Invasive ductal carcinoma (IDC): Anyone else?

Posted by 6750 @6750, Mar 2, 2019

I have rec’d 4 chemo + 16 radiation treatments for invasive. Has lumpectomie 1st....then one week later...
Dissection 17 lymph nodes & 3 tumors removed tumors
Got clean margin.

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@polianad22

@anjalima . Per today I am choosing to do left breast mastectomy, Dr. Alexandra Heerdt from Memorial Sloan Kettering. She told me at the meeting that they usually do an Oncotype DX. Should I schedule with the Dr. before the surgery? How many positive sentinel nodes did you find?

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The OncotypeDX is done on tumor tissue that is most commonly removed during whatever surgery is done to remove the tumor. That's the safest way to remove enough tissue (from the excised cancer mass) to ensure a significant amount of representative cancer cells.

It 'can' be done on tissue sample removed by needle biopsy but there's a far greater chance of not obtaining sufficient and 'representative' tissue according to the Oncotype science guy I asked for a friend once.

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@anjalima

Yes, 0 is likely precluded. I believe that 1-3 positive nodes means anything over 3 is not eligible for the ONCOTYPE analysis ( perhaps non predictive).

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Zero negative lymph nodes does not preclude having the OncotypeDX genomics testing. I had a clean sentinel lymph node biopsy and had the test. A friend with a Stage 1 tumor and clean (negative for cancer cells) sentinel lymph node biopsy had the test as well.

According to a scientist at Exact Sciences (provider of the OncotypeDX), approximately 15% of the OncotypeDX results yield a 'risk of recurrence within 9 years' of 3% or lower (if taking anti-hormone therapy). The overwhelming majority of those low-risk clients also had clean lymph(s) but not all. The person I spoke with didn't have the exact breakdown but had an impression that maybe as high as 75-80% of the low risk results corresponded to clients who also had clean sentinel (or other) lymph node biopsies.

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@polianad22

@windyshores You mentioned that the Oncotype test is done for 1 - 3 positive sentinel nodes. Would you mind sharing where you found this information?

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I had the OncotypeDX for a Stage 1A tumor with a clean sentinel lymph node biopsy. Allowing the sentinel lymph node biopsy (which I was first disinclined to have), and the OncotypeDX, were the two best decisions I made when first faced with a bad mammogram, ultrasound and vacuum-assisted-wide-needle biopsy that showed cancer.

Those two tests were reassuring about likely recurrence risk, as were some of the online algorithms and consults with a few oncologists, and were the foundation upon which I made subsequent decisions. So I encourage anyone dealing with breast cancer to explore any tests that might provide useful data. None of this stuff is perfect but if all the data combined helps provide a defensible picture of the overall whole situation, as mine did, it helps a lot. And any statistical outliers can trigger further evaluation of a prognosis or treatment plan and that's also valuable.

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@callalloo

I had the OncotypeDX for a Stage 1A tumor with a clean sentinel lymph node biopsy. Allowing the sentinel lymph node biopsy (which I was first disinclined to have), and the OncotypeDX, were the two best decisions I made when first faced with a bad mammogram, ultrasound and vacuum-assisted-wide-needle biopsy that showed cancer.

Those two tests were reassuring about likely recurrence risk, as were some of the online algorithms and consults with a few oncologists, and were the foundation upon which I made subsequent decisions. So I encourage anyone dealing with breast cancer to explore any tests that might provide useful data. None of this stuff is perfect but if all the data combined helps provide a defensible picture of the overall whole situation, as mine did, it helps a lot. And any statistical outliers can trigger further evaluation of a prognosis or treatment plan and that's also valuable.

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I am still waiting for my Oncotype DX test. Surgery was on November 14th.

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@polianad22

I am still waiting for my Oncotype DX test. Surgery was on November 14th.

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I would call the company. Or your doctor. You might also check your portal. But calling the company worked for me.

Oncotype DX tests are produced by Genomic Health, Inc., which is now part of the company Exact Sciences.

Hope this works:

United States, Canada
+1 866-662-6897
Email Customer Service

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Invasive ductal carcinoma
Limph node clear.mass is 6 mm.genetic test is negative

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@nana3131

Invasive ductal carcinoma
Limph node clear.mass is 6 mm.genetic test is negative

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Welcome @nana3131. It looks like you have just been told that you have invasive ductal carcinoma. I moved your message to this exisiting discussion to connect you with other members who have the same diagnosis:

- Invasive ductal carcinoma (IDC) anyone else. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/invasive-duct-ca/

Nana, have you met with the cancer team to discuss treatment options? Will you have surgery?

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@nana3131

Invasive ductal carcinoma
Limph node clear.mass is 6 mm.genetic test is negative

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@nana3131. That sounds like a pretty small tumor. I assume you have had surgery? You should have more information (grade, ER an PR, HER2) from pathology after surgery and in a few weeks, most likely the results of a test called the Oncotype, which will guide your treatment. Best wishes!

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@colleenyoung

Welcome @nana3131. It looks like you have just been told that you have invasive ductal carcinoma. I moved your message to this exisiting discussion to connect you with other members who have the same diagnosis:

- Invasive ductal carcinoma (IDC) anyone else. https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/invasive-duct-ca/

Nana, have you met with the cancer team to discuss treatment options? Will you have surgery?

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Hi
I had lumpectomy. Now waiting for radiation and hormonal therapy

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@nana3131

Hi
I had lumpectomy. Now waiting for radiation and hormonal therapy

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Hi I’m so glad I found you guys .. I was just told that I had Ductal incinoma and I felt so alone and lost 😞 my daughter and I Goggled this and I’m still trying to process this information. So I’ll be meeting with the surgeon 01/15/2023 and I presume that we will go over plan of treatment what stage… but the reason I responded to your comment because of the type of treatment you decided to take which is the one I’m leaning towards if this is an option for me .. I pray for you as well as all the ladies on this site.

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