ALTERNATIVES FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT

Posted by grandmaR @grandmar, Mar 31, 2018

Hello!
I was wondering if anyone tried cryo therapy or medical marijuana for pain management. If you did, how did they/it work?
Thanks
Ronnie (GRANDMAr)

@lisalucier

Hi, @grandmar — sounds like you are in a lot of pain, and I'm sorry to hear that.

We definitely have some members who have tried some alternatives for pain management — cryotherapy, medical marijuana or other remedies. I'd like to invite some of them to come talk about how they worked, like @jimhd @cdcc @paladin121 @rmeddings @leh09 @allisonsnow @lauren123 @marield65 @virtuous69 @ayankeeinnm @jenapower. @sandytoes14 may also have some thoughts for you.

@grandmar — have you tried any alternative pain therapies? If so, how did they go for you?

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It too have tried all that you have tried multiple times. My spine is in such bad shape from top to bottom. I have had lumbar surgery 2x and kypoplastic in the thoracic area. I also have 3 compression fractures in the thoracic area and two in the lower along with degeneration and more, you name it, I've got it. I have been told I wouldn't find a surgeon who would operate. I don't like the affect that pain meds have on me. But the CBD is not legal in my state! I would be wiling to try almost anything.

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@jimhd

Right now, the pain that I'm dealing with is peripheral neuropathy pain in my feet. I tried without success every medication for neuropathy pain, as well as a number of other meds not specifically for neuropathy. I was happy if all they did was nothing. So many of them had side effects from minor to serious enough to be hospitalized. I had a spinal cord stimulator implant in June of last year and the pain was greatly reduced, but not eliminated. Over the past few months, I believe that the neuropathy is progressing, and along with that the pain. I take morphine sulfate contin, which is the only thing that has ever helped, along with Meloxicam and NSAIDS.

I've tried marijuana, which is legal here in Oregon, but it didn't help with the pain, and is too expensive. I have prescription lidocaine cream that I put on my feet to numb the pain. That gives me short term relief. Capzasin cream is said to help with nerve pain, but it didn't help me. My sister is sending me a spray that she has found very effective for pain control. I tend to be quite skeptical about anything that purports to be a miracle cure. But I'm willing to give things a try.

I'm looking forward to seeing what others have to say in this discussion.

Jim

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@jimhd I too suffer from the neuropathy pain in my feet. I have found that to stand or walk on concrete floors,such as the grocery stores, makes things so much worse by evening, when mine is at it’s worst.Also, I have found that a pair of the original sheepskin lined short boots with no socks is the most helpful footwear that I can wear. My feet are always hot at night when the pain level is going up and I cool them down with cool air from the window or with an icepack ( one of the soft mud-filled ones). Before the cooling part,I give them a massage using a thick ointment that stays on being sure to cover every inch of my feet and ankles.(Cerave healing ointment is the one I use). Just a few thoughts. I think that good rest is so very important to us, so whatever is comforting to you will help at bedtime. For me it is prayer and scripture that i memorized as a young child. A favorite old movie on very quietly can also help to fall asleep as well as soft music. Here’s to less foot pain!

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Happy Friday,
Just wanted to share an article with you.

Here is the link:
http://dailyorganicrecipes.com/prescription-painkiller-tramadol-claiming-more-lives-than-any-other-drug/?t=simlife
I have tried Oxy and Hydro and neither works. When I had a tooth ache and extensive work done, I was given Tramadol.
Not only did the Tramadol help my mouth, but it worked wonders on my back. Guess because it was new to my system.

Anyway, I personally believe that unless you have an allergy or you are taking a med that does not mix well with Tramadol, or you have an ailment that does not react well to the med, we should be fine.

I dislike the way this article slants the information. It makes us sound like we are junkies taking these drugs for some sort of high.

I think we are smart enough to know that if we take too much of the meds, not follow the instructions, mix it with other drugs or alcohol, we could be in horrible trouble.

Just saying!!

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@grandmar

Happy Friday,
Just wanted to share an article with you.

Here is the link:
http://dailyorganicrecipes.com/prescription-painkiller-tramadol-claiming-more-lives-than-any-other-drug/?t=simlife
I have tried Oxy and Hydro and neither works. When I had a tooth ache and extensive work done, I was given Tramadol.
Not only did the Tramadol help my mouth, but it worked wonders on my back. Guess because it was new to my system.

