What helps improve osteoporosis without medication?

Posted by imatine @imatine, Dec 4, 2020

Hello, did anyone here try to heal from osteoporosis away from all the prescribed medications we all know of? Did you try following a specific diet? Excercise? Meditation, etc. ? Thank you

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Algaecall plus strontium , organic sillica lactoferrin also excersize , natto has a lot of vit k haven't had dexi scan to see if bone density improved does anyone have Info??

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@barbakp

Hi Teri..
I was interested in the vibration plate since seeing a fascinating interview with the inventor. YouTube video by Margaret Martin (on her channel) called “Does Vibration Therapy Improve Osteoporosis “ .. sounded so promising and I do remember him saying there is a vibration frequency that is the limit ..after that it is useless…and it seemed so little!
The Algaecal… Is that the supplement I’ve seen advertised? Any info on the legitimacy? Goodness, the supplement industry is just the Wild West and unfortunately you have to dig ..thus I seek out sites to read stories from like minded individuals to help. I just got my diagnosis Saturday and have had 3 days of overload!
Also, FYI, Margaret Martin specializes in osteoporosis exercises..(and others… but this is her specialty now) I have started and enjoy so much.
I have enjoyed your input..and any info you have on the vibration machine.
Thanks! Barb

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Hi @barbakp, I stopped using the high intensity vibration exerciser I was using (twice a day for nine months) after watching Margaret Martin's video on vibration plates exercisers. Both she and Sara Meeks endorse the Marodyne LIV, but it costs about $4k (last time I checked) so I'll stick with Dr. Fishman's yoga routine, and walking. I also have a stepper I should hop on once in a while, but I help my husband with his hip exercises. Not enough time!!! I don't know anything about Algaecal. I just heard about this study yesterday, posted on National Institute of Health, "Combination of Micronutrients for Bone (COMB) Study: Bone Density after Micronutrient Intervention" but I haven't read it yet. A physivcal therapist from Bellingham WA has a video on it, if you're interested. You'll have to search, I didn't make a note of it. Sorry!

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Took foaomax for 10 weeks. Was awful. Not continuing with it. Felt like poison. Any ideas

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@tsc

Hi @barbakp, I stopped using the high intensity vibration exerciser I was using (twice a day for nine months) after watching Margaret Martin's video on vibration plates exercisers. Both she and Sara Meeks endorse the Marodyne LIV, but it costs about $4k (last time I checked) so I'll stick with Dr. Fishman's yoga routine, and walking. I also have a stepper I should hop on once in a while, but I help my husband with his hip exercises. Not enough time!!! I don't know anything about Algaecal. I just heard about this study yesterday, posted on National Institute of Health, "Combination of Micronutrients for Bone (COMB) Study: Bone Density after Micronutrient Intervention" but I haven't read it yet. A physivcal therapist from Bellingham WA has a video on it, if you're interested. You'll have to search, I didn't make a note of it. Sorry!

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So nice of you to reply! I certainly can’t afford the vibration machine.. I heard from the company and the cost is extreme for me!
I’m so interested in knowing how many people are taking the medications or trying this journey doing research. I feel like my life is consumed looking at information. I love Sarah Meeks.. your recommendation was right on! Susan Brown on Better Bones has helped with info..and especially Dr Ken Landowner on Wellnowdoctor on the drugs and osteoporosis.
This has become my life. Overwhelmed.

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@maureentb

Took foaomax for 10 weeks. Was awful. Not continuing with it. Felt like poison. Any ideas

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I took it years ago when it first came out. It was awful! At first, they had thought it was heart, healthy, and they discovered side effects so they took me off of it. That was on 1995.
I now I hear that the drug lasts in your body for 10 years! jeez! And the side effects! Awful…
Dr Ken Landow has a great video on Fosamax, other drugs and another on Osteoporosis. His YouTube channel is WELLNOWDOCTOR.
Finding answers is a full time job!

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@rhodee

Algaecall plus strontium , organic sillica lactoferrin also excersize , natto has a lot of vit k haven't had dexi scan to see if bone density improved does anyone have Info??

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Rhodee
I hope someone answers this.. I have wondered. I know strontium is used in the Uk and there are side effects, but results! There is also a book about vit K2 suggesting the k should be separate and increased to 120-200 mcg to maximize and help with brain health too.so much information out there snd I wish I had a clinician here to talk to. Everyone pushes the drugs and I’m terrified of them.
Good luck!

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@maureentb

Took foaomax for 10 weeks. Was awful. Not continuing with it. Felt like poison. Any ideas

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If you cannot tolerate Fosamax, your insurance may cover Tymlos, Forteo or Evenity. I feel so much better on Tymlos after fracturing. As I have written frequently, I started with two out of 8 clicks and have been on 7 for a year. You have many options. If your DEXA is not severe, you may have natural ways to help as well.

