Every day I cough up what looks like a scab with ugly mucous and blood
Every day I cough up what looks like a scab with ugly mucous and tiny amounts of blood. It seems to come from the back of my throat or nose. My doctor has seen the scab but does not see anything wrong. This, to me, seems really odd. Has anyone had this problem?
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Does this photo look like what we have? It’s the only one I can find online that looks relatively close to our mucus blob photos.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0145561320980189?icid=int.sj-full-text.similar-articles.1
Has anyone had the cauterization of the area done?
Would love to know if anyone has found any recent success with solving this problem as I have had it for years. Images I have seen look very similar to what I expel daily. Here is where I am at in trying to solve the daily frustration of needing to expel these crusts...
About 3 months ago I went to see 2 ENTS, one being my regular ENT and one being a new one for a second opinion. The new ENT took a look and did make the assumption that I have a Thornwaldt Cyst. 5 days later I had an appoitnment with my regular ENT and I ensured that I did not attempt to clear the daily crust I have to expel as I wanted him to find it with his camera. I explained what the new ENT had said and he went right to the nasopharynx and found the crust. He was amazed at how hard it was to dislodge and once he took it out I felt amazing (as I usually do after I expel it myself but of course takes a lot of work).
At this point I am waiting to get a CT scan done and I discussed with him the idea of electro cauterization as someone posted an article about that procedure. In the meantime here is what he wanted me to do:
- Take 2 x 600mg NAC supplements daily
- Take 2 x Rhinaris oil daily
- Put a small pea size amount of Lanolin into each nostril before bedtime
- Every other day use pulmicort in a nasal syringe, lay on back with head over the edge of the bed and spray half the pulmicort into each nostril - this is mainly to prevent polyps.
The above really has just been a way to help make expelling these crusts easier and does not solve the core issue. At this point Im thinking I will try the Xxylitol rinse method someone mentioned to see how that goes.
Ill update here when I get my CT result and see my ENT again.
Did it end up being Thornwald cyst?
Did you get the problem resolved?
Did you end up having this resolved?
I might have thornwaldt crust as well, but I'm getting 2nd opinion later this month. I did talk to a girl who had it removed, she told me this:
It's something that is almost always looked over or misdiagnosed. I was quite insistent that I had something wrong and the 3rd ENT I went to found the cyst!
I didn't get my tonsils removed, but they did however, remove my adenoids. I too had post nasal drip and ear infections for most of my life. Smoking, dry weather, sleeping with the fan on made it worse, as well. But they performed a quick surgery to drain the cyst, then sewed it in a way that it could drain. My cyst formed in my nasopharynx in a spot that was deformed (apparently it happens in the womb). So they stitched up the hole as well and I've been doing fantastic since.
Did yours end up being Tornwaldt?
Hi all - made an account just for this thread. Been experiencing exactly these crusts for the past few years, but it’s only recently become more prevalent, like daily sloughing off of the crusts. I read all the same articles mentioned here and was pretty sure I’m dealing with Thornwaldt’s cyst (crust type). Nasal irrigation every night and that gets it for me. First ENT I saw did a endoscopy and found nothing. Sent me home with Flonase. Did not use cause I read that didn’t work for other people. Saw a 2nd ENT and what would he happen to find but the pesky crust just sitting there in the midline of my nasopharynx. He said it’s definitely indicative of Thornwaldt’s. Poked at it and it’s very stubborn. Worth noting he used a rigid scope which I think works better at finding these things cause it goes straight back. It also helped that I had done research and told him where to look, so be your own advocate at these appointments and mention Thornwaldt’s by name. He’s had patients with Thornwaldt’s before so that’s encouraging. CT scheduled for next month to confirm and then we’ll go from there. He mentioned surgery if it’s cystic. If it’s just the crust type, I guess I’ll ask about the electrocauterization. Anyway, hope this gives people a little hope!
Great that your ENT said it's indicative for Thornwaldt. Mine does not.. but when I had nasoscopy the crust wasn't there so that sucked. Do you experience thick mucus as well at that same spot? I'll actually have to remove the crust and the excess mucus with my finger daily to get some relief. Had a CT scan, all clear. But I talked to another girl whose problem turned out to be thornwaldt just like she suspected, CT also clear, they finally saw it with MRI. Just so you know :). And I'm gonna request MRI as well at my next ENT visit. Sooo done with this. Wish you the best and please update!
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