Does anyone know of anyone whom has gotten over Long Covid Condition

Is NAD the same as vitamin B3 (niacin)?

Hello klittr,
What I am about to say will turn off most Americans, but hang in there because it is worth finding the solution. I have a 1/4 cup of fresh natto (Japanese fermented soybeans) as first food in the morning. Natto is the highest source of K1 and K2. If you take K2 capsules, 180mcg would be good. K1 is known as nattokinase and can be found in capsules. I have found them to be ineffective because they have to heat the natto to make a dry nattokinase powder and heat can damage most vitamins. You can buy frozen natto at Asian groceries, but they is likely to be less effective because of the freezing and storage.
Natto turns off Americans because of its appearance and scent. Americans would call it slimy, but that is the "good threads" that forms the nattokinase that thins the blood. Natto should be eaten cold but you could add other cold foods with it such as salsa.
I purchase fresh natto from Brooklyn (nyrture.com). They ship UPS Air with ice packs. I am going to try making my own in an instant pot on the yogurt setting.
The difference can only be described as refreshing. For almost a year, I have been complaining of being tired of being tired. Now I feel normal. Natto may sound strange, but view it as medicine that you need to get better. It will not have negative side effects, but will have positive side effects. K2 takes the calcium that is accumulating in the arteries and takes it to the bones and teeth. The arteries are clean and the bones are strong.

Hi klittr,
I should mention that natto can lower blood pressure. That is good for me because my BP is elevated, but if you have low BP you need to use caution with natto.

Hi klittr,
A side note is that K1 and K2 used to be in the diet of our ancestors in cheese and eggs when cows and chickens were on pasture. They obtained bacteria from the grass / ground that allowed them to produce K1 and K2. Now with mega-agra the animals do not see pastures and we do not see K1 and K2 in our food and we need to turn to the Japanese alternative: natto.

Hi klittr,
In reference to the concern of covid causing blood clotting, this is an excerpt from an interview with Dr. Paul Cremer of the Cleveland Clinic:
"And we've also observed that in COVID-19, patients are more likely to get blood clots in the veins, such as in the legs. And those blood clots can migrate and result in blood clots in the blood vessels of the lungs. So when we're talking about COVID-19 and this inflammatory response, we really can see an increased risk for blood clots in small and larger blood vessels, and in arteries as well as veins, and so it's something we very much need to look out for in these patients."
(They do not allow links to be posted so I took out the dashes and slashes,)
cleveland clinic podcasts health essentials how does covid19 affect the heart with dr paul cremer
Dr. Beverly Hunt in UK:
"As far as the stickiness is concerned, we are talking about changes in the blood proteins. The commonest cause of these changes is being ill.
If you’re ill, you produce chemical cytokines that tell the liver to make more clotting proteins. Then your blood is full of clotting proteins that make it very sticky and very ready to clot." medical news today articles covid-19 I've never seen-such-sticky-blood-says-thrombosis expert Inflammation-and-thrombosis

Article from Cleveland Clinic: " But a certain amount of clotting-ability in your blood is important for your health. The ability for your blood to clot is what keeps you from bleeding out after an injury. Blood that’s too thin can make you bruise more easily and even leave you at risk for dangerous internal bleeding.

Vitamin K can help keep your blood not too thick and not too thin. In the words of Goldilocks, it keeps your blood just right.

At this point, researchers have yet to determine if vitamin K1 or vitamin K2 are equally responsible for clotting or if one is any more effective than the other when it comes to blood clotting. "
health cleveland clinic vitamin k

Hi klittr3637,

B-3 (niacinamide, non-flushing form only) is not the same as NAD. Niacinamide is the pre-cursor to the body being able to make NAD on it's own again. NAD naturally occurs and is made by the body, under good/healthy circumstances.

The niacinamide will address oxygen levels and the fatigue because once your body has more NAD these basic functions are able to regulate and get back to normal. This is my own intuitive understanding, and how it FELT to me in my own body when I was going through these processes. Clearly I don't have a specific scientific reason but this was my impression when I was going through it. That is why the B-3 is such a game changer because the NAD is absolutely required for all biological processes.

Some people ONLY need B-3 and find themselves back to normal very quickly. I also took an anti-histamine daily (still do actually). Some people take two forms of histamine blockers - H1 and H2 blockers - at least until their extreme symptoms are under control. Hope that helps!

Helps a lot. Thanks

klittr,

Is your joint pain a new symptom? If so, it could also be attributed to the extreme inflammation throughout the body during Covid/long haul. If that is the case, eating anti-inflammatory as well as low histamine diet will help. Some people research MCAS (mast cell activation syndrome) because it is a similar diet/protocol the helps reduce histamines/ inflammation.

I remember the random aches and pains well, in muscle groups as well as limbs, even while resting most of the time. I just refused to see regular doctors because I knew they would just prescribe something to treat symptoms -- not address the actual root cause of the problem. Some people also taking turmeric (to reduce inflammation) but I believe the overall diet is very key.

Hi denglish19,

What dose of non-flushing niacinamide would you suggest for Long Covid sufferers? what sources of histamine blockers H1 and H2 should I look for ? Thanks for your contributions to this forum.

After two years I felt close to 100% in early spring.

Then the third booster sent me into a major tailspin. Not so much fatigue this time. Debilitating all day dizzy--nearly passing out nervous system tremors become the norm. 3 months since booster I think I bottomed out. Am headed back up hill again.