PMR and Methotrexate

Posted by paulinef @paulinef, Mar 15, 2018

I have been on prednisone for about a year and am finally down to a daily 7 mg dose. However, still feeling some stiffness and my rheumatologist has suggested a couple of times that I could could also go on Methotrexate. I'm reluctant to take yet another medication though so am wondering if anyone else has tried Methotrexate and if it helped lessen the PMR symptoms.

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@sheralee

Thank you. I was at max dose of 4 a day x 2 & my doc said 2 mths should have done something. I do know it's great for RA. I will be back on prednisone for now & try the 1.5 yr advised therapy. Unless a new drug shows hope. Good luck to you!

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@johnbishop

I don't have any experience with Kevzara but there are a couple of discussions where members are discussing it here:
--- Kevzara (sarilumab) to treat PMR: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/kevzara-sarilumab-to-treat-pmr/
--- Has anyone heard this news about Kevzara approved for PMR?: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/has-anyone-heard-this-news-about-kevzara-approved-for-pmr/

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Your comment about prednisone saved me more than you'll know. Thank you! ❣️

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I’ve been on methotrexate since Dec ‘22. My rheumatologist described it as a ‘disease modifier’ so supposedly it’s not just treating the symptoms like prednisone does. However, it is also an immunosuppressant & I don’t feel the greatest after taking it (nausea mostly). I also still need to take some prednisone to manage my symptoms.

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I came across this article and thought it might answer a few questions on MTX. It is only one study but it is how we learn. One step at a time.

Caporali and associates conducted a multicenter, double-blind, randomized controlled trial to evaluate the efficacy of methotrexate when combined with prednisone in the wide-scale treatment of polymyalgia rheumatica.
Seventy-two patients with polymyalgia rheumatica and no contraindications to prednisone or methotrexate were given prednisone at a daily dosage of 25 mg for four weeks, tapering to 17.5 mg, 12.5 mg, 7.5 mg, 5 mg, and 2.5 mg during the following five four-week periods. In addition, patients were randomly assigned to receive methotrexate (10 mg per week) or placebo. Relapses were treated by resumption of the dose of the previous period. After 24 weeks, prednisone treatment was discontinued. All participants received a weekly dose of folinic acid (7.5 mg) 24 hours after administration of methotrexate or placebo, and daily doses of oral calcium (1 g) and vitamin D3 (800 IU). Patients were assessed regularly during the 76 weeks of the study. Medications were withdrawn from patients if there was a significant decrease in their leukocyte or platelet count or a significant increase in their serum creatinine or transaminase levels.
At the end of the study, 32 patients (89 percent) in the methotrexate group and 30 (83 percent) in the placebo group were available for evaluation. More patients in the methotrexate group were free of steroids after 76 weeks than in the placebo group, even when the worst-case scenario was assumed for those who dropped out. The efficacy of methotrexate was clear after 48 weeks, and the methotrexate patients also had significantly fewer flare-ups. Adverse reactions were not significantly different between the two trial groups.

The authors conclude that using prednisone and methotrexate together to treat polymyalgia rheumatica can decrease the number of flare-ups and reduce the total dosage of prednisone required to achieve and maintain remission. Considering the potential adverse effects of long-term prednisone therapy, this would be advantageous to all patients, especially those who cannot tolerate high doses of prednisone. Further studies are needed to determine whether methotrexate is effective as an induction therapy for polymyalgia rheumatica, and whether it can lower the initial dose of prednisone needed for treatment and control.

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@artur

I came across this article and thought it might answer a few questions on MTX. It is only one study but it is how we learn. One step at a time.

Caporali and associates conducted a multicenter, double-blind, randomized controlled trial to evaluate the efficacy of methotrexate when combined with prednisone in the wide-scale treatment of polymyalgia rheumatica.
Seventy-two patients with polymyalgia rheumatica and no contraindications to prednisone or methotrexate were given prednisone at a daily dosage of 25 mg for four weeks, tapering to 17.5 mg, 12.5 mg, 7.5 mg, 5 mg, and 2.5 mg during the following five four-week periods. In addition, patients were randomly assigned to receive methotrexate (10 mg per week) or placebo. Relapses were treated by resumption of the dose of the previous period. After 24 weeks, prednisone treatment was discontinued. All participants received a weekly dose of folinic acid (7.5 mg) 24 hours after administration of methotrexate or placebo, and daily doses of oral calcium (1 g) and vitamin D3 (800 IU). Patients were assessed regularly during the 76 weeks of the study. Medications were withdrawn from patients if there was a significant decrease in their leukocyte or platelet count or a significant increase in their serum creatinine or transaminase levels.
At the end of the study, 32 patients (89 percent) in the methotrexate group and 30 (83 percent) in the placebo group were available for evaluation. More patients in the methotrexate group were free of steroids after 76 weeks than in the placebo group, even when the worst-case scenario was assumed for those who dropped out. The efficacy of methotrexate was clear after 48 weeks, and the methotrexate patients also had significantly fewer flare-ups. Adverse reactions were not significantly different between the two trial groups.

The authors conclude that using prednisone and methotrexate together to treat polymyalgia rheumatica can decrease the number of flare-ups and reduce the total dosage of prednisone required to achieve and maintain remission. Considering the potential adverse effects of long-term prednisone therapy, this would be advantageous to all patients, especially those who cannot tolerate high doses of prednisone. Further studies are needed to determine whether methotrexate is effective as an induction therapy for polymyalgia rheumatica, and whether it can lower the initial dose of prednisone needed for treatment and control.

