Recommendation for 0.2 micron filters

Posted by formergardener @formergardener, May 16, 2023

Hello to all in the group. There has been so, so much valuable information in this supportive resource, and I am so much more aware of the questions I need to be asking, so here is another one!

I believe that Sue mentioned in a post that she uses a 0.2 micron point-of-use filter. We had a whole house, 3 stage water filtration system. It was very basic- nothing high-end. One of the stages was a carbon filter, which I have learned harbors this bacteria, among others.

My poor husband had to call a plumber to come out and dismantle it. Then I investigated different bottled water delivery systems and came across and offer for Costco members. It offered a discount on delivery of 5 gallon bottles, and you could choose between filtered, spring, or distilled water. There was a small monthly charge for rental of the cooler/dispenser. You could order a maximum of 5 bottles per delivery, and since delivery was $12.99, we opted for the once a month.

They had the option of the water jug being placed right side up in the bottom and attached via tube inside to the upside-down bottle. That made me nervous because of the tubing, so we opted for the dispenser that operated via air displacement of the upside down jug on the dispenser.

Then I ran across an article about how these water cooler dispensers harbor microorganisms. They recommend sanitizing every 6 months, but from what I read elsewhere, they provide a constant supply of pseudomonas, etc…

I freaked out. I had been boiling my drinking water, but our water is so, so hard, that thick deposits of residue would form on the pots, and it would coat my nebulizing and other airway clearance equipment (hence the choice for water delivery).

So, we cancelled the water delivery. The jugs are too large and heavy to be lifted and poured from. Now I am back to looking at point of use filter for the kitchen faucet for all of our drinking water.

Sue, you mentioned using a 0.2 micron filter on your sink. Is there a particular one that you have been pleased with? I have read that they clog easily and need to be changed often, but I believe that they are safer and still more cost effective than the delivery. Choosing to buy cases of bottled spring water is out because of all the plastic waste and exposure to the BPA.

I don’t want to make any more wrong decisions! All this is costly, time consuming, and needlessly energy draining and stressful. I just want to get down to a routine and stick with it. Any experiences and advice would really be appreciated!

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@lindac1208

I am using the Pall showered and I find it performs nicely. Like others have mentioned, it has to be replaced every two months.

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Thank you.

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@formergardener

Thank you so much. One more very helpful experience shared!

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Former Gardner...can you give name of the open and dry shower head?
Also, if you are a former gardener,I have a barrage of questions: I am having trouble weaning myself. Is there a minimal amount you still allow yourself? If I have wood chips put every where to cover the dirt would that protect me at all? do you grow herbs in pots? bring flowers into the house? Please tell all. Thank you.

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We have old plumbing and faucets; some don't have filters to change. One is IKEA and we have broken the whole faucet trying to get the filter off.

Any suggestions?... appreciated.

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@regen99

Former Gardner...can you give name of the open and dry shower head?
Also, if you are a former gardener,I have a barrage of questions: I am having trouble weaning myself. Is there a minimal amount you still allow yourself? If I have wood chips put every where to cover the dirt would that protect me at all? do you grow herbs in pots? bring flowers into the house? Please tell all. Thank you.

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Regen 99, I believe it was another member who uses that special showerhead. I no longer take showers. Instead, I take baths (not deep and steamy ones), and I wash my hair over the side of the tub. I am ok with it because it is better for me than dealing with the shower issues.

As to gardening. Yes, zi did have to wean myself. I understand that mulch harbors this bacterium. Wood chips eventually decompose and integrate with the soil, but I believe they help to keep the soil from blowing, so they are definitely a help.

I removed my indoor houseplants and gave them to a good home with a friend. That was hard. I don’t keep fresh flowers in the house now because the water needs changing and harbors bacteria. Just not taking chances.

Where we used to live, I always grew herbs in pots, but where we live now has critters and deer, so things do not survive. However, growing herbs in pots would work well for you. Just be sure to rinse them well, and wear an N95 when working with potting soil. Also wear gloves and remove clothing to wash immediately. I have cacti arrangements on my porch he’s now, and I covered the top of the soil with decorative pebbles, to keep it from blowing.

I still trim my hedges because it does not involve soil, but I always use an N95, wear a hat, and I wear nylon gloves under my garden gloves. I also wear all that when I water because we have a lot of windy days, and we live in Gtwn, TX. The exponential growth has them digging up all the trees and building, constructing everywhere. So, there is always soil blowing in the air. People also hire yard crews that use those blowers, and the debris goes everywhere.

I believe that, if careful, you can still enjoy some gardening, but you should avoid digging or contact with soil.

I hope that this helps.

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@formergardener

Regen 99, I believe it was another member who uses that special showerhead. I no longer take showers. Instead, I take baths (not deep and steamy ones), and I wash my hair over the side of the tub. I am ok with it because it is better for me than dealing with the shower issues.

As to gardening. Yes, zi did have to wean myself. I understand that mulch harbors this bacterium. Wood chips eventually decompose and integrate with the soil, but I believe they help to keep the soil from blowing, so they are definitely a help.

