I have a very high calcium score. What next?

Posted by dpframing @dpframing, Aug 24, 2018

Just joined the site and I'm looking to share with others who have had a high calcium score. I found out today that mine is 2996 and I am scared by this. I am 61 and I am totally asymptomatic. Now I feel like a walking time bomb. I am thinking of requesting an angiogram to see if there's any narrowing anywhere and if it can be corrected with a stent. After a second heart doctor told me that the plaque buildup might be uniform over the course of years with no big problem areas, I am encouraged. But the score still freaks me out, specifically my LAD at 1333. I don't smoke or drink but I have to lose 40 lbs.

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Thanks for responding Jasper1072. Most of my lipid test results last I had one about a little over a year ago were within ranges. Little high on the triglycerides, 160. My blood pressure was high, 145/95, so thus the reason to start me on blood pressure meds. I was somewhat alarmed by the "Frank's sign" notification, but now with the elevated calcium score, I am somewhat uneasy. Especially since really, most of my score is concentrated in one area, LAD. Would you happen to have a view on my resting heart beat question, I just keep thinking all of this means low blood flow, and harder work for my heart, or higher beats per minute in this effort, yet, I am not seeing that thus far. I do intend to start a whole foods diet, lose some much needed weight I've been saying I'm going to lose for years, and increase my cardo. Also, any views on the increase YOY, I am hearing mixed feelings on statins, and its element on the increase it promotes by taking it, as well as just in "general" it can be between 8% to 30%. What is best practice to making it 8%?

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@jaxson123

Thanks for responding Jasper1072. Most of my lipid test results last I had one about a little over a year ago were within ranges. Little high on the triglycerides, 160. My blood pressure was high, 145/95, so thus the reason to start me on blood pressure meds. I was somewhat alarmed by the "Frank's sign" notification, but now with the elevated calcium score, I am somewhat uneasy. Especially since really, most of my score is concentrated in one area, LAD. Would you happen to have a view on my resting heart beat question, I just keep thinking all of this means low blood flow, and harder work for my heart, or higher beats per minute in this effort, yet, I am not seeing that thus far. I do intend to start a whole foods diet, lose some much needed weight I've been saying I'm going to lose for years, and increase my cardo. Also, any views on the increase YOY, I am hearing mixed feelings on statins, and its element on the increase it promotes by taking it, as well as just in "general" it can be between 8% to 30%. What is best practice to making it 8%?

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Hi @jaxson123---

You are doing your homework, which I think all of us do when we are told that we run a higher risk for a heart attack. Most of us go into panic mode...the term I used when I learned my score. I quickly found out it is not the end of the world...CAC tells you that you have some level of heart disease, but can't tell how much specifically and can't tell you if you have blockages...Heck, you don't need calcium to have a blockage---just that you are at higher risk. The more calcium, the more risk in theory. Many factors including where the calcium is, density etc.
Yes, you will see the literature states being on statins will increase CAC, but as some say that may not be a bad thing. Generally speaking it is the soft plaque that could potentially have you clutching your chest! Calcium is suggested to be more stable. IMHO, don't concentrate on the score, concentrate on how you should live a healthier lifestyle...exercise, appropriate medications to reduce cholesterol levels including your LDL, Triglycerides. Again, if they do find something, don't panic....your at least ahead of the game and can take steps to mitigate a bad event. I would be happy to share with you my own regimen that works for me. Feel free to message me privately and I would be happy to share with you the steps I personally have taken to take control of my destiny the best way I can.

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@jasper1072

Hi @jaxson123---

You are doing your homework, which I think all of us do when we are told that we run a higher risk for a heart attack. Most of us go into panic mode...the term I used when I learned my score. I quickly found out it is not the end of the world...CAC tells you that you have some level of heart disease, but can't tell how much specifically and can't tell you if you have blockages...Heck, you don't need calcium to have a blockage---just that you are at higher risk. The more calcium, the more risk in theory. Many factors including where the calcium is, density etc.
Yes, you will see the literature states being on statins will increase CAC, but as some say that may not be a bad thing. Generally speaking it is the soft plaque that could potentially have you clutching your chest! Calcium is suggested to be more stable. IMHO, don't concentrate on the score, concentrate on how you should live a healthier lifestyle...exercise, appropriate medications to reduce cholesterol levels including your LDL, Triglycerides. Again, if they do find something, don't panic....your at least ahead of the game and can take steps to mitigate a bad event. I would be happy to share with you my own regimen that works for me. Feel free to message me privately and I would be happy to share with you the steps I personally have taken to take control of my destiny the best way I can.

