3 1/2 years of chronic pain~ Still looking for solutions~please help

Posted by nowforyou @nowforyou, May 19 12:18pm

Do I have Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR)???
Please help if you can...

I was researching Mayo and came across the support groups. I posted on a muscle ache group and someone directed me to this PMR group. I have not heard of PMR before.

I have been fighting symptoms of chronic pain for 3 1/2 years now. Started out of the blue in Jan of 2021 after being SO active in 2020 and walking/hiking 2400 miles. Pain started about the 3rd week of Jan. 2021. Stayed on the couch with heating pad for weeks.

I hurt so bad in my muscles in my neck, shoulders, shoulder blades, mid back, and for the last 2 years, my right arm. (shocks and electrical impulses run down my arm-diagnosed as "frozen shoulder." I have had about 12 or so injections of predisone into my back, shoulders, neck, arm, and hips as well as 4 epidurals into my L5-S1 area of my spine to help with the hip pain. I cannot sleep on my sides anymore for several years. Now diagnosed with sleep apnea because the tissue has "relaxed in the back of my throat." I cannot sit in one place for more than an hour otherwise my muscles ache and burn so badly. I have to pull my arms and shoulders back all the time to try to "reset" the pain. Sometimes, it seems like I cannot possibly hold my head up any more on its own.

For over 3 years, I have had PT, accupuncture, 3 types of trigger point therapy, continous Chiropractic care, xrays of hips and back and neck, heat, cold, natural herbs and remedies, I do yoga 3 times a week, and recently, trying to combat all this pain on my own and losing faith in our doctors, I started weights and eliptical 3 times a week. Also, just to confuse things more, I have had full blown VIRAL Meningitis 9 times since 1986. Each time was confirmed with a spinal tap, and blood work. In hospital for a few days. Can't even get into the infectious disease clinics in our area to try to finally find out why this is happening, so I do not have to go through that anymore.

I have had so many blood tests done. The only one abnormal was the CK 1 month after going off Simvastin. And then my Cortisol level a month ago (see below).

Finally thought of the correlation of myalgia after 7 months on Simvastatin, then discontinued the statin in March of 2021. At that point, finally a CK level was drawn, after one month of being off the statin, and the CK was still elevated.

Now, I still have pain, still have complications of not using my muscles from being in so much pain, and now, have an insufficient Adrenal gland, or Addison's because of the sterioid injections into muscles and hips I received to help alleviate the pain somewhat. The endocrinologist I saw 2 times finally ran some bloodwork and did the "Gold standard" test, ACTH/Cortisol and my cortisol came back extremely low, and even lowered during the test after receiving the IV ACTH. 3.9 and it should be at least 18. The doctor used strong language with me as to how serious this is and that I should go on hydrocortisone daily, however, it does have serious side effects such as diabetes, HBP and weight gain, and that once I have been on it for 2 weeks, I would would have to be on it for life. I went to my PCP and had a 2nd opinion and weighed my options, and couldn't afford natural medicine, and was denied going to Mayo to get to the bottom of this, so after 10 days, finally went on the hydocortisone. One month later, I am self-tapering off the hydrocortisone and going to Zoom with my PC in 3 days. I asked the endocrinologist if we could do a CT scan of the adrenal gland, and she said this is not customary. I have since been told by others, to GET a scan and that one should be done before meds are taken, but that perhaps insurance won't pay, and that's why doc's are saying to just go on hydrocortisone.

I am chasing diagnoses and being farmed out for my care and doctors are not owning it. I am ready to give up again. I get close to giving up after rejection after rejection of my appeal of a referral I got to Mayo in AZ, but insurance won't cover it, even though it will be 11 months before I can see a Neuromuscular specialist where I live in NM. I do not feel that is a reasonable wait.

So much more that I would love to discuss with you and anyone else with similar symptoms. I also had COVID in December, 2023, and a really strange "virus attack my lungs" in November, 2021. Couldn't breathe and was put on oxygen and nebulizer for a few weeks.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the help you may possibly give to me. I am at my wits end.
Kate D.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.

Do you have spine issues?
This muscle thing sounds familiar. I too feel like if I could take heaviness of my head away I could feel better
I do have cervical fusion 5-6. With breakdown above and below? Stay connected

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@vicscats

Do you have spine issues?
This muscle thing sounds familiar. I too feel like if I could take heaviness of my head away I could feel better
I do have cervical fusion 5-6. With breakdown above and below? Stay connected

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Hello and thank you so much for your reply.

I have osteopenia, beginning stages. I've had a lot of neck issues since I was young and I don't know why. I have to get adjusted at the chiropractor pretty much every week otherwise my muscles continue to push my spine out of whack.

I was told that the hip pain and that feeling of electricity going down my legs was due to a fused nerve of l5 and s1. I had epidurals for that in 2014 as well as a few in the past few years and it helps for about a month.