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Thank you for sharing that study. I found it very interesting. I was diagnosed with PMR in August 2021. I started on 20 mg Prednisone. As I was tapering my Dr prescribed Methotrexate which I started taking in October 2022. I am currently down to 3 mg Prednisone. I am in pain at night and in the morning. I have trouble getting in and out of the car but I go to an exercise class twice a week doing what I can. I also walk for 45 to 60 minutes a couple times a week. I don’t move like I used to because I am in some pain but I feel it’s important to move. I do suffer from fatigue and frequently take naps. I have often wondered if methotrexate has helped me get down to 3mg of Prednisone. It most likely has. I take methotrexate with food in the morning (once a week) along with prednisone, folic acid and calcium. This support group is awesome.

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@artur

I came across this article and thought it might answer a few questions on MTX. It is only one study but it is how we learn. One step at a time.

Caporali and associates conducted a multicenter, double-blind, randomized controlled trial to evaluate the efficacy of methotrexate when combined with prednisone in the wide-scale treatment of polymyalgia rheumatica.
Seventy-two patients with polymyalgia rheumatica and no contraindications to prednisone or methotrexate were given prednisone at a daily dosage of 25 mg for four weeks, tapering to 17.5 mg, 12.5 mg, 7.5 mg, 5 mg, and 2.5 mg during the following five four-week periods. In addition, patients were randomly assigned to receive methotrexate (10 mg per week) or placebo. Relapses were treated by resumption of the dose of the previous period. After 24 weeks, prednisone treatment was discontinued. All participants received a weekly dose of folinic acid (7.5 mg) 24 hours after administration of methotrexate or placebo, and daily doses of oral calcium (1 g) and vitamin D3 (800 IU). Patients were assessed regularly during the 76 weeks of the study. Medications were withdrawn from patients if there was a significant decrease in their leukocyte or platelet count or a significant increase in their serum creatinine or transaminase levels.
At the end of the study, 32 patients (89 percent) in the methotrexate group and 30 (83 percent) in the placebo group were available for evaluation. More patients in the methotrexate group were free of steroids after 76 weeks than in the placebo group, even when the worst-case scenario was assumed for those who dropped out. The efficacy of methotrexate was clear after 48 weeks, and the methotrexate patients also had significantly fewer flare-ups. Adverse reactions were not significantly different between the two trial groups.

The authors conclude that using prednisone and methotrexate together to treat polymyalgia rheumatica can decrease the number of flare-ups and reduce the total dosage of prednisone required to achieve and maintain remission. Considering the potential adverse effects of long-term prednisone therapy, this would be advantageous to all patients, especially those who cannot tolerate high doses of prednisone. Further studies are needed to determine whether methotrexate is effective as an induction therapy for polymyalgia rheumatica, and whether it can lower the initial dose of prednisone needed for treatment and control.

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This is extremely I teresting. I was on methotrexate 10 years ago for APS (anti phospholipid syndrome), but after five years with no flares, I stopped taking it. Good drug, but I hope I don’t revert to that now.

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I was on 15 mg Prednisone. Started on 10 mg Methotrexate 1X weekly and reduced Prednisone to 12.5 mg daily, no real issues. 2 weeks ago, increased Methotrexate to 15 mg 1X weekly and reduced Prednisone to 10 mg daily. Began to get those "wonderful" PMR symptoms again of feeling like I was being hammered with a 2 X 4 all over and Chronic Fatigue. I thought it was the Methotrexate but my rheumatologist says its from the reduction in Prednisone. I'll stay on this dose of Prednisone until July and then see if I can reduce to 9 mg daily.

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A couple of times I posted to ask what experiences people had had with methotrexate and got limited responses. Now that I am on it I will report my experience so far. I was unable to taper below 8 mg prednisone after 20 months and my rheumatologist really wanted me to add methotrexate. The prednisone was working well with minimal side effects and my dose did not seem that high but I agreed that lower would be better as the time extends into years. I have been on the methotrexate for a month now, tapering up from 7.5 mg to 12.5, which I will stay on. I have dropped from 8 to 7 on the pred and will go down 1 mg a month. The first week I had severe side effects: nausea, headaches, a mouth sore, some hair loss. The next week was better even on a higher dose and now I just have mild nausea most of the time. I have essentially no PMR sx's. I have fatigue, but not as much as before I started the new drug. Except for the nausea I feel better. Does anyone have suggestions about how to take the methotrexate to reduce stomach problems? I take the whole dose weekly with breakfast. I'm wondering about splitting the dose or taking it either before or after a meal.

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@linda7

A couple of times I posted to ask what experiences people had had with methotrexate and got limited responses. Now that I am on it I will report my experience so far. I was unable to taper below 8 mg prednisone after 20 months and my rheumatologist really wanted me to add methotrexate. The prednisone was working well with minimal side effects and my dose did not seem that high but I agreed that lower would be better as the time extends into years. I have been on the methotrexate for a month now, tapering up from 7.5 mg to 12.5, which I will stay on. I have dropped from 8 to 7 on the pred and will go down 1 mg a month. The first week I had severe side effects: nausea, headaches, a mouth sore, some hair loss. The next week was better even on a higher dose and now I just have mild nausea most of the time. I have essentially no PMR sx's. I have fatigue, but not as much as before I started the new drug. Except for the nausea I feel better. Does anyone have suggestions about how to take the methotrexate to reduce stomach problems? I take the whole dose weekly with breakfast. I'm wondering about splitting the dose or taking it either before or after a meal.

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Hi..I’m on methotrexate as well. This seems to be the new protocol to get the heck off of prednisone. I was on 40mgs of pred. Then down to 30mgs. Started MTX then at 15mg. Currently I am at 15mg of pred and 20mg of MTX. Headache, nausea and fatigue with the MTX but better every week. I also take folic acid which helps the MTX symptoms ( nausea, mouth sores).

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