High Cardiac Calcium Score while on Statins

Posted by dma053 @dma053, Jan 22, 2023

Does anyone have a high cardiac calcium score that has already been taking statins? I’m reading that taking statins can cause the score to increase.

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@ponderthis

As I understand it, many people want to take supplements (k2) that has said to reduce calcium in arteries, but it would seem that that's a bad move... wouldn't you want that same calcium available to cover the 'precursors'?

I will watch the Houston Methodist DeBakey CV Education.

Thanks

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there was a recent double blind legit study on otc supplements-all of them i believe-and none-i said none-were proven effective at anything except fleecing the fool from his money

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My former cardiologist invented the calcium score and it enabled me to avoid statins despite having (congenital) high cholesterol when the test yielded a calcium score of 0 and, 7 years later, 4. I take calcium supplements in addition to vitamin D3 and vitamin K2. My current cardiologist notes that "the research suggests" that K2 has some protective ability to prevent arterial calcium build-up and Google Scholar searches on the topic yields research studies on the topic.

Calcium is important in preventing osteoporosis so it gets my attention. And while I'm on the subject, 67% of the cases of osteoporosis in the US are women. Simple arithmetic suggests that more than a third of the cases are in men. But I have yet to hear of one older male friend whose primary care physician suggested a DEXA scan which seems very short-sighted. I don't see any reason why men should have to grow stoop-shouldered and osteo-frail as they age so why aren't doctors addressing this?

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@callalloo

My former cardiologist invented the calcium score and it enabled me to avoid statins despite having (congenital) high cholesterol when the test yielded a calcium score of 0 and, 7 years later, 4. I take calcium supplements in addition to vitamin D3 and vitamin K2. My current cardiologist notes that "the research suggests" that K2 has some protective ability to prevent arterial calcium build-up and Google Scholar searches on the topic yields research studies on the topic.

Calcium is important in preventing osteoporosis so it gets my attention. And while I'm on the subject, 67% of the cases of osteoporosis in the US are women. Simple arithmetic suggests that more than a third of the cases are in men. But I have yet to hear of one older male friend whose primary care physician suggested a DEXA scan which seems very short-sighted. I don't see any reason why men should have to grow stoop-shouldered and osteo-frail as they age so why aren't doctors addressing this?

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point well taken. who cares if you were "kept" off statins? Why is it so important to the quacksters? Never could understand it, but happy your numbers appear to be under control.

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@callalloo

My former cardiologist invented the calcium score and it enabled me to avoid statins despite having (congenital) high cholesterol when the test yielded a calcium score of 0 and, 7 years later, 4. I take calcium supplements in addition to vitamin D3 and vitamin K2. My current cardiologist notes that "the research suggests" that K2 has some protective ability to prevent arterial calcium build-up and Google Scholar searches on the topic yields research studies on the topic.

Calcium is important in preventing osteoporosis so it gets my attention. And while I'm on the subject, 67% of the cases of osteoporosis in the US are women. Simple arithmetic suggests that more than a third of the cases are in men. But I have yet to hear of one older male friend whose primary care physician suggested a DEXA scan which seems very short-sighted. I don't see any reason why men should have to grow stoop-shouldered and osteo-frail as they age so why aren't doctors addressing this?

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@callalloo , how old were you when you had high cholesterol and a calcium score of 0 and 4?

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@dma053

Yes - I was already taking 5 mg Crestor - doc increased it to 20mg. I read online that statins can cause calcium score to increase so I was wondering if anyone else has similar experience?

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I found this very helpful. The composition of plaque changes with statin. https://www.verywellhealth.com/statins-and-your-calcium-scores-1746355

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@ponderthis

@callalloo , how old were you when you had high cholesterol and a calcium score of 0 and 4?

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Do NOT take supplemental calcium. Very bad.

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Statins raise score. That is a good thing

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I just had a calcium score done and it was 710. I am 68 and am on medication for high blood pressure & Cholesterol. I was diagnosed with hypertension when I was 30 and put in medication. My Dad had hypertension and open heart surgery at 64. He passed 12 years later. My Mom and my grandmom, her mother both passed of a heart attack in their sleep at 58. My mother was not being treating as she would not go to the doctor, my grandmother was being treated for heart issues. In January of this year, my LDL is 98, total cholesterol is 186, HDL is 74, my blood pressure runs 131/76. I do have moderate aortic atherosclerosis. I know that score is high, Using the Mesa calculator it states I have a 13.5% 10 risk CHD event. I am assuming that is high risk. I had a stress test last year & passed and an EKG in April before my hip replacement 5/8 and everything was good. If you go by the internet, I will be dead in 3 years. Before my hip replacement, I was walking 2 miles, 3 times per week. Not sure what to believe.

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@nora22

I just had a calcium score done and it was 710. I am 68 and am on medication for high blood pressure & Cholesterol. I was diagnosed with hypertension when I was 30 and put in medication. My Dad had hypertension and open heart surgery at 64. He passed 12 years later. My Mom and my grandmom, her mother both passed of a heart attack in their sleep at 58. My mother was not being treating as she would not go to the doctor, my grandmother was being treated for heart issues. In January of this year, my LDL is 98, total cholesterol is 186, HDL is 74, my blood pressure runs 131/76. I do have moderate aortic atherosclerosis. I know that score is high, Using the Mesa calculator it states I have a 13.5% 10 risk CHD event. I am assuming that is high risk. I had a stress test last year & passed and an EKG in April before my hip replacement 5/8 and everything was good. If you go by the internet, I will be dead in 3 years. Before my hip replacement, I was walking 2 miles, 3 times per week. Not sure what to believe.

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"Believe" is sort of the wrong word to use.

There are so many differences between humans and their genetic makeup.

You didn't note:
- BMI
- metrics from stress test
- whether you are taking statins, and for how long
- triglycerides

Given your CAC score you should lower your LDL. Your BP might be considered to be a bit high, as well.

Consider getting an advanced lipids panel done ... sometimes called Cardio IQ by Quest.

A "stress with echo" would also be helpful to assess, as well as a nuclear stress test.

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