Diabetes Diagnosis, In Shock

Posted by babette @babette, Mar 26, 2021

Some background: Once upon a time I was a healthy, active, 60 year old woman. I had low back pain, which I addressed by the occasional cortisone injection, and MS, in remission for years. My R knee began to be painful 2 years ago, and I had a total R knee replacement. The surgeon botched it, the device failed and I had to have another complete TKR on the same knee.

Next up was a long workup for ankylosing spondylitis, which I was diagnosed with one day, then diabetes the next day!

I'm a good cook but pain makes it hard for me to stand for periods of time. I think I know what I need to do, but when I ate high protein, low carb over the past couple of days I was **starving.** I am completely lost, I never thought I would become diabetic and here I am. I don't even now when to take my glucose readings. My dh is also a diabetic so I'm v. concerned for both of us.

Positive things I've done: I'm planning weight loss surgery which is probably the best thing I can do for all of my health problems; I've made 8 PT appointments for the AS; made an appointment for private yoga sessions, and I have a stationary bike.

I would love to hear about what have been your best resources for dealing with this head on?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Diabetes & Endocrine System Support Group.

For anyone wishing for more information relevant to diabetes and diet, you may wish to follow the Weight Management blog https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/weight-management-1/

Some have expressed interest and/or knowledge with low carb health fat (LCHF) eating. You may wish to join this group on Connect:
- LCHF Living & Intermittent Fasting https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/lchf-living-intermittent-fasting/

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@colleenyoung

For anyone wishing for more information relevant to diabetes and diet, you may wish to follow the Weight Management blog https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/weight-management-1/

Some have expressed interest and/or knowledge with low carb health fat (LCHF) eating. You may wish to join this group on Connect:
- LCHF Living & Intermittent Fasting https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/lchf-living-intermittent-fasting/

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@colleenyoung Thanks, Colleen. Also, I just received the Mayo Diet Book II that I need to ck out. I ordered it when I joined the Mayo Diet to lose weight....not sure I can go that route myself as I don't cook, but can learn as I go! I do well w/Medditerrarian and Low Carb/High Protein eating....and several small meals daily. If I do that, keeps down the desire to snack on stuff....and have to be better at what I have to snack. Good helpers here.....blessings, elizabeth

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@ess77

@colleenyoung Thanks, Colleen. Also, I just received the Mayo Diet Book II that I need to ck out. I ordered it when I joined the Mayo Diet to lose weight....not sure I can go that route myself as I don't cook, but can learn as I go! I do well w/Medditerrarian and Low Carb/High Protein eating....and several small meals daily. If I do that, keeps down the desire to snack on stuff....and have to be better at what I have to snack. Good helpers here.....blessings, elizabeth

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Good add, Elizabeth. The Mayo Clinic Diet book and/or program are great resources. Here's a good discussion that might be worth reigniting:
- Anyone know about Mayo Clinic Diet Experience https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/anyone-know-about-mayo-clinic-diet-experience/

I'd also like to point out this book from diabetes experts at Mayo Clinic - The Essential Diabetes Book https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/categories/diseases-and-conditions/mayo-clinic-the-essential-diabetes-book-second-edition.php

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@colleenyoung

Good add, Elizabeth. The Mayo Clinic Diet book and/or program are great resources. Here's a good discussion that might be worth reigniting:
- Anyone know about Mayo Clinic Diet Experience https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/anyone-know-about-mayo-clinic-diet-experience/

I'd also like to point out this book from diabetes experts at Mayo Clinic - The Essential Diabetes Book https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/categories/diseases-and-conditions/mayo-clinic-the-essential-diabetes-book-second-edition.php

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@colleenyoung
Good book!
My cousin has diabetes and I bought it for him and his caregivers use it and like it very much.
Jake

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@ess77

@colleenyoung Thanks, Colleen. Also, I just received the Mayo Diet Book II that I need to ck out. I ordered it when I joined the Mayo Diet to lose weight....not sure I can go that route myself as I don't cook, but can learn as I go! I do well w/Medditerrarian and Low Carb/High Protein eating....and several small meals daily. If I do that, keeps down the desire to snack on stuff....and have to be better at what I have to snack. Good helpers here.....blessings, elizabeth

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@ess77
Hey Lizzy,
I have a question, if you don’t cook why did you order a cookbook?
As much as I despise cooking if I can cook you can cook. Anyone can throw a salad together, granted its a pain. As you lose weight you become more and more motivated. I lost 90 pounds and I ate candy every day. Now if I can do it you can certainly do it and I didn’t need a cookbook although my doctor did send me to a nutritionist and the amount of food they want you to eat is ridiculous. I don’t think a person can even live on what they want you to eat. I know you need to reduce portions and exercise more @becsbuddy will take care of the exercise. I went to the gym too but didn’t overdo.
That deli junk isn’t healthy. For lunch I had 4oz of chicken (doctor says 3oz (I never did mind worth shucks) half a baked potato asparagus & carrots. I cook in the microwave just in case a seizure should strike. No candy today. talk about suffering!!
NOW, are you going to straighten up & fly right?
Think og the money you can save the deli junk is costly and gas. Although a happy car is a driven car.
Now when are you going to get with the program???
Take care,
Jake