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That would be great! Appreciate the offer. I am on the road to a healthier me, and I am going to look at this from a glass 1/2 full!

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@jaxson123

That would be great! Appreciate the offer. I am on the road to a healthier me, and I am going to look at this from a glass 1/2 full!

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Well, I was advised to click on your user profile, and I would be able to connect with you on a private message, yet, I saw no opportunity to do so, once I did.

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I just sent you a message—

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@jasper1072

Hi @jaxson123---we are not too different. I am 50 1/2, I have no medical issues other than an elevated calcium score of 170, but not all in my LAD---I think it was 86. I also have high cholesterol that is very very low now due to 10mg of Crestor, I to take a baby aspirin as per the recommendations. I mentioned in other posts, generally speaking most physicians if they are following guidelines will not send someone for a stress test unless they are symptomatic. Also like many people---including myself--I had an intense amount of anxiety and was sent for a regular stress test and a nuclear stress test (MPI). I also have no symptoms--thankfully all came back negative. I also have normal blood pressure. You will see a lot of comments about the value of stress tests...but I think it does provide piece of mind to some extent. Some individuals feel the need to push for Cardiac CT or catherization---all have significant amount of radiation and have some inherent risks besides the radiation. I am in the medical field and I am NOT dispensing medical advice, just making my own personal comments---it comes down to value vs. risk. You will see others here with much higher scores than yours...who wish they had your score! In the end, it is a wake up call that we are not impervious to disease and we can make changes to address the danger. Everyone is very different, keep in mind the CAC is only one test. Be optimistic all will be good, take a deep breath and realize in time some of that anxiety will go away. A friend of mine had a score of 300ish 15 years ago...and he lives a very normal life...just healthier. Good luck, let us know how things go.

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Very good advice!

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Get the book “Beating the Heart Gene” even if it isn’t a genetic thing for you. It is very easy to read and may help save your life.

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@jaxson123

Thanks for responding Jasper1072. Most of my lipid test results last I had one about a little over a year ago were within ranges. Little high on the triglycerides, 160. My blood pressure was high, 145/95, so thus the reason to start me on blood pressure meds. I was somewhat alarmed by the "Frank's sign" notification, but now with the elevated calcium score, I am somewhat uneasy. Especially since really, most of my score is concentrated in one area, LAD. Would you happen to have a view on my resting heart beat question, I just keep thinking all of this means low blood flow, and harder work for my heart, or higher beats per minute in this effort, yet, I am not seeing that thus far. I do intend to start a whole foods diet, lose some much needed weight I've been saying I'm going to lose for years, and increase my cardo. Also, any views on the increase YOY, I am hearing mixed feelings on statins, and its element on the increase it promotes by taking it, as well as just in "general" it can be between 8% to 30%. What is best practice to making it 8%?

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jaxson123,

What are your lipid numbers?

Have you had an advanced lipids screening? One testing company calls it Cardio IQ.

The calcium could be in the arterial walls or even outside the artery ... supposedly. Statins will increase the CAC score as it causes calcification of soft plaques, but this is better than softer plaques breaking off.

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My scores last conducted in November of 2021 are as follows:

Chol - 195
Trig - 160
HDL - 43
LDL - 120

Chol/HDL ratio - 4.5

I am having my blood work reexamined this Friday. I will inquiry about this advanced Lipid test.

Thanks for the FYI

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So, next step is to decide what your targets are - not what the charts say is normal, since you know you are not a normal patient, but one that wants to lower heart disease risk.

Here's a link to one of many studies/reviews/analyses - European recommendations are different from US - don't get hung up on this. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5871968/

Chol - about 120
Trig - about 50
LCL - about 55 (some studies point to 25-55, below 25 the "goodness" starts to drop off
HDL - as high as reasonable exercise can get it (mine does not respond much to exercise - have been stuck in mid 40s all my life)

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