Anyway, I personally believe that unless you have an allergy or you are taking a med that does not mix well with Tramadol, or you have an ailment that does not react well to the med, we should be fine.

I dislike the way this article slants the information. It makes us sound like we are junkies taking these drugs for some sort of high.

I think we are smart enough to know that if we take too much of the meds, not follow the instructions, mix it with other drugs or alcohol, we could be in horrible trouble.

Just saying!!

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@grandmar I have been taking Tramadol since 2005 when I fractured my back 6at hat time now 2a day sometimes just 1 it works great for me I think it gets a bad rap from those drugs that people combine with it.You shouldn't combine narcotics with it . Be under the Dr,s care for it.

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For those who are interested in keeping up with developments concerning marijuana, I recommend this group, http://www.norml.org. Their goal is the legalization of Marijuana / Cannabis at the Federal Government level. They have good up to date information on their site. You can join the organization if you want.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@grandmar

Happy Friday,
Just wanted to share an article with you.

Here is the link:
http://dailyorganicrecipes.com/prescription-painkiller-tramadol-claiming-more-lives-than-any-other-drug/?t=simlife
I have tried Oxy and Hydro and neither works. When I had a tooth ache and extensive work done, I was given Tramadol.
Not only did the Tramadol help my mouth, but it worked wonders on my back. Guess because it was new to my system.

Anyway, I personally believe that unless you have an allergy or you are taking a med that does not mix well with Tramadol, or you have an ailment that does not react well to the med, we should be fine.

I dislike the way this article slants the information. It makes us sound like we are junkies taking these drugs for some sort of high.

I think we are smart enough to know that if we take too much of the meds, not follow the instructions, mix it with other drugs or alcohol, we could be in horrible trouble.

Just saying!!

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@grandmar and @lioness

I also think Tramadol gets a bad rap because people misuse it. I still take 1/2 pill once or twice a day if I'm having pain, which I do on some days. Taking it as needed works for me. It is the only pain pill that works on my pain and doesn't have side effects. Additionally, I have learned that it doesn't lend itself to needing more and more of it. Even though I was addicted to it, and had withdrawal when I began reducing the number of pills per day, I had never increased the number of pills per day during the 1.5 years I took it.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@grandmar

Happy Friday,
Just wanted to share an article with you.

Here is the link:
http://dailyorganicrecipes.com/prescription-painkiller-tramadol-claiming-more-lives-than-any-other-drug/?t=simlife
I have tried Oxy and Hydro and neither works. When I had a tooth ache and extensive work done, I was given Tramadol.
Not only did the Tramadol help my mouth, but it worked wonders on my back. Guess because it was new to my system.

Anyway, I personally believe that unless you have an allergy or you are taking a med that does not mix well with Tramadol, or you have an ailment that does not react well to the med, we should be fine.

I dislike the way this article slants the information. It makes us sound like we are junkies taking these drugs for some sort of high.

I think we are smart enough to know that if we take too much of the meds, not follow the instructions, mix it with other drugs or alcohol, we could be in horrible trouble.

Just saying!!

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Hi Gail, I was put on tramadol when things went south in my body 20 years ago. It was the first pain med the doc. gave me and it helped a lot -And back then they always said it was not a narcotic cause it is synthetic. Now I take hydrocodone and I have tramadol if I have break through pain. But the new docs I see won't prescribe it. And so many dr.s years ago felt it was safe and a great pain drug. The opiod epidemic is taking a toll on legitimate pain sufferers.

