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Improve bone density and strength without medication?

Posted by plav @plav, Dec 20, 2023

Any luck improving bone density and strength without medication? It seems the medications only mildly help ... and they only help some patients; some studies show the slight improvement in density does not mean quality bone was built. I'm not comfortable with moving forward with the treatments just because "that's what we give patients with osteoporosis". There seems to be no room for education or discussion, or research into actual results or other options.

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gravity3 | @gravity3 | Jan 1 9:00am
In reply to @awfultruth "RJD, I didn't make the post about docs stopping with statins but there are a number..." + (show)
@awfultruth

RJD, I didn't make the post about docs stopping with statins but there are a number of doctors and researchers who believe statins for cardiovascular disease are a big mistake. My favorite person challenging LDL and statins as the origin and cure for CVD is David Diamond. Others include Uffe Ravnskov and Malcom Kendrick. They have books and youtube talks and so forth. They are 3 of the co-authors of a 2018 paper "LDL-C does not cause cardiovascular disease: a comprehensive review of the current literature". The full author list was: Uffe Ravnskov 1, Michel de Lorgeril 2, David M Diamond 3 4, Rokuro Hama 5, Tomohito Hamazaki 6, Björn Hammarskjöld 7, Niamh Hynes 8, Malcolm Kendrick 9, Peter H Langsjoen 10, Luca Mascitelli 11, Kilmer S McCully 12, Harumi Okuyama 13, Paul J Rosch 14, Tore Schersten 15 16, Sherif Sultan 8, Ralf Sundberg 17. So there are doctors and researchers who don't think statins are worth it if you try to balance the small margin of benefits with the side effects that many people have.

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I am on board. I have heard a number of his presentations as well as those of others.

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lynn59 | @lynn59 | Jan 1 10:02am
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@violetangel1111

Thank you for your encouraging post. I have been eating 2 prunes a day for the past year and will increase to 4 a day. You give me hope!

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I’ve started eating 5 prunes per day. Apparently 10 per day is the magic number, but they are too sweet for me to eat that many!!

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melia7 | @melia7 | Jan 1 11:16am
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@susanjane77

Thank you so much for the info. The bone coach program looks great. I used to do yoga but with this info, I will ease back into it as I was always afraid that certain poses would make my back feel worse Thanks again!

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I agree that one has to be careful with yoga poses. I am not sure if it is indicated if one had a disc prolapse as it can be put pressure on the vulnerable site.

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joyboudreau | @joyboudreau | Jan 1 1:45pm
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@melia7

I agree that one has to be careful with yoga poses. I am not sure if it is indicated if one had a disc prolapse as it can be put pressure on the vulnerable site.

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I am not disregarding being careful - I’ve actually deleted all my programs off my devices that are not really well documented to be experts in helping with osteoporosis.

Right now I am doing the Wellen program three days a week, and on the other days - I have a Youtube Playlist of those that are certified to teach Dr. Loren Fishman’s 12 poses which has a two year research behind it. I alternate to avoid being in a rut.

And I go to a bio density session once a week.

That is my new game plan keeping me focused and not all over the place hoping what I am doing is the right thing.

I thought this thread was supposed to be about game plans without drugs????

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rrparra14 | @rrparra14 | Jan 1 2:27pm

I tried Tymlos for 1 week and I even reduced the dose but couldn't tolerate. Constant head ache, racing pulse within 10 minutes of taking my injection, tiredness, and in general not feeling good. My doctor wants me to try Forteo. I hope this might work. I am 3 weeks in from back fusion surgery and my surgeon wanted me on a bone growth medication to increase the healing time and increase my bone growth. I have osteoporosis. Anyone else have this experience?

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cpd54 | @cpd54 | Jan 2 5:32am
In reply to @joyboudreau "I am not disregarding being careful - I’ve actually deleted all my programs off my devices..." + (show)
@joyboudreau

I am not disregarding being careful - I’ve actually deleted all my programs off my devices that are not really well documented to be experts in helping with osteoporosis.

Right now I am doing the Wellen program three days a week, and on the other days - I have a Youtube Playlist of those that are certified to teach Dr. Loren Fishman’s 12 poses which has a two year research behind it. I alternate to avoid being in a rut.

And I go to a bio density session once a week.

That is my new game plan keeping me focused and not all over the place hoping what I am doing is the right thing.

I thought this thread was supposed to be about game plans without drugs????

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Agree with the thread supposedly being about not taking drugs😂…kinda frustrating
What’s a bio density session? That’s a new one for me.

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joyboudreau | @joyboudreau | Jan 2 8:07am

The machine is from Chicago and now found in several wellness type offices like a chiropractor’s. The one I use is in an office that is just for that.

There are four strength actions one does on it, takes only about 15 min - once a week.

If you search biodensity dot com, you can see it and learn about it.

Osteostrong took it and made it into four difference machines for their program. (I am told)

Medicare paid for it until this year -
my first year. Ugh.

I have a friend that has used one seven years with enough improvement to continue even though no longer paid for.

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csjxvcsjxv | @csjxvcsjxv | Jan 2 8:14am
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@honeb279

Definitely the prunes. She was on FOSOMAX for nearly 10 years and no improvements. After the first year on prunes and noticeable improvement in bone density, commented on by hospital. Two years later next bone density another increase. I must emphasis she ate the four prunes nearly every day, eating now and then I doubt would have worked for her.

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Dear Sir. Prunes have a good amount of vitamin K which helps absorb other nutrients important for bone health. May I ask, Does your wife also take vitamin K supplements?

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honeb279 | @honeb279 | Jan 2 8:55am

No she does not take Vitamin K but I do for low platelets.

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samclembeau | @samclembeau | Jan 2 10:32am
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@violetangel1111

Thank you for your encouraging post. I have been eating 2 prunes a day for the past year and will increase to 4 a day. You give me hope!

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i read that 6 is the magic number

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