Stage 3 Kidney Disease and Diet: What can I eat?

Posted by carnes @carnes, Jun 11, 2018

It seems there is very little you can eat that is healthy for the Kidneys. The web site Davida has plenty of food on it but contradicts what other sources say. Anyone know anything for breakfast, lunch and dinner that does not have any sugar or flour bodies the obvious boring or bland foods good for Kidneys and I’m allergic to sugar of any kind of sweetener and flour. Thank you.

@afspouse

I have just been diagnosed the stage3 CDK. I really thought they had made a mistake. Now I face yet another diet. I lost my thyroid 10 years ago to Cancer. I had to have screening after my surgery and before Radiation(oral). I was required to eat No processed foods at all.for 2 weeks. The next diet I was recommended to follow was the Mediterranean diet which in fact described our meals pretty closely And since my body fat disappear quickly and my weight has dropped to 120. I am constantly cold. I have been researching diets for the last few days. And, I'm totally confused. I have also been told Not to take Vitamins of any kind.

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Hi, I was diag. with stage 3 CKD this past summer. Quite a shock and overwhelming because there were no symptoms. However, finding http://www.Davita.com gave me great info as well as recipes and the http://www.kidney school.org also is well worth exploring their learning modules.

Later finding this great support group, along with recipes from kamama94, have provided me the incentive to learn all I can and given me the hope and confidence I dearly needed in the beginning. I did finally get referred to a dietician who gave me a combined diabetes/CKD diet plan…a double whammy. I had to get a doc ref. for ins. but it so simplified my planning I would have gladly pd out of pocket.

My nephrologist told me No Nsaids like Advil or Aleve and to take otc Tylenol. At stage 3 neither pcp nor nephrologist seemed very concerned which greatly concerned me and thus I started my own research. Learning to read my lab values has been very helpful because I can now modify or tweak my diet if certain values prove problematic.

While members here are not doctors and each person is different, we all do understand and can share with and support one another as we learn to travel this new path together. Glad to be welcoming another newbie and hope you'll feel free to post.

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I have stage 3 CKD. what can I do to keep from getting worse – no salt- lots of water but how much? What other foods are forbiden?

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@ripatransone90, the kidneys filter wastes so most renal patients are advised to watch phosphorus, potassium and sodium intake, sometimes protein as well. There are some very good sites on the web about diet and earlier in this thread I posted a kidney-friendly recipe collection. Bear in mind that manufacturers do change ingredients and values from time to time so always read labels. Good luck!

Shared files

draft without sample meals DIABETIC AND RENAL FRIENDLY VEGETARIAN (draft-without-sample-meals-DIABETIC-AND-RENAL-FRIENDLY-VEGETARIAN.pdf)

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To my brothers and sisters on this thread: I'm whiny today. GFR dropped from 32 to 28 and the day after the labs I came down with a severe case of shingles – most pain I've ever felt in my life including kidney stones and childbirth! Neph said I needed to take an antiviral even though it could drop GFR even more. Please send positive vibes that this is temporary! TIA.

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@kamama94

To my brothers and sisters on this thread: I'm whiny today. GFR dropped from 32 to 28 and the day after the labs I came down with a severe case of shingles – most pain I've ever felt in my life including kidney stones and childbirth! Neph said I needed to take an antiviral even though it could drop GFR even more. Please send positive vibes that this is temporary! TIA.

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@kamama94, I am sorry to see that you have been hit with shingles pain and drop in GFR.
You can count on my positive vibes coming thru cyber space. I hope tomorrow is going to begin an improvement how you feel.

Are the antivirals for shingles? or to help the kidneys? or both if these are related? Has your nephrologist said how long until antivirals begin to work?

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@ripatransone90

I have stage 3 CKD. what can I do to keep from getting worse – no salt- lots of water but how much? What other foods are forbiden?

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@ripatransone90 Please consult with your medical team about your dietary instructions. We are all different and our treatment plans need to be different as well. I need extra salt in my diet; most CKD patients need to limit or avoid salt. How much water will also be recommended by your medical team. Most people get enough water by paying attention to their thirst, but with kidney disease we need to watch and measure more closely. I drink about 80 ounces daily, that equals about 2.5 liters and includes all liquids-not just water. Remember there is also fluid in foods. There are many recommendations online, but again, please check with your medical team.

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@rosemarya

@kamama94, I am sorry to see that you have been hit with shingles pain and drop in GFR.
You can count on my positive vibes coming thru cyber space. I hope tomorrow is going to begin an improvement how you feel.