I think my muscles in my neck became very weak and unable to hold it up especially when leaning it backwards, after I was in so much pain in January of 2021 and just was on the couch for months after being so active in 2020. I have to rebuild these muscles and that's what I'm working on now and seems to decrease some of the pain I'm having everywhere.

It's all I can do because it's impossible to work with the doctors in my area, or at least have them work for me. Thanks again for your help. Good luck to you I wish you the best!

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I firmly believe that pain can be an emotion trying to express itself. While I haven't experienced anything comparable to what you're going through, I've found that sitting with both my pain and emotions, allowing them to flow, and breathing into them has been effective for me. Recently, I've incorporated somatic exercises into my routine and have shed many tears, but I also feel more capable of moving my body. I hope this helps you.❣️

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@kmekate707

@nowforyou so sorry to hear of the pain you’re enduring. I relate as I don’t have a diagnosis and also struggle. I understand wanting to know what it is so you can stop throwing darts at what it may be and get the correct treatment. I lean towards PMR or Epstein Barr virus or Ehlers Danlos. There are three phases of the latter, hypermobile, pain and then stiffness. I also wonder if it’s that we have been floxxed with fluorquinolone classes of antibiotics? Such as ciprofloxacin. We may never know.
My niece has Ehlers and it is a hereditary trait and that antibiotic is like an internal bomb to people with that from what I have I have read. The sudden onset for me in 2014 is what trips me out. I went from being in the gym 5 days a week to unable to get off the couch without pain overnight. Am currently getting my medical records to try and see if I was given that med back then. I will be 53 in August if the Lord’s will. So I was 42ish when this started.

Then again it could be from fluoride in our water or toothpaste or the twice a year fluoride treatments I added at the dentist office not knowing it was a neurotoxin? As frustrating as it is we may never know and it may just be a matter of finding what helps with the pain.

I currently take 6000 mg moringa, an aleve one or twice a week, and stretch really good before getting out of bed and try to stay hydrated. Next week I am trying biomagnestism pairing. Yes, I am desperate. I’ve done the massage, acupuncture, PT, trigger point, hot and cold therapy, psychotherapy, cbd, thc, and a slough of supplements, various exercises, diets, prayer and meditation, you name it. This may just be life for me. Prednisone helps immensely but like you am leery; have only taken a couple one week rounds of it. Don’t want it long term.

Good luck to you! 🤗 hang in there.

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@kmekate707 I had symptoms and a diagnosis of PMR following one year of pain and visiting multiple doctors. That was March 2020. I refused prednisone therapy for another 3 and a half years and then I had Covid in July 2023. My CRP was above 130 (which is where it was in 2019) and I could no longer stand the pain. I took steroids for 6 months. It has helped. I did have my endocrinologist help oversee my treatment and I let her advise override the rheumatologist.
I did give up refined sugar which I am sure helps but it is impossible to quantify.

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@arlenedeangelis

I firmly believe that pain can be an emotion trying to express itself. While I haven't experienced anything comparable to what you're going through, I've found that sitting with both my pain and emotions, allowing them to flow, and breathing into them has been effective for me. Recently, I've incorporated somatic exercises into my routine and have shed many tears, but I also feel more capable of moving my body. I hope this helps you.❣️

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Thank you for the information. I also am trying methods similar to yours, such as meditation, yoga, and chanting. Thank you and I wish you the best on your journey! 🙂

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Kate, so sorry you are experiencing all of these symptoms. I developed severe pain out of nowhere in 2021. I was working very long hours caring for Covid patients and also received multiple Covid vaccines. My rheumatologist believes that either the extreme stress or vaccines set off my immune system. Autoimmune reactions are so hard to pin down…why they occur in certain people. Keep fighting for yourself and your heat and glad you’re here♥️

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@cgm

Kate, so sorry you are experiencing all of these symptoms. I developed severe pain out of nowhere in 2021. I was working very long hours caring for Covid patients and also received multiple Covid vaccines. My rheumatologist believes that either the extreme stress or vaccines set off my immune system. Autoimmune reactions are so hard to pin down…why they occur in certain people. Keep fighting for yourself and your heat and glad you’re here♥️

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Good Morning,
Thank you for the information. I'm glad that you are finding some solutions or at least some insight into the pain you are having.

I'm so thankful for everyone in the support groups because it takes so many different people and so many different symptoms and situations to try to pin things down, which is so hard to do like you said. Everyone's symptoms differ. You and I share similar symptoms. I was having long hours and a lot of stress and then the COVID vaccines and then within two weeks my symptoms started. Like I had mentioned before, I was so focused on thinking that being on the statin was the cause and culprit, I didn't think about the vaccine. But none of us really knew did we, of the possibilities of what might happen with the vaccine. Now, there's really nothing they can do about it so no one really wants to consider it, just like the possibility of it being from the statin.

Thank you so much and good luck with your journey, and keep fighting for yourself as well. And I'm glad you're here also! ❤️🪷

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