Celebrating without alcohol

Posted by jackiez @jackiez, Jun 16, 2022

Based on my response to another thread, @rosemarya suggested I start a discussion on celebrating without alcohol.
The summer is filled with picnics, weddings, barbecues, and pool parties. People often enjoy a cold beer, wine or drink at these events. But many of us are not able to partake in an alcoholic beverage. And although we are all so happy to be able to enjoy these events with our friends and family, it is still an adjustment, and sometimes challenging, to explain why we cannot drink. And you can only drink so much pop, water or lemonade.
The good news is that there are also many people like us, for various reasons, that abstain from alcohol. And where there is demand, an industry grows. The options for non alcoholic wine, beer and spirits has taken off. Now it’s much easier to sample a few non alcoholic beverages at home and then bring your own beer, wine or spirits to the picnic or party.
Recently I had lunch with 3 of my girlfriends. Besides myself, two others are unable to drink due to medical issues/medication. One friend had been doing a lot of research and sampling and brought a few white wines for us to share. They were very good. And because she is also on weight watchers, they were low in sugar too. We had a lovely lunch sitting outside sipping our white ‘wine’. Based on her suggestions, the de-alcoholized wines are better.
Also at a recent cookout a male friend who is no longer able to drink (we’re in our mid 50s-these things happen) brought a six pack of Coors Edge. In talking with him, this is his favorite non alcoholic beer. But there are many others to try too.
And apparently you can also find non alcoholic hard liquor if you prefer something besides wine and beer.
Now, when I’m headed to a cookout or party, I throw a bottle of my favorite non-alcoholic beverage in the cooler and I’m ready to go!

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@mollyv

@jackiez I’ve been sober for nearly 40 years and am always on the lookout for good non- alcoholic beverages. I don’t have them often, but I do like a little something now and again. My current favorite is Heineken 0.0. I was never a fan of regular Heineken, but this beer is delicious and not at all bitter. Very refreshing on a hot day! Good luck in searching out alternatives!

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Thanks for the suggestion! Sometimes you just miss the taste of something and this sounds like a good alternative.

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@rosemarya

My husband and I will be celebrating our 47th wedding anniversary next week.
In the years before liver disease and liver/kidney transplant, we used to enjoy a glass of wine with our meal. We have not done that for at least 20 years due to my liver diagnosis and transplant in 2009. Our special toast this year will be with iced tea! Not fancy, is it? But it has become a tradition that has evolved for us.

When family gathers for holidays, I prefer water, in a pretty glass and crushed ice. A spritz of lemon or lime is a nice addition.

What are some non-alcoholic beverage ideas that work for you? Do you like flavored water? Commercial products? Flavored tea? Soda? Lemonade? ... Who has a recipe to share?

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Congrats on 47 yrs . We've been married 42 but now with getting recurrent hcc back only 6 mon after liver transplant we worry what are future holds . We opted for the yeast Aggressive treatment which was Excision of his gastric lymph nodes .They think a few cell could have been hidden under liver and immunos helped it grow . We just got back good news hcc was only in 1 lymph node and this is considered localized. So surgery was considered a curative treatment If it hasn't already spread . Because he already had a liver transplant and did really well .Out of the hospital in 5 days hes like a Oddity because his liver is really healthy and he was too thats why he qualified for surgery and it being localized. So there Really isn't Clinical Guidelines for this type of Patient .So Iam looking for a Group thats Called Recurrent HCC after Liver Transplant .And Especially a good Oncologist and Hospital that deals with Immunotherapy And has Alot of Clinical trials .We have a HMO so I m trying to see about 2nd opinions but it will be out of network .We have a Excellent policy and I was told it just has to be approved .If anyone has any knowledge of good Oncologist or Hmo referral to Mayo. I'd Greatly Appreciate Anything .Its soo hard to do this on my own between all the Drs apots and phone calls Thank You

