Integrative medicine questions about efficacy and insurance

Posted by dsv @dsv, Jan 17, 2023

On the overview page for integrative medicine, it states "Integrative approaches are used to help people with medical conditions — including cancer, chronic fatigue, chronic pain, fibromyalgia, diabetes and many others — feel better by reducing fatigue, nausea, pain and anxiety. "
Does anyone have any experience with what methods they use to reduce nausea? What about pain?
Does anyone have any experience in whether or not BCBS as a PPO covers their integrative treatment?
Thank you for any answers you all may provide.

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Hello @dsv, Welcome to Connect. I'm assuming you are talking about the Mayo Clinic page on Integrative Medicine and Health here - https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/integrative-medicine-health/sections/overview/ovc-20464567.

Here is one example of a discussion where members are sharing experiences and information on different sources of pain:
-- Myofascial Release Therapy (MFR) for treating compression and pain: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/myofascial-release-therapy-mfr-for-treating-compression-and-pain/.

Here's some information on 4 Natural Remedies for Nausea - https://www.everydayhealth.com/digestive-health/natural-remedies-for-nausea/.

You should be able to find out what is covered by calling the number on the back of your BCBS insurance card or going to the website and logging into your member account.

Are you investigating integrative medicine treatments for a specific condition?

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Thank you Sir for your reply. My insurance is a headache. BCBS is just a re-pricing agent and I was wondering if others knew how integrative medicine division billed. Do they use billable codes covered by most insurance or do patients end up paying out of pocket for most everything. (Example, does myofascial release get billed as PT treatment or is it considered a massage which isn't covered.)
I've been advised i have multiple different auto immune (scleroderma, Sjogren's, hashimotos) as well as autonomic challenges (POTS, MCAS, etc) and other challenges that i have no clue what they are classified under, all i know is each day is getting more challenging and there seems to be no answer or help.
If the 4 everyday health natural remedies are pretty much the only ways nausea is helped.... then there is no need for me to spend time and money i don't have to seek appointments.
I greatly appreciate your reply and the information you shared. Thank you.

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@dsv

Thank you Sir for your reply. My insurance is a headache. BCBS is just a re-pricing agent and I was wondering if others knew how integrative medicine division billed. Do they use billable codes covered by most insurance or do patients end up paying out of pocket for most everything. (Example, does myofascial release get billed as PT treatment or is it considered a massage which isn't covered.)
I've been advised i have multiple different auto immune (scleroderma, Sjogren's, hashimotos) as well as autonomic challenges (POTS, MCAS, etc) and other challenges that i have no clue what they are classified under, all i know is each day is getting more challenging and there seems to be no answer or help.
If the 4 everyday health natural remedies are pretty much the only ways nausea is helped.... then there is no need for me to spend time and money i don't have to seek appointments.
I greatly appreciate your reply and the information you shared. Thank you.

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Sorry for any confusion @dsv. The 4 everyday health natural remedies, as well as, Myofascial Release Therapy are not part Mayo Clinic's Integrative Medicine but just information shared that others have found helpful for different conditions. You might want to look at specific discussions for the conditions you listed to see what others have shared. Here are a few but you can easily search the list of discussions on the Connect home page here by typing a condition in the search box above the list of discussions (not the one on the top of the page) - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/.

Here are a few that I found:
-- Anyone have Scleroderma?:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/scleroderma-limited/
-- Highly recommend Dr. Griffing's Video Q&A about Scleroderma:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/highly-recommend-dr-griffings-1115-scleroderma-video-a-question/
--Sjogren’s Syndrome – Introduce yourself and meet others:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/sjogrens/
-- Sjogren's, Hashimoto's and Thyroid Dysfunction: Got questions:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/sjogrenshashimoto/

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@johnbishop

Sorry for any confusion @dsv. The 4 everyday health natural remedies, as well as, Myofascial Release Therapy are not part Mayo Clinic's Integrative Medicine but just information shared that others have found helpful for different conditions. You might want to look at specific discussions for the conditions you listed to see what others have shared. Here are a few but you can easily search the list of discussions on the Connect home page here by typing a condition in the search box above the list of discussions (not the one on the top of the page) - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/.

Here are a few that I found:
-- Anyone have Scleroderma?:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/scleroderma-limited/
-- Highly recommend Dr. Griffing's Video Q&A about Scleroderma:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/highly-recommend-dr-griffings-1115-scleroderma-video-a-question/
--Sjogren’s Syndrome – Introduce yourself and meet others:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/sjogrens/
-- Sjogren's, Hashimoto's and Thyroid Dysfunction: Got questions:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/sjogrenshashimoto/

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No need to apologize. I greatly appreciate the information you have shared. Thank you for the additional links.

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I have just started with an integrative medicine MD. I have BC/BS. They do not cover any of the treatments. They covered some of the tests. I am going thru chelation and blood ozone treatments. I am taking low dose Naltrexone…4.5 mg. I will update you as time goes on. My friends who are going to this doctor are very happy with the results!

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@momsys

I have just started with an integrative medicine MD. I have BC/BS. They do not cover any of the treatments. They covered some of the tests. I am going thru chelation and blood ozone treatments. I am taking low dose Naltrexone…4.5 mg. I will update you as time goes on. My friends who are going to this doctor are very happy with the results!

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I to have been seeing a Integrative MD for IV ozone treatments, along with a detox protocol for aspergillus. Also on LDN 4mg and HQC. I would love to connect and hear the symptoms your being treated for, integrative MD diagnosis vs traditional (western) MD diagnosis.

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@shelf

I to have been seeing a Integrative MD for IV ozone treatments, along with a detox protocol for aspergillus. Also on LDN 4mg and HQC. I would love to connect and hear the symptoms your being treated for, integrative MD diagnosis vs traditional (western) MD diagnosis.

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I have only had two visits. Not all the test results are in yet. I have had one chelation treatment with a test for heavy metals. I will update when I know more about the treatments. How long have you been seeing the Integrative MD? Are the treatments working?

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Ozone therapy is controversial, but it may show promise.

Currently, the FDA doesn’t approve the use of ozone therapy. It has said that ozone has “no known useful medical application.” In 2019, the FDA released a warning about inhaling ozone because it can irritate the lungs and cause fluid buildup that makes it difficult to breathe.

There are significant dangers when using ozone intravenously, at high doses, or for a long time. Talk with your healthcare provider about all of the possible risks and weigh them against the potential benefits.

There also aren’t enough large long-term studies to understand all potential adverse effects. New clinical trials for ozone therapy uses are in the works.

Read more in this article.
- Ozone Therapy: What It Is and Why It’s Risky https://health.clevelandclinic.org/ozone-therapy/

As always, do your due diligence when researching treatment options. All information shared by members on the Mayo Clinic Connect is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding your health. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on the community.

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My goal is to get rid of all these pills that I take. My integrative medicine doctor is a well respected MD.

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