti-depressants (39 percent), NSAIDS (21 percent), triptans (8 percent), and anti-convulsants (8 percent).

"Most patients in the pain groups reported replacing prescription medications with medicinal cannabis, the most common of which were opiates/opioids across all patient groups," authors concluded. "This is notable given the well-described 'opioid-sparing effect' of cannabinoids and growing abundance of literature suggesting that cannabis may help in weaning from these medications and perhaps providing a means of combating the opioid epidemic."

For more information, contact Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director, at: paul@norml.org. Full text of the study, "Patterns of medicinal cannabis use, strain analysis, and substitution effect among patients with migraine, headache, arthritis, and chronic pain in a medicinal cannabis cohort," appears in The Journal of Headache and Pain. NORML's fact-sheet highlighting the relevant, peer-reviewed research specific to the relationship between cannabis and opioids is available online.

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