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@suzy212

Congrats on 47 yrs . We've been married 42 but now with getting recurrent hcc back only 6 mon after liver transplant we worry what are future holds . We opted for the yeast Aggressive treatment which was Excision of his gastric lymph nodes .They think a few cell could have been hidden under liver and immunos helped it grow . We just got back good news hcc was only in 1 lymph node and this is considered localized. So surgery was considered a curative treatment If it hasn't already spread . Because he already had a liver transplant and did really well .Out of the hospital in 5 days hes like a Oddity because his liver is really healthy and he was too thats why he qualified for surgery and it being localized. So there Really isn't Clinical Guidelines for this type of Patient .So Iam looking for a Group thats Called Recurrent HCC after Liver Transplant .And Especially a good Oncologist and Hospital that deals with Immunotherapy And has Alot of Clinical trials .We have a HMO so I m trying to see about 2nd opinions but it will be out of network .We have a Excellent policy and I was told it just has to be approved .If anyone has any knowledge of good Oncologist or Hmo referral to Mayo. I'd Greatly Appreciate Anything .Its soo hard to do this on my own between all the Drs apots and phone calls Thank You

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@suzy212, Is this the discussion that you are looking for?
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/recurrent-liver-cancer-after-liver-transplant/
If you want to contact the Mayo Clinic Liver Transplant Department (which I recommend) here is some information and the contact phone or email where you can ask your questions about referral and or oncology treatment after liver transplant for your husband.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/liver-transplant/home/orc-20211818

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Where is everybody? Has anyone discovered a new 'treat' beverage, perhaps over 4th of July or Labor Day ?
My husband and I were traveling recently and had the benefit of a large porch/balcony at the Crater National Park Lodge - with rocking chairs overlooking the magnificent lake. On a particular warm afternoon, I decided to have something different than my usual water from my hiking bottle. I asked for a glass of cranberry juice with ice. I know, it was no big deal! However it must have looked good with those little stir sticks because a woman sitting near me couldn't decide on a beverage to order from the bar. She walked over to me and asked what I was drinking! I don't know what she ordered, but I felt rather proud of my choice 😎

-With Summer and outdoor events coming to an end, I am thinking about tea, cider, or "I don't know - What would be your choice of a special occasion comfort beverage?

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In the summer I love ginger beer (no alcohol), cranberry, seltzer and lime juice. Fall is putting good local cider (plentiful in New England), warming it up with cinnamon sticks. And good black tea with milk and sugar.

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@rosemarya

Where is everybody? Has anyone discovered a new 'treat' beverage, perhaps over 4th of July or Labor Day ?
My husband and I were traveling recently and had the benefit of a large porch/balcony at the Crater National Park Lodge - with rocking chairs overlooking the magnificent lake. On a particular warm afternoon, I decided to have something different than my usual water from my hiking bottle. I asked for a glass of cranberry juice with ice. I know, it was no big deal! However it must have looked good with those little stir sticks because a woman sitting near me couldn't decide on a beverage to order from the bar. She walked over to me and asked what I was drinking! I don't know what she ordered, but I felt rather proud of my choice 😎

-With Summer and outdoor events coming to an end, I am thinking about tea, cider, or "I don't know - What would be your choice of a special occasion comfort beverage?

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I love that picture with your hiking boots!

Cranberry juice, or apple cranberry juice with a splash of Sprite, over ice. My fall back is crushed ice and water. For the cooler months, a cup of flavored tea that usually has cinnamon in it. The aroma is warming in itself!
Ginger

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I too have found my way to ginger beer ( Fevertree my favorite brand) with unsweetened cranberry juice. Tangy and refreshing. (I also have used a lenon lime seltzer with cranberry juice too.)