Are the antivirals for shingles? or to help the kidneys? or both if these are related? Has your nephrologist said how long until antivirals begin to work?

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@rosemarya and @kamama94 I believe the antiviral is because shingles is caused by a virus. I am sorry you are miserable. I was not uncomfortable until the nerve twitches started. They were very disconcerting because I never knew when they were going to hit and they always surprised me and made me jerk. I imagine I rather looked like a mad woman at times.

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@ripatransone90

I have stage 3 CKD. what can I do to keep from getting worse – no salt- lots of water but how much? What other foods are forbiden?

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@ripatransone90, Welcome to Mayo Connect. I have located some information about managing CKD and about diet that I want to share.

-Low-phosphorus diet: Helpful for kidney disease?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chronic-kidney-disease/expert-answers/food-and-nutrition/faq-20058408
-Effectively managing chronic kidney disease
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chronic-kidney-disease/multimedia/vid-20209090
When did you learn about the CKD diagnosis? Has your doctor or nephrologist determined an underlying condition that is causing the kidney disease?

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@ripatransone90

I have stage 3 CKD. what can I do to keep from getting worse – no salt- lots of water but how much? What other foods are forbiden?

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@ripatransone90 Welcome to Mayo Connect! There are several people here who can offer you their experiences with kidney disease. Just as @2011panc said, each one of us is different, so get some guidlines from your medical team, then we can help you out further with details. The recipe booklet that @kamama94 put in here is a valuable source of information to help you out.

My story is that I am in stage 3b of kidney disease, due to a very rare kidney issue. I have been able to keep my eGFR between 33 and 38 for over 4 years by following a fairly regimented diet and lifestyle, even though my doctors advised that wasn't necessary. I personally shudder to think where I might be if I hadn't decided to follow that diet and all.

Have the doctors told you what has caused the drop in your kidney function? Possible causes are high blood pressure, diabetes, or polycystic kidney disease. We look forward to hearing from you again, and helping you on your journey.
Ginger

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@kamama94

To my brothers and sisters on this thread: I'm whiny today. GFR dropped from 32 to 28 and the day after the labs I came down with a severe case of shingles – most pain I've ever felt in my life including kidney stones and childbirth! Neph said I needed to take an antiviral even though it could drop GFR even more. Please send positive vibes that this is temporary! TIA.

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@kamama94 Well, dang it! And you have worked so hard! You have to wonder if the drop in eGFR was a symptom of the shingles coming?
Sending out positive vibes and a shoulder to lean on….
Ginger

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@rosemarya

@kamama94, I am sorry to see that you have been hit with shingles pain and drop in GFR.
You can count on my positive vibes coming thru cyber space. I hope tomorrow is going to begin an improvement how you feel.

Are the antivirals for shingles? or to help the kidneys? or both if these are related? Has your nephrologist said how long until antivirals begin to work?

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Antivirals can damage the kidneys but we thought the shingles would do more damage. A rock and a hard place!

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Thanks for everyone's support!

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@kamama94

To my brothers and sisters on this thread: I'm whiny today. GFR dropped from 32 to 28 and the day after the labs I came down with a severe case of shingles – most pain I've ever felt in my life including kidney stones and childbirth! Neph said I needed to take an antiviral even though it could drop GFR even more. Please send positive vibes that this is temporary! TIA.

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Hi, Kamama, Sending you the most gentle cyber hugs and wishing you continued strength as you heal from the incredibly painful shingles and deal with the drop in GFR. Not suggesting the two or connected but wondering if the shingles may have contributed in some way to the GFR. When I am ill, being in the kitchen is the last thing on my "to do list". Hope each day finds you taking great care of yourself and feeling better.

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I thought of this discussion group when I received a notice about this webinar. It is free, and it is online by the National LKidney Fund.

Kidney Chat: Ask A Dietitian
Friday, March 20, 2020 from 1:00pm – 2:00 p.m. EDT
https://www.kidneyfund.org/training/webinars/kidney-chat-ask-a-dietitian.html

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Hi All,
This morning I am thinking about all of you who have been participating in this discussion. You have mentioned and shared about kidney disease, diets, GFR's, shingles, and so many more topics that are affecting your own health journeys. While I am not experiencing kidney disease, I am living with a kidney transplant and I am interested in hearing from you about how you are doing with your dietary needs.

How are you doing? How are you able to manage your numbers during this current era of 'healthy at home' restrictions? What advice do you have for someone who is just beginning their own life with Stage 3 Kidney Disease?

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