No sleep or sleep meds
I have been unable to sleep since stopping Ambien (5 months ago) and Ativan(2 months ago). I have not slept for over 2 hours a night. I understand I supposedly have rebound insomnia, however I have had a sleep problem since I was very young. I have researched this question on the web but only found answers that sleep aids ARE BAD!
My question is: What is worse? No sleep or sleep using sleep meds?
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Lisa, which drug specifically? The Ambien or the clonazapam caused the bradycardia? I started having fainting spells 5 years ago. Had cardiac workup and no reason can be found for it. I was taking 5 mg of Ambien every night. If the Ambien causes cardiac problems, maybe it was causing the bradycardia for me and fainting was the result, especially since the fainting always began while I was sleeping in the early morning hours. I have stopped taking Ambien and though I have had two fainting spells since in the last 6 months, they are no where near as frequent as they were (every 6 weeks).
Hi, it was not ambien or clonazapam at all. Those drugs have only been beneficial for me. It was quetiapine used for anxiety also known as Seroquel. Other drugs that contributed to my heart problem were sertraline, lexapro and several other drugs for depression, all known as SSRIs. Those drugs caused tachycardia and bradycardia which in time damaged my heart and it says those are side effects for those drugs when you look it up on the manufacturer’s website. I went to cardiologists 15 years ago complaining that sometimes my heart felt like it was trying to get out of my chest with a heart rate of up to 170. The cardiologists would put a halter monitor on me for 24 hours and nothing would happen so they basically never found the problem. The problem did not occur every day; sometimes I could go for a week without it happening. I didn’t really feel bradycardia when it got too low but sometimes when I would measure it when it was going too fast, then I would remeasure every half hour even when I didn’t feel it beating hard and then it might be at 40. I also fainted as well. When I ended up in the ER, the doctor told me I wasn’t really fainting; he said that meant that my heart stopped for 15 seconds or more which caused me to pass out.
Have your cardiologists checked you for an electrical problem in your heart? Also, when you fainted, was it upon standing up after waking?
I believe it. I have a lot of problems with mine. It feels like my intestines swell up pretty bad then start spasm or cramping backing me up. I spend days in excruciating pain, especially when I'm stressed. It happens 2 or 3 times a month. Theres no way I could go to a hosp like that and when I went in they said it was something minor and nothing they can do about it. They're saying your guts are a second brain and have the same orexins as the brain. It's a deficiency of orexins believed to cause the narcolepsy I have. No doubt it causes my intestinal issues too. I just told ny Dr I'm done with taking psych meds to solve sleep issues, I want something that is specifically for sleep. He gave me lunesta. I took one last night, another one 5 hours ago, still haven't slept and have a sleep test that starts at 9pm tonite, just terrific, lol.
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1 ReactionThis only thing I hate about Ambien is that it makes it very hard to stop sleeping in the morning even when alarm sounds.
UPDATE: Finally got in to see Dr. yesterday about insomnia AGAIN. Told her I quit taking Ambien and Ativan but that I haven't slept in 3 months. She emphatically said you must sleep, even if you have to take sleep meds to do so. She was impressed with the amount of research I had done into the various med options and that I had tried as hard as I did to quit all sleep meds. I had narrowed down my list to either Lunesta or Silenor. She said lets try Lunesta first then go from there. Last night I took 2 mg of Lunesta and stayed awake all night. Saw every hour on the clock. I SO bummed, but will continue for the 30 days of supply. What's funny is my Apply Watch sleep app shows I was awake only 28 mins. I think that's bull**** cause today I feel like crap.
I think you're right to not draw conclusions because of one lousy night. My sleep night before last was reasonable, last night cr*p. I figure it's because I did less exercise yesterday but who knows. In any case I always tell myself that tonight will be better.
Could be the tablet you took was good but something else in your day disrupted your sleep. Maybe you lay awake thinking about whether the tablet would work for you. There are so many factors that can exacerbate the sleep problems. Something is going on in everybody's life. Here we're in the middle of a war so maybe my expectation of sleeping well in this time is a bit unrealistic.
Hope you sleep better tonight!
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2 ReactionsHello...Lunesta did not work for me either...so good luck with it. Let us know when you try Silenor....I'm curios if that will work....I am taking Lorazepam now for sleep and most nights it works great...
I too take lorazepam for sleep. Works great most evening but sometimes not at all. Wondering if I am starting to develop a tolerance to this drug. 1.0 mg worked for a long while but now I am finding that I need 1.5 mg. May I ask how many mg you are taking?
In addition, regarding your Apple Watch - I have a Garmin band that shows my sleep. I've stopped using it because it often shows me as having been asleep when I was lying wide awake. There's also something they call a "body battery" which is supposed to reflect my energy. Total cr*p.
In my opinion the only thing the watch is good for is measuring steps - maybe. Sometimes it shows that I climbed tons of steps. Know when? After I ride the escalator in the mall!
The Apple Watch does great for workouts, etc. And my Garmin golf watch works well too. The review by a science guy on utube gave the sleep function an 87% good rating after extensive testing comparing it to the one they wear on the head in sleep clinics, but I still have to second guess it. The main thing I question is it records time awake sometimes as "core" sleep, which is same as light sleep.
That's really funny it thinks the escalator is steps but I kinda get it.
Second night on Lunesta another fail, but last night (3rd night) with turning off iPad 30 mins before, drinking Sleepytime tea with honey, meditating a few minutes then taking Lunesta worked better. Slept about 6 hours. Maybe because I was so exhausted my brain gave up.
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