Probiotics for MAC, MAI, MABS: Do you take them daily?

Posted by anniepie @anniepie, Sep 3, 2021

I knew that good Probiotics are needed if you take antibiotics. And most of us with MAC, MAI or MABS etc take the Big 3 or other antibiotics for a long, long time.

But I didn't realise how important Probiotics could be for preventing virus infections in us, like the Flu virus, viral Pneumonia....or even the Covid19 virus.

Research (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325651#Antibiotics-leave-mice-vulnerable-to-the-flu) has shown that:
..."80% of [those] with healthy gut bacteria survived the infection"..... But "of [those] who had previously received the antibiotic mix, only one-third [33%] survive" and recover from the viral infection....

That reduces the risks of viral infection by less than half !

The scientists doing this study also found 2 more important things:

* "gut bacteria drive interferon signaling, 'telling' the lung cells to react to the virus, stopping it from replicating, and making survival and recovery more likely"

* if the gut bacteria destroyed by antibiotics are replaced with good Probiotics, "this brought interferon signaling back to normal and reestablished [viral] resistance in the lungs"....

So all of us with NTMs who are on the Big 3 or other antibiotics should probably be taking good Probiotics every day. And probably continue this even after any negative sputum tests.

Have any of you been taking good Probiotics every day ? Even after any clear sputum tests ?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

@ion

Thank you for your healthy recipe.I’m going to make it today.

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Were you able to make Kimchi? Is so, how is it looking at this stage?

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@thumperguy

Were you able to make Kimchi? Is so, how is it looking at this stage?

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Hello,
Thank you for asking, I manage to make kimchi, taste good.
Many thanks !

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I have taken Probiotics for several years and continue to do so. Also take D3, Turmeric, Selenium and Magnesium. Haven’t taken the Big Three yet.

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@ion

Hello,
Thank you for asking, I manage to make kimchi, taste good.
Many thanks !

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Hi. Wondering what recipe you use. Never tried Kimchi before but might give it a try. Thanks much. Faye.

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@kei

New to Mayo Clinic Connect, I find it frustrating when posts are sprinkled with numerous acronyms, which I can not interpret! It makes me not want to use this resource because I hardly understand what people are talking about.

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@kei Like you I was in the same situation when I 1st connected with this wonderful group. Here is what works for me: Goggle: What is medical name for IBS . (use any abbreviation that you do not know. I have found the answer every single time and have learned a TON!!

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Hi, recently I came upon a research results regarding different antibiotics and probiotics usage after that and that the beneficial effect is restricted to a subset of individuals permissive to probiotic colonization
“ Probiotics impact the antibiotic resistance gene reservoir along the human GI tract in a person-specific and antibiotic-dependent manner”
Here’s the link: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-021-00920-0

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@oneofyou

Hi, recently I came upon a research results regarding different antibiotics and probiotics usage after that and that the beneficial effect is restricted to a subset of individuals permissive to probiotic colonization
“ Probiotics impact the antibiotic resistance gene reservoir along the human GI tract in a person-specific and antibiotic-dependent manner”
Here’s the link: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-021-00920-0

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What does it mean exactly in terms of taking probiotics?

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I have been taking the Native Path probiotic since last March when I was diagnosed with MAC/BE and I believe the probiotic helped immensely as I began taking the Big 3. I had to go off the Big 3 but I continue to take the probiotic daily. I am consulting with a pulmonologist at one of the larger, national hospitals and once I have the testing done and the treatment prescribed, I will continue with the probiotic for gut issues that can occur while taking such potent antibiotics.

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I took a 15 strain probiotic and S. Boulardii. Now I've finished treatment I alternate one or other each day. I'm suspecting I've got SIBO post antibiotic therapy so I'll be back on the kefir snd miso as well

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