For protein (and a meal) I drink a raspberry apricot smoothie - frozen fresh raspberries, a splash of unsweetened almond milk, scoop of whey protein (25 g of protein) and a larger splash of apricot nectar. You can use cranberry juice or other nectars like mango for variety as well as other berry choices. As you can tell I am not a fan of sweet and prefer flavorful and tangy. Barbara

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@rosemarya

Where is everybody? Has anyone discovered a new 'treat' beverage, perhaps over 4th of July or Labor Day ?
My husband and I were traveling recently and had the benefit of a large porch/balcony at the Crater National Park Lodge - with rocking chairs overlooking the magnificent lake. On a particular warm afternoon, I decided to have something different than my usual water from my hiking bottle. I asked for a glass of cranberry juice with ice. I know, it was no big deal! However it must have looked good with those little stir sticks because a woman sitting near me couldn't decide on a beverage to order from the bar. She walked over to me and asked what I was drinking! I don't know what she ordered, but I felt rather proud of my choice 😎

-With Summer and outdoor events coming to an end, I am thinking about tea, cider, or "I don't know - What would be your choice of a special occasion comfort beverage?

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Hi Rosemary! This drinking conversation came at a good time for me, so thank you. As you may remember, I was pre-qualified for a double lung transplant. I am still not in bad enough shape to get 'listed' yet, but, the time is drawing near. My bloodwork revealed that I was an above average drinker (heavy drinker), and this shocked me into quitting altogether. I had never considered myself to be a heavy drinker because I did not drink myself into drunkeness. I was raised in the South where we had Happy Hour every night; just one glass of wine, sometimes two, or a one high-ball. I have found that my drinking just before dinnertime had changed from a social thing to a necessary thing for me as my disease worsened. I would be so exhausted by 5 pm that I could barely get through cooking dinner. A glass of wine would help to take the exhausted feeling away long enough for me to cook and clean up. My daughter's boyfriend is a wine rep, so he brings delicious wines to our house (which doesn't help). Anyway, I have quit the alcohol altogether recently. As for a substitute 'adult beverage', I am not interested. I was more into the beverage helping me to unwind or take the edge off of exhaustion; not for the flavor. I have now resigned myself that I now have limitations and my husband and daughter now have to pick up the slack. My beverage schedule was 2 cups of coffee in the morning, water all day, a glass (or two) of wine at 5. Now, it is just the coffee and water and occasional fruit juice. Sounds boring, but, beverages never excited me; only food!

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@windwalker

Hi Rosemary! This drinking conversation came at a good time for me, so thank you. As you may remember, I was pre-qualified for a double lung transplant. I am still not in bad enough shape to get 'listed' yet, but, the time is drawing near. My bloodwork revealed that I was an above average drinker (heavy drinker), and this shocked me into quitting altogether. I had never considered myself to be a heavy drinker because I did not drink myself into drunkeness. I was raised in the South where we had Happy Hour every night; just one glass of wine, sometimes two, or a one high-ball. I have found that my drinking just before dinnertime had changed from a social thing to a necessary thing for me as my disease worsened. I would be so exhausted by 5 pm that I could barely get through cooking dinner. A glass of wine would help to take the exhausted feeling away long enough for me to cook and clean up. My daughter's boyfriend is a wine rep, so he brings delicious wines to our house (which doesn't help). Anyway, I have quit the alcohol altogether recently. As for a substitute 'adult beverage', I am not interested. I was more into the beverage helping me to unwind or take the edge off of exhaustion; not for the flavor. I have now resigned myself that I now have limitations and my husband and daughter now have to pick up the slack. My beverage schedule was 2 cups of coffee in the morning, water all day, a glass (or two) of wine at 5. Now, it is just the coffee and water and occasional fruit juice. Sounds boring, but, beverages never excited me; only food!

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Terri, I want to commend you for acting upon the abnormal blood results.

I live in Central Kentucky surrounded by distilleries, in fact one is being developed right behind our neighborhood. The Bourbon Trail which is a big tourist draw with tours and tasting rooms goes thru town.
-Have you ever had a conversation with daughter's boyfriend about alcohol free wines? I am not suggesting for you, but as a source of education for him about the need for a population of non-drinkers like us? When I have inquired at several establishments, I feel like I am asking the impossible.

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This conversation was very interesting. I am almost 2yrs LT and I always enjoyed a cocktail or sometimes over indulging on football weekends.
I have not had a drink in over 3yrs. but the mock cocktails sound delightful. TY😊

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