I removed my indoor houseplants and gave them to a good home with a friend. That was hard. I don’t keep fresh flowers in the house now because the water needs changing and harbors bacteria. Just not taking chances.

Where we used to live, I always grew herbs in pots, but where we live now has critters and deer, so things do not survive. However, growing herbs in pots would work well for you. Just be sure to rinse them well, and wear an N95 when working with potting soil. Also wear gloves and remove clothing to wash immediately. I have cacti arrangements on my porch he’s now, and I covered the top of the soil with decorative pebbles, to keep it from blowing.

I still trim my hedges because it does not involve soil, but I always use an N95, wear a hat, and I wear nylon gloves under my garden gloves. I also wear all that when I water because we have a lot of windy days, and we live in Gtwn, TX. The exponential growth has them digging up all the trees and building, constructing everywhere. So, there is always soil blowing in the air. People also hire yard crews that use those blowers, and the debris goes everywhere.

I believe that, if careful, you can still enjoy some gardening, but you should avoid digging or contact with soil.

I hope that this helps.

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Former Gardener: immense help.
Bitter pills, but a good nudge.

Is living in a dry climate (Tx, assume it is dryer than Minn) better aside from the construction?

I have spent a fortune and the last l0 years helping put in a permaculture garden, being around fruit and vegetable plants. Are there filters for hoses? why do you wear nylon gloves under your garden gloves? what do you wear on your feet?

Thank you so much!

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@regen99

We have old plumbing and faucets; some don't have filters to change. One is IKEA and we have broken the whole faucet trying to get the filter off.

Any suggestions?... appreciated.

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Yes, if you are referring to the small aerosolizers that are just inside the faucet head, they can be hrs to remove. Is getting new faucets a possibility? That might involve plumber costs. I have read that some people put vinegar in plastic bags and tie it to the faucet. Not as easy as it sounds.

Our daughter and son-in-law live outside of Boston in a small, 2-story 1940s home with the original oiler. They changed all the A/C system and redid the kitchen, but this was after we first visited. I was exposed to very old plumbing and air units along with all the old dust while there. It is possible that I already had this bug or at least bronchiectasis then without knowing it.

I find myself nervous now about visiting family, especially the ones with big, beautiful, loving and very hairy ones. I was always a dog cuddled but now find myself wondering what they rolled in or stepped through. This bug changes your approach to many things. That is a hard one for me.

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This is traumatic and overwhelming for me at 85.
I just lost my dog, the love of my life (big, hairy, beautiful and loving) and will never get over it. Still have a cat who
stays inside but has several catboxes, which I no longer
am responsible for cleaning, but SHE walks in it and
then sleeps with me... so many issues, and then I gather that the antibiotics (which I am not yet on) don't work all that well, or wreck the rest of your body. Can we
correspond privately? totally understand if you decline.

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@regen99

Former Gardener: immense help.
Bitter pills, but a good nudge.

Is living in a dry climate (Tx, assume it is dryer than Minn) better aside from the construction?

I have spent a fortune and the last l0 years helping put in a permaculture garden, being around fruit and vegetable plants. Are there filters for hoses? why do you wear nylon gloves under your garden gloves? what do you wear on your feet?

Thank you so much!

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I have heard that wet soil harbors this bug, but you also have less dust, so I myself would prefer wet.

Working around fruits and vegetables that you have nurtured is good for the soul and brings happiness. You just need to take those precautions. I wear disposable nylon gloves under garden gloves because the palm side of the gloves is rubber, while the back hand side is more cloth. I rinse my gloves under the faucet when I remove them, and my hands stay clean and dry. I just discard the disposable gloves. It also keeps me from getting soil under my nails. Even then, I seriously wash my hands afterwards and launder everything.

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@formergardener

I have heard that wet soil harbors this bug, but you also have less dust, so I myself would prefer wet.

Working around fruits and vegetables that you have nurtured is good for the soul and brings happiness. You just need to take those precautions. I wear disposable nylon gloves under garden gloves because the palm side of the gloves is rubber, while the back hand side is more cloth. I rinse my gloves under the faucet when I remove them, and my hands stay clean and dry. I just discard the disposable gloves. It also keeps me from getting soil under my nails. Even then, I seriously wash my hands afterwards and launder everything.

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Thank you. The soul suffers on nearly every front these days...

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@regen99

This is traumatic and overwhelming for me at 85.
I just lost my dog, the love of my life (big, hairy, beautiful and loving) and will never get over it. Still have a cat who
stays inside but has several catboxes, which I no longer
am responsible for cleaning, but SHE walks in it and
then sleeps with me... so many issues, and then I gather that the antibiotics (which I am not yet on) don't work all that well, or wreck the rest of your body. Can we
correspond privately? totally understand if you decline.

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I am so very sorry to hear about your dog and know what comfort they bring. I understand about your kitty. Gosh, some of these changes are emotionally so much harder than others, aren’t they?
Regen99, of course we can correspond privately. I am just not sure how to do it with this site because we are not supposed to post e mails. Any suggestions?

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