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@barbakp

So nice of you to reply! I certainly can’t afford the vibration machine.. I heard from the company and the cost is extreme for me!
I’m so interested in knowing how many people are taking the medications or trying this journey doing research. I feel like my life is consumed looking at information. I love Sarah Meeks.. your recommendation was right on! Susan Brown on Better Bones has helped with info..and especially Dr Ken Landowner on Wellnowdoctor on the drugs and osteoporosis.
This has become my life. Overwhelmed.

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Hi @barbakp, It was overwhelming for me for quite a while as well. My mother and my aunts had severe osteoporosis and I was always an avid exerciser trying to keep it at bay, but that wasn't enough. I had a number of other risk factors working against me. I elected to take alendronate, reluctantly. I'm doing the yoga daily and also taking some supplements. I hope to read the COMB study and discuss with my rheumatologist next week. I haven't had any side effects from the alendronate so far, but if I could improve my bone density and get off it, I'd be happy.

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@tsc

Hi @barbakp, I stopped using the high intensity vibration exerciser I was using (twice a day for nine months) after watching Margaret Martin's video on vibration plates exercisers. Both she and Sara Meeks endorse the Marodyne LIV, but it costs about $4k (last time I checked) so I'll stick with Dr. Fishman's yoga routine, and walking. I also have a stepper I should hop on once in a while, but I help my husband with his hip exercises. Not enough time!!! I don't know anything about Algaecal. I just heard about this study yesterday, posted on National Institute of Health, "Combination of Micronutrients for Bone (COMB) Study: Bone Density after Micronutrient Intervention" but I haven't read it yet. A physivcal therapist from Bellingham WA has a video on it, if you're interested. You'll have to search, I didn't make a note of it. Sorry!

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I can't resist looking at research so found the article you referred to and it seems very promising. (With a strontium caveat noted below.) The abstract excerpt below makes an argument for at least looking at supplements to address osteoporosis, if only as an additional protocol to prescription drugs.

A long version of the article suggests that osteoporosis may, in part, be a result of nutritional deficiencies.

At any rate this study suggests that the supplements given were possibly as effective as some common prescription drugs for osteoporosis. [Note the caveat that they included strontium. So if the measure of success is DEXA scores, the strontium maybe throwing that off considerably.] I hadn't looked at DHA yet so am curious about it too.

The excerpt is from the abstract at the URL cited People can search under the same title for the complete article.
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"After 12 months of consecutive supplemental micronutrient therapy with a combination that included vitamin D(3), vitamin K(2), strontium, magnesium and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA), repeat bone densitometry was performed. The results were analyzed in a group of compliant patients and demonstrate improved BMD in patients classified with normal, osteopenic and osteoporotic bone density. According to the results, this combined micronutrient supplementation regimen appears to be at least as effective as bisphosphonates or strontium ranelate in raising BMD levels in hip, spine, and femoral neck sites. No fractures occurred in the group taking the micronutrient protocol. This micronutrient regimen also appears to show efficacy in individuals where bisphosphonate therapy was previously unsuccessful in maintaining or raising BMD. Prospective clinical trials are required to confirm efficacy."

From "Combination of Micronutrients for Bone (COMB) Study: bone density after micronutrient intervention"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22291722/
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@callalloo

I can't resist looking at research so found the article you referred to and it seems very promising. (With a strontium caveat noted below.) The abstract excerpt below makes an argument for at least looking at supplements to address osteoporosis, if only as an additional protocol to prescription drugs.

A long version of the article suggests that osteoporosis may, in part, be a result of nutritional deficiencies.

At any rate this study suggests that the supplements given were possibly as effective as some common prescription drugs for osteoporosis. [Note the caveat that they included strontium. So if the measure of success is DEXA scores, the strontium maybe throwing that off considerably.] I hadn't looked at DHA yet so am curious about it too.

The excerpt is from the abstract at the URL cited People can search under the same title for the complete article.
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"After 12 months of consecutive supplemental micronutrient therapy with a combination that included vitamin D(3), vitamin K(2), strontium, magnesium and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA), repeat bone densitometry was performed. The results were analyzed in a group of compliant patients and demonstrate improved BMD in patients classified with normal, osteopenic and osteoporotic bone density. According to the results, this combined micronutrient supplementation regimen appears to be at least as effective as bisphosphonates or strontium ranelate in raising BMD levels in hip, spine, and femoral neck sites. No fractures occurred in the group taking the micronutrient protocol. This micronutrient regimen also appears to show efficacy in individuals where bisphosphonate therapy was previously unsuccessful in maintaining or raising BMD. Prospective clinical trials are required to confirm efficacy."

From "Combination of Micronutrients for Bone (COMB) Study: bone density after micronutrient intervention"

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22291722/

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I wonder what dose of strontium. Therapeutic dose I have seen cited was 680mg daily. That dose would improve the reading on a DEXA. Did this study take that into account?

I also wonder about the ages of the women in the study, since menopause is such a strong factor in bone loss.

DHA thins blood and poses risk to anyone with a fish allergy. I haven't seen it presented as of benefit for bones so this is interesting.

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