Neuropathy caused by toxins, poisons and chemicals

I've been fighting against Roundup for over a decade including when taking Master Gardener classes in Palm Beach County but the risks were ignored. Maybe we can finally start to get this stuff out of the soil and food?

"World's most popular weed killer Roundup causes dramatic convulsions in worms even at low concentrations- and may affect the nervous systems of other animals and even humans, study warns."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11141171/Worlds-popular-weed-killer-Roundup-causes-dramatic-convulsions-worms-study-warns.html

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-25/vitamin-supplements-lead-to-b6-toxcity-and-chronic-illness/101351800. Here is information related to b6 causing neuropathy.

@bb0753 There's also a discussion on the topic.

-- B-6 vitamin danger!: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/b-6-vitamin-danger/

John - went back and found this post. I had an appointment yesterday with my neurologist and this time, we spent an hour discussing current symptoms and we got into my past. I have idiopathic axonal sensory motor PN and we went over about 6 or 7 of the most common causes. I guess the doc had a little extra time on this appointment! Nothing peeked my doc's interest until we got to subject of toxins and all of a sudden, there was interest. In our small town, when I was a kid back in the late 50's and into the 60's, during the summer months, many seaside towns would spray for bugs and there is a possibility that the toxins used back then could be a cause for polyneuropathy. Many kids back then would chase down "the sprayer machine" not knowing then how it could impact their life now. Just thought I'd share what I found out. Possible? Doc thinks so. If my doctor is right, I can't be the only one.

Hi Ed, It's good to hear you peeked your doc's interest. There are a lot of toxins that we used with much abandon in the old days. I remember the old orange grove smudge pots growing up in California. Going to school breathing that junk on cold mornings and blowing your nose only to see all that dark junk come out.

Never chased any sprayers but in the old days planes would fly over large communities and spray for mosquitoes which affected anyone in the area. Hoping you find some answers from your doc.

Well Ed - I'll google for kicks. Today we hear a lot (whether true or false) about Round-up and things, so why not old mosquito sprays? Growing up on the Delmarva peninsula, I was in a mosquito infested environment being so close to the Chesapeake Bay, Ocean, and marshland. And yes, we kids loved to chase mosquito spray trucks (in the 60's & 70"s) and inhale the fumes. I personally am a live mosquito magnet wherever I live, so I've lived with constant layers of OFF on my body and endured many mosquito bites. Interesting thought.. Debbie

Deb, same with me, I've lived on the far southern end of the Jersey shore and the mosquitoes were horrible! Our town sprayed early evenings and kids ran behind the truck. Who knew? For me, the take-away from all of this is that during our lifetime, we encountered toxic chemicals, heavy anti-biotics and other medications that are possibly linked to PN. We can't change the past. And besides, even if we are able to determine the PAST cause of why a person develops PN, what change will that make? No med will fix this. In my case as in many others, according to my neuro doc, the damage is done. Again, sharing of information in this journey is helpful.

Agree that past knowledge won’t help the fact that whatever we have and however we may have gotten it won’t help us now and we need to do our best to live with it and maximize what we can do to make life easier for ourselves by choice; but I’m also ok with being a Guinea pig or piece of data that can help teach parents and companies build better products and make wiser decisions to make healthier people for future generations.

Totally agree and well put! Things have come a long way in the past 30 - 50 years and in the case of PN, I do believe that in time, the medical community will develop ways to determine many of the causes of those labeled idiopathic. Millions of people suffer from this and some more than others. What makes this so difficult is that the sensations and symptoms vary to a huge degree. But, whatever the cause, the desire to find out why one has this can be worse than the disease itself. I'm in my 7th year and the more I am accepting this as the way it will be with no cure makes me focus more on making the best of what I do have and what I can do. I've always looked at the glass being half full and will continue to do so. Remain as positive as you can.

Well John, my brother and I are proof of what toxins can do to the human body. My brother James was in the Vietnam War and as you can guess, he was exposed to the oh so familiar Agent Orange. Zip forward to the 1990’s and my brother began to get sick. He was sick from cancer, Multiple Myeloma to be exact. As the cancer robbed him of his legs and paralyzed them, he finally died in agony in 1999.

Now for me, back in 1970’s, I moved back to the house I grew up in. My maternal grandfather was Native American, naturally I enjoy being around Mother Nature. So with a 12’ by 100’ yard, I began to plant a garden the entire length. For the next 33 years, I used a well known weed killer mentioned by another poster. I never used it directly in my garden but used it to kill weeds in the yards on either side of mine. I assume because of a slight downward slope to the yards, when it rained it leached into my yard and garden. So for 33 years, I ate tainted vegetables from my garden until I moved into a high rise building in 2013.

In 2019, I was having major health issues and requested my PCP to do some specialized blood work. In 48 hours, I was contacted by our cancer clinic requesting I be seen by an Oncologist/Hematologist. In 2013, I had two moles removed and both were classified as Precancerous. It was because of that information, I was so scared since the 2013 incident, that I had or was getting cancer. Well, I was diagnosed with what is classified as Kappa light chain IgM, MGUS, which is rare. Its been progressing towards Non Hodgkin’s Lymphoma or a rarer form called Waldenstrom Macroglobulemia. It’s been progressing more quickly since September of 2021 and increased 125% since December 2021. My levels of B cells are below normal along with my lymphocytes and other parts of my blood. Since May 2022, my M-Spike has increased to the level indicating progression of the mutated cells. Right now, I can feel my body’s under attack especially in the bones. Will I sue the company mentioned, what’s the sense, I’ll be 80 next year with no one to leave any money I was awarded. Besides, my heart’s barely pumping it’s so fragile. So look how long it took my brother and I to fall victim to a toxin. My advice, watch your body for clues, if you’re exposed to a toxin, it could take 20, 30 or more years to finally affect you.