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@gailb

For those who are interested in keeping up with developments concerning marijuana, I recommend this group, http://www.norml.org. Their goal is the legalization of Marijuana / Cannabis at the Federal Government level. They have good up to date information on their site. You can join the organization if you want.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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Hi Galib..Thanks for the post http://www.noml.org I came from Oregon (with a Doctors Prescription) from my own doctor and could pick up marijuana 7 days a week. Several forms. I like the oil. I feel so bad for Doxyjune. I take Tramadol, but I try not to take it as frequently as doctor requested. I was also told by her to double my dose. I asked her to rewrite the script increasing the number and she waved it off. So, I have to use it wisely. It is all I have. I did buy Tylonnol and will try that. I see my RA doctor in about three weeks and I am sure she will sign me up for two weeks of Infusion again. THAT really helps. I am seeing a Pain doctor in two weeks. My primary care said for me not to expect any pills. If he cannot inject into my back, he probably will do nothing. I hate to repeat this on here, but she told me that the Pain doctors have finally had the brakes put on. They will more than likely be closing and going into mainstream medicine. I believe they are also qualified as pain mgt during surgery. My Primary doctor said that if he says, I can have a PILL form pain relief, SHE will be disbursing the script. She wants me, as she put it to be honest with her about my pain. She wants my quality of Life to be good, not bad due to pain. I am 76. I doubt I will become a drugee and if I did so what. My mother was in Hospice and they will giving her serious pain meds about every 15 minutes toward the end. I complained to the nurse. She looked at me strange and said. SHE IS DYING. I don't care what the youth has done to ruin our pain management. Most of their parents probably don't even know they use and could care less. This should have been approved for seniors. I am in Remission right now and I am waiting for the other shoe to drop. Have you heard of Kradom? Check it out before it is taken off the market. You don't get it from a doctor. They are private growers. I don't know what country found this drug It grows wild in the rain forest. Once the wealthy found out about it, they surged on the forest to cut it out and bring it home. I saw a special on it about 5 years ago. Just search Kradom on google

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@gailb

For those who are interested in keeping up with developments concerning marijuana, I recommend this group, http://www.norml.org. Their goal is the legalization of Marijuana / Cannabis at the Federal Government level. They have good up to date information on their site. You can join the organization if you want.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@oregongirl I hate these pain shots Just had 2and it took about 3weeks to totally take effect.I called and told nurse she said she left message but never got a call back but know he can't prescribe anything that helps us.So I rely on rubs or Lidocaine patches What are we to do?

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Can't afford patches 200.00 per script. People who use Marijuana are not poor and out of work. If Texas does not get going on this there will be people selling and moving to a nearby state who will approve Marijuana. Can't keep buying my Ra meds. I worked hard for my freedom and. Now 78, I am being told what i can and can't do.

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@oregongirl

Can't afford patches 200.00 per script. People who use Marijuana are not poor and out of work. If Texas does not get going on this there will be people selling and moving to a nearby state who will approve Marijuana. Can't keep buying my Ra meds. I worked hard for my freedom and. Now 78, I am being told what i can and can't do.

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@oregongirl now what you mean.I still have a little bit of cbd oil left I don't think I have the correct one it's 50mg I use it on my knees which helps but my back is another story I found the backbrace that helps me is the one that keeps your body heat in helps the best of all the braces I've tried but rest is the best We work hard all are lives then this is how we are treated makes you mad

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@oregongirl

Can't afford patches 200.00 per script. People who use Marijuana are not poor and out of work. If Texas does not get going on this there will be people selling and moving to a nearby state who will approve Marijuana. Can't keep buying my Ra meds. I worked hard for my freedom and. Now 78, I am being told what i can and can't do.

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@oregongirl I do have a good rheumatologist she can fax over Tramadol 50mg 1every 8hrs but I can take 2for brake through but so far 1does me although occasionally I need 2 in a day I'm lucky she can prescribe but I'm in California

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@oregongirl

Can't afford patches 200.00 per script. People who use Marijuana are not poor and out of work. If Texas does not get going on this there will be people selling and moving to a nearby state who will approve Marijuana. Can't keep buying my Ra meds. I worked hard for my freedom and. Now 78, I am being told what i can and can't do.

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Can I make a suggestion. I fell and crushed my T11 vertebra. They did a proceedure called Kyphoplasty. I immediately could walk again. Left back brace at hospital. Never had to wear it. I keep thinking it WD not work. It did.

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@oregongirl

Can't afford patches 200.00 per script. People who use Marijuana are not poor and out of work. If Texas does not get going on this there will be people selling and moving to a nearby state who will approve Marijuana. Can't keep buying my Ra meds. I worked hard for my freedom and. Now 78, I am being told what i can and can't do.

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@oregongirl never heard of that I,'ll mention it to Dr.I see on Thursday Thanks

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@oregongirl

Can't afford patches 200.00 per script. People who use Marijuana are not poor and out of work. If Texas does not get going on this there will be people selling and moving to a nearby state who will approve Marijuana. Can't keep buying my Ra meds. I worked hard for my freedom and. Now 78, I am being told what i can and can't do.

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@oregongirl I did just read up on it The MRI I just had done showed a bulging disc where the compressed fracture is Going to talk with Dr.about this on Thursday also.I,'ll see what is recommended I'm 75soon 76

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