Medicare only, no supplement

Posted by hello1234 @hello1234, Nov 1, 2023

Hi all,
I want your opinion. I am under 65 years old (one year to go!). I received Medicare after my kidney transplant. The price quotes for Medicare Disability Supplemental insurance are crazy high, until I reach 65 years old. I am thinking of just using my Medicare Insurance and paying any out of pocket charges for the next year. Does anyone use Medicare only with no supplement? What is your experience regarding the out of pocket charges?
Many thanks!

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@chrisxkauffold

Hi, so I'm 62 and my Cobra ran out from my employer 7 months after my transplant (heart double lung), I saw the cost to get a supplemental in the premium was outrageous and then it doesn't cover prescription. I ended up after a lot of research using the AARP Medicare advantage plan their PPO plan. I can tell you that Mayo Clinic is in network and they are accepting that insurance and it was significantly cheaper when you add up all the max out of pocket and everything versus a supplemental. I know I'm going to revisit this when I turn 65 and probably switch to a supplemental then but right now I have a plan that covers Medicare a and b, prescriptions, dental, optical and the premium is 40 bucks a month now there are copays but I have not found them unreasonable at this point and I have biopsies and a lot of care that is done at Mayo. Be careful when people tell you that a Mayo does not accept an advantage plan it depends on the plan and it's kind of the other way around it's whether or not the advantage plan includes Mayo Clinic in their Network. Hope this helps best of luck.

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Hi @chrisxkauffold 😊
It's so very nice to meet you! Congratulations on your DOUBLE transplant....how WONDERFUL!!
Also, thank you for sharing your positive AARP Medicare Advantage PPO experience.
I received a letter from Mayo alerting me that Mayo Clinic Florida is not "in-network" for most Medicare Advantage Plans.
It sounds like you were able to successfully research and identify an Advantage plan that is accepted by Mayo.
In the letter, Mayo included their TAX ID information to confirm with the insurance company that Mayo participates.
Thank you again for giving us a reminder that some Medicare Advantage plans are accepted by Mayo. That is very helpful information.
Is everything going well with your transplant? Are you starting to resume some of your activities now that you are feeling better?

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@hello1234

Hi @chrisxkauffold 😊
It's so very nice to meet you! Congratulations on your DOUBLE transplant....how WONDERFUL!!
Also, thank you for sharing your positive AARP Medicare Advantage PPO experience.
I received a letter from Mayo alerting me that Mayo Clinic Florida is not "in-network" for most Medicare Advantage Plans.
It sounds like you were able to successfully research and identify an Advantage plan that is accepted by Mayo.
In the letter, Mayo included their TAX ID information to confirm with the insurance company that Mayo participates.
Thank you again for giving us a reminder that some Medicare Advantage plans are accepted by Mayo. That is very helpful information.
Is everything going well with your transplant? Are you starting to resume some of your activities now that you are feeling better?

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Didn't think about other Mayo locations, I needed coverage specifically for Mayo Rochester and UW Health in Wisconsin, it was so hard, plus making sure the drug coverage was good for all the meds. I had help from the insurance company that manages my long term disability insurance, they referred me to a group that helps find additional insurance for Medicare.

The triple transplant is absolutely amazing, recovering will take a while but I'm here and wouldn't be without it.

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@chrisxkauffold

Didn't think about other Mayo locations, I needed coverage specifically for Mayo Rochester and UW Health in Wisconsin, it was so hard, plus making sure the drug coverage was good for all the meds. I had help from the insurance company that manages my long term disability insurance, they referred me to a group that helps find additional insurance for Medicare.

The triple transplant is absolutely amazing, recovering will take a while but I'm here and wouldn't be without it.

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@chrisxkauffold 😊
I am so happy to hear that your TRIPLE transplant is going well! Wow!
I agree with your assessment of our transplants...AMAZING.
The whole transplant process is a true miracle for all of us!
Please continue to stay in touch...I am thrilled for your triple transplant.
Thank you for letting me know about your Medicare health insurance journey...these are not easy decisions. I am sure whatever decision I make will concern me until I turn 65.

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@hello1234

Hi @scottij 😊
It's so great to hear from you!! Thank you so much for joining in...
After my transplant, I also had COBRA for almost 2 years.
When my COBRA ended, I purchased a Blue Cross individual policy to replace the COBRA. I probably should have purchased a supplement at that time.
The price of the individual policy in 2024 is crazy high.
Also, the individual health policies have super high deductibles so it really didn't cover the 20%.
I looked at my health charges this year and mathematically I would be better off with Medicare only (unless I needed some major surgery, which I did not).
If I just paid the out of pocket directly like I ended up doing this year, and kept my high premiums, it would have been worth over $10,000 in my pocket.
I am being told that the Medicare supplement requires underwriting now since I didn't do it immediately after my transplant.
I am not sure if there is any guaranteed issue period for Medicare Supplement disability like there is at age 65.
Do you happen to know if there is a guaranteed issue period for a Medicare Supplement policy after a transplant?

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Hmmm, I do not know about a guaranteed issue period nor about an underwriting requirement. My supplement plan is a United Health Care/AARP plan, and the cost is just short of $250 per month but it covers both my wife and me. So for us, the $3K per year in addition to Part D costs ($50/month for me in 2024 and, believe it or not $0/month for my wife) have been worth it to date as I have had a lot of minor issues post heart transplant. (Two new hips thanks to tacrolimus, right shoulder issues, and so on.)

Perhaps a catastrophic only plan just in case?

What a screwed-up health care system we have in the US. Greatest technology in the world but the system in which is administered and accounted (paid for) is a mess.

Also I do know Medicare plans vary in cost by state and county/zip code.
Sorry I was not much help. I do not seem to have the same issues in getting care or paying for it that others have.
Best always,
s!

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@scottij

Hmmm, I do not know about a guaranteed issue period nor about an underwriting requirement. My supplement plan is a United Health Care/AARP plan, and the cost is just short of $250 per month but it covers both my wife and me. So for us, the $3K per year in addition to Part D costs ($50/month for me in 2024 and, believe it or not $0/month for my wife) have been worth it to date as I have had a lot of minor issues post heart transplant. (Two new hips thanks to tacrolimus, right shoulder issues, and so on.)

Perhaps a catastrophic only plan just in case?

What a screwed-up health care system we have in the US. Greatest technology in the world but the system in which is administered and accounted (paid for) is a mess.

Also I do know Medicare plans vary in cost by state and county/zip code.
Sorry I was not much help. I do not seem to have the same issues in getting care or paying for it that others have.
Best always,
s!

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Hi @scottij 😊
As always, I agree with all of your comments. We have all definitely benefitted from amazing technology for sure, but the insurance stuff is a mess.
And thank you so much for your very detailed response with your premium numbers. They were really helpful!
I can't wait until I turn 65 and get rid of this concern.
I ran some numbers and I think Medicare only for one year until I turn 65 will work okay (unless something catastrophic happens to me).
I spoke to an agent today and the supplement is $1,000 a month for under 65 years old. It doesn't seem like it's worth $12,000.

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