Fosamax or Exercise?

Posted by msou @msou, Jul 4, 2022

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Fosamax or Exercise? (Fosamax-or-Exercise.pdf)

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I'd be curious to read the text but am wary about downloading any files. Is this an article for which you can provide a URL?

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@callalloo

I'd be curious to read the text but am wary about downloading any files. Is this an article for which you can provide a URL?

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Hi @callalloo, You do not need to “download” any file. Just click under Shared Files named Fosamax or Exercise (in blue color). It is a link itself. When click it, the file will open for you to read.

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@msou

Hi @callalloo, You do not need to “download” any file. Just click under Shared Files named Fosamax or Exercise (in blue color). It is a link itself. When click it, the file will open for you to read.

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I opened it with Drive on cellphone. I think you did a great job of tracking, charting and explaining your results! I've keep and chart usual stuff like basic blood work results. I was recently able to show a new PCP that my DEXA results are essentially unchanged from 2016 to 2022 by showing him both tests, stored handily on my cellphone. [At which point he stopped suggesting a prevent-osteoporosis drug. My argument was that I might have lost X amount of bone in earlier years but the rate of loss seems to have stopped.]

But your results are both persuasive and very encouraging as I'm hoping to, at the least, stave off osteoporosis drugs entirely with exercise and the Usual Suspect bone-health supporting supplements. Thank you for the time you put into this and sharing it. It really encourages me and, I'm sure, others

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One question. If I'm reading the first chart right, you discontinued calcium and vitamin D in 2012. If so, why?

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Very encouraging about the exercising helping your T scores. I've gone the exercise route (and diet and supplements), no meds yet, so far. Can you give an idea of the frequency and duration of your exercise routine? So far, since my osteoporosis Dx in May, I've been going with an exercise schedule goal something along the lines of:

- 30 min walk 5x/week
- 30+ min strength exercises 5x/week (static resistance (wall/floor), weights, and/or resistance bands)
- 30 min Balance long routine 2x/week
- 10 min Posture short routine 5x/week
- 1 hr senior yoga class 1x/week

Thanks in advance.

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@callalloo

I opened it with Drive on cellphone. I think you did a great job of tracking, charting and explaining your results! I've keep and chart usual stuff like basic blood work results. I was recently able to show a new PCP that my DEXA results are essentially unchanged from 2016 to 2022 by showing him both tests, stored handily on my cellphone. [At which point he stopped suggesting a prevent-osteoporosis drug. My argument was that I might have lost X amount of bone in earlier years but the rate of loss seems to have stopped.]

But your results are both persuasive and very encouraging as I'm hoping to, at the least, stave off osteoporosis drugs entirely with exercise and the Usual Suspect bone-health supporting supplements. Thank you for the time you put into this and sharing it. It really encourages me and, I'm sure, others

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Hi @callalloo, Thank you for the kind words! I do chart my other medical parameters too. A lot of information can be realized when view information from a chart. I used my blood pressure chart to convince my primary doctor that I can reduce my blood pressure drugs from 3 to 1. He agreed and at the end of the visit, he asked a copy of my chart. Ha!

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Hi, I am new to connect and was glad to find this on line. I've read all comments and here is mine. I've had osteopenia for many years, but developed osteoporosis of the spine and started on Alendronate 3 yrs ago. Spine T-score was -2.7 then at the time I started on Alendronate. Next Dexa scan 2 yrs ago showed spine T-score at -2.9. Relieved to read BMD of hips is osteopenia. Rheumatology presented 4 drugs to me, Tymlos, Evenity,(bone building) & Zometa and Prolia(bone preserving). She says she I should take Evenity. I've researched the meds until I am crazy. The side effects of these drugs! Dad's side of family really significant heart disease. I exercise with walking the most. I have started resistance exercise with bands and weights. I am very active, a vegan, no dairy or meat. Blood work recently was really good!! I am considering staying on Aldenronate another year & keep with my targeted excerise. My follow-up appoint is Thursday. Evenity or not? I still don't know.

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@catluvr999

Very encouraging about the exercising helping your T scores. I've gone the exercise route (and diet and supplements), no meds yet, so far. Can you give an idea of the frequency and duration of your exercise routine? So far, since my osteoporosis Dx in May, I've been going with an exercise schedule goal something along the lines of:

- 30 min walk 5x/week
- 30+ min strength exercises 5x/week (static resistance (wall/floor), weights, and/or resistance bands)
- 30 min Balance long routine 2x/week
- 10 min Posture short routine 5x/week
- 1 hr senior yoga class 1x/week

Thanks in advance.

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Hi @catluvr999, Looks like you never take meds. I have no data to tell that if never have meds to start with, would exercise works just as well. I’ll be happy to talk about the exercise I am taking. I’ll put it in a separate Discussion topic soon.

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@callalloo

One question. If I'm reading the first chart right, you discontinued calcium and vitamin D in 2012. If so, why?

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Hi @callalloo, Yes. For 3 reasons,
1. The Ca & D did not appear to help much in the 2 years when I dropped
Fosamax.
2. I read articles talking some horrible info about Ca, like the supplement
could be made from some stone, and Ca can be linked to blood vessel
hardening, heart problem & kidney stone etc.
3. Without Ca and D over so many years, it appears not affecting my bone’s
performance that much.

Everyone’s body is unique. I do not suggest anyone to skip supplement. Only I prefer to rely on diet to provide the necessary nutrition. I don’t believe in “eat this, not that” either. Too confusing. I just eat everything without bias.

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@catluvr999

Very encouraging about the exercising helping your T scores. I've gone the exercise route (and diet and supplements), no meds yet, so far. Can you give an idea of the frequency and duration of your exercise routine? So far, since my osteoporosis Dx in May, I've been going with an exercise schedule goal something along the lines of:

- 30 min walk 5x/week
- 30+ min strength exercises 5x/week (static resistance (wall/floor), weights, and/or resistance bands)
- 30 min Balance long routine 2x/week
- 10 min Posture short routine 5x/week
- 1 hr senior yoga class 1x/week

Thanks in advance.

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Hi @catluvr999, you might want to check out Dr. Loren Fishman's 12 Poses vs Osteoporosis and the work he's been doing at http://www.sciataca.org. You can also google 12 Poses algaecal and get video versions of the poses osteopenia, osteoporosis, and prevention (regular stances) versions of the poses.

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