7% Saline Prescription and Medicare Part B payment quandry

Posted by Elle @ellen1944, Jan 28, 2023

My husband is 81, diagnosed with MAC, and has been on the 3-drug regimen for 2.5 weeks. He uses a nebulizer 2XDay with 7% saline.

Problem: Humana won't cover the saline prescription because they say it is covered under Medicare Part B. But, when filling the saline prescription the pharmacist can't get Medicare Part B to work. Our secondary (not supplemental) health insurance Blue Cross/Blue Shield says (thinks?) it needs to be coded as a durable medical, which neither CVS nor Medicap will use. (It seems to me that while the nebulizer is a durable medical; the saline is more a prescription.) In the meantime, we are paying out-of-pocket for a saline prescription the pulmonologist and all others say should be covered under Medicare Part B. Anyone else had this experience? How was it resolved? Many thanks!

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@liz440

Newbie - I just got off the phone with Medicare part b regarding the 3% solution. At the moment according to a site I am not allowed to list (google drug shortages) there are shortages of the 7 and 3 % etc solutions. I have not found a single pharmacy near me who have it or can get it (the 3% 4 ml size). I was able to find a supplier but it would be extremely costly to buy every month and so I asked medicare part b if they could retroactively cover it and they said no. You have to buy from a company that accepts Medicare. The site I listed above will show suppliers that may have what you need but they are unlikely to take medicare. This is a big problem.

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@sueinmn

Grrr! This should not be so difficult! Nor should CVS be allowed to be so stubborn and still participate in the Medicare program. Once again, as patients we need to be our own advocates. I have worked this out over the years with 4 Walgreens stores in 3 states.
Here is the info from Medicare:
https://www.cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/view/article.aspx?articleId=52466
Medicare Part B covers nebulizer as durable medical equipment, and solutions as supplies. The doctor must provide the proper diagnostic codes. The pharmacy must enter them, and state whether it is the initial nebulizer Rx because they get a dispensing fee, or a subsequent order.
ALL licensed pharmacies that dispense nebulizers and accept Medicare are able to do this, they may need to be TAUGHT how.

CVS Mail Order and Walgreens have both filled my 3% and 7% orders, though sometimes Walgreens must order in the 7% from their warehouse or supplier.

I have found the best way to handle this is with this document in hand, first in the doctor's office, then at the pharmacy. I wouldn't bother if it was a one time thing, but having the Rx covered saves me $30-50 a month, which is not small change.
Sue

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Does Medicare cover PulmoSal (buffered 7% saline)? That is the only kind that my pulmonologist will prescribe because it is gentler on the lungs. I've been paying over $50 out of pocket because my pharmacy (independent, not part of a chain) told me that it is not covered by Medicare or my pharmacy plan, but I'm definitely going to show them what you posted.

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@bklynprof

Does Medicare cover PulmoSal (buffered 7% saline)? That is the only kind that my pulmonologist will prescribe because it is gentler on the lungs. I've been paying over $50 out of pocket because my pharmacy (independent, not part of a chain) told me that it is not covered by Medicare or my pharmacy plan, but I'm definitely going to show them what you posted.

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The short answer is maybe. Part D prescriptions are very cut and dried - there is a formulary, and it is almost impossible to get them to deviate. Part B exceptions are a different - it is dependent on the request for deviation as written by your physician.
Sue

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@bklynprof

Does Medicare cover PulmoSal (buffered 7% saline)? That is the only kind that my pulmonologist will prescribe because it is gentler on the lungs. I've been paying over $50 out of pocket because my pharmacy (independent, not part of a chain) told me that it is not covered by Medicare or my pharmacy plan, but I'm definitely going to show them what you posted.

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I use PulmoSal and my pharmacy charges around $25 a box by using some sort of coupon.

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@irenea8

I use PulmoSal and my pharmacy charges around $25 a box by using some sort of coupon.

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New to this support group; not new to MAC. Not to get off the subject, but does anyone use albuterol versus saline? My pulmonologist prescribed albuterol, and I ordered saline on Amazon for about $19 for a box of 25. The saline wasn't for me. I am finally getting over the after affects of albuterol such as shaky hands and a light head. thanks!

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@irenea8

I use PulmoSal and my pharmacy charges around $25 a box by using some sort of coupon.

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Irenea8, can you tell me what kind of coupon? That would be very helpful.

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@bklynprof

Irenea8, can you tell me what kind of coupon? That would be very helpful.

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I do not know. My pharmacy is very helpful and always looks up coupons for any prescription and then applies them. Probably something like good RX??

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@barbcoll

New to this support group; not new to MAC. Not to get off the subject, but does anyone use albuterol versus saline? My pulmonologist prescribed albuterol, and I ordered saline on Amazon for about $19 for a box of 25. The saline wasn't for me. I am finally getting over the after affects of albuterol such as shaky hands and a light head. thanks!

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When I was diagnosed with MAC a year and half ago, my pulmonologist recommended nebulizing with albuterol AND then 7% saline twice a day. It was not an either/or. Friends in a support group suggested waiting 10 minutes after the albuterol to do the saline. I’ve had the same effects as you (jittery, etc) from albuterol and stopped using it in the evening as sometimes I was too jazzed up to sleep. She didn’t like this and then prescribed levalbuteral with is a little better but I still don’t use late in the evening but always use the saline twice a day. Albuterol opens up the airways but saline thins the mucus to help get it out. Some also say the saline makes it hard for the MAC to flourish.

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Thank you very much. I have learned a lot from reading all the posts from this support group. Your comment about saline thinning the mucus makes sense and saline making it hard for the MAC to flourish is a good reason for me to start adding it to my daily routine!

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@bklynprof

Irenea8, can you tell me what kind of coupon? That would be very helpful.

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Here’s what I found by “googling”.

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