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@jakedduck1

@ess77
Hey Lizzy,
I have a question, if you don’t cook why did you order a cookbook?
As much as I despise cooking if I can cook you can cook. Anyone can throw a salad together, granted its a pain. As you lose weight you become more and more motivated. I lost 90 pounds and I ate candy every day. Now if I can do it you can certainly do it and I didn’t need a cookbook although my doctor did send me to a nutritionist and the amount of food they want you to eat is ridiculous. I don’t think a person can even live on what they want you to eat. I know you need to reduce portions and exercise more @becsbuddy will take care of the exercise. I went to the gym too but didn’t overdo.
That deli junk isn’t healthy. For lunch I had 4oz of chicken (doctor says 3oz (I never did mind worth shucks) half a baked potato asparagus & carrots. I cook in the microwave just in case a seizure should strike. No candy today. talk about suffering!!
NOW, are you going to straighten up & fly right?
Think og the money you can save the deli junk is costly and gas. Although a happy car is a driven car.
Now when are you going to get with the program???
Take care,
Jake

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@jakedduck1, @colleenyoung , @howardm et al... Ok, Jake, my friend....Better sit down and get comfy....

I don't cook because I can't cook. I can't stand for any length of time. I can't lift pots or pans, the arthritic pain in my hands and wrists is excruciating when I do attempt to lift.....no pot is made that's light enough or comfy for my hands. Also, I can't use my thumbs, so no gripping. No cutting or chopping or other prep activities, not even tomatoes or lettuce......can buy pre-cut or pre-made salads, but hard to chew some of salad and have gerd and swallow issues, so lettuce/leafy get caught. No trouble using oven for warming, cooking and microwave of course.

The pre-made meals I get at Publix in Florida are excellent, Jake. No preservatives or additives. Fresh, like fresh chicken breast stuffed with asparagus and gouda cheese, or spinach and cheese, or other such delicious concoctions I cooked years ago. They have limited spices, the ones I choose, so don't upset Gerd/stomach; limited salt for a no sodium diet.....

I think these are a good way for me, as 1 meal, 2 breasts have protein, veggies, dairy and taste fantastic. ! meal w/2 breasts are 3-4 servings for me. Live alone. They also have fresh salmon!!! Delicious!

So, sorry, Jake. This is the only way I've found works for me. I have them delivered with my other groceries. I will begin to go to store soon, as I have the ability. Ordered groceries prior to covid due to weakness and pain. Oh, walking is challenging and painful. . Lumbar/cervical herniated discs, legs/feet pain, neuropathy, arthritis, trouble lifting legs, when tired lifting feet is tough and sluff & stumble, etc.

OK, my friend. I don't like discussing the ways I can't do things. I prefer to celebrate the ways I've figured out to get around the challenges!!! That's the only way I can survive this ridiculous, horrible life and turn it into something I can tolerate and come close to enjoying.....see my point?
Blessings to you ~ I loved meeting you officially on the Spotlight! You're a special person.....elizabeth

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@astaingegerdm

@babette - Welcome to Mayo Connect! I know you are in shock- I was there too. After 60 it seemed as if the warranty on my body ran out! I had also tried to live a healthy, active life. Genetics play a large role. I realized that I had inherited many of my father’s health problems, diabetes one of them.
After spending 10 years dealing with autoimmune and other issues I was well enough to deal with the diabetes. I knew I had to lose weight. My daughter had lost a lot of weight doing a low carb, high protein diet. I joined a program locally. It was very tough the first 2 weeks. I craved my carbs so bad! It got much easier and the pounds disappeared. I was never hungry. I ate a fairly similar diet as I did before minus all my beloved carbs! 45 lbs in a few months. My blood sugar was much lower and steady so I could go off my diabetes medicine and continue controlling it through my diet. You measure your fasting blood sugar- after you wake up. Keep a record.
There are many ways to eat to reach the same result- I was happy to like my diet since it did not vary much from my regular diet.
What does your doctor say?
My doctor told me that nowadays diabetes is considered a cardiovascular illness..that scared me.
The local hospitals usually have diabetes educators- check it out.
Moderate physical activity is important too.
Don’t wait! You can do it!

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“My doctor told me that nowadays diabetes is a cardiovascular disease illness.. that scared me” this comment hit home with me, my doctor, and the diabetes classes scared me so much I ended up with anxiety then depression. Now if doctors like to scare the crap out of a person why are they doctors this happened with me the classes helped with the diet part but scared me so bad about the complications part, that was nine years ago, and still scared, my anxiety has been through the roof lately with other life stressors that gave me trauma, I’m taking antidepressant that has awful side effects and don’t know what to switch to, and anti anxiety medication that I was told now that I shouldn’t be on this so long. I don’t know what to do. My doctor has not been a big help in medications and he’s retiring at the end of this month. And no doctor to replace him, because of the doctor shortage here where I live. This is stressing me out, rel badly.

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@tula17

“My doctor told me that nowadays diabetes is a cardiovascular disease illness.. that scared me” this comment hit home with me, my doctor, and the diabetes classes scared me so much I ended up with anxiety then depression. Now if doctors like to scare the crap out of a person why are they doctors this happened with me the classes helped with the diet part but scared me so bad about the complications part, that was nine years ago, and still scared, my anxiety has been through the roof lately with other life stressors that gave me trauma, I’m taking antidepressant that has awful side effects and don’t know what to switch to, and anti anxiety medication that I was told now that I shouldn’t be on this so long. I don’t know what to do. My doctor has not been a big help in medications and he’s retiring at the end of this month. And no doctor to replace him, because of the doctor shortage here where I live. This is stressing me out, rel badly.

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@tula17 - I understand your fear. It’s always on my mind.
It would help if you were able to talk to a therapist about your anxiety. It helps when you can just talk about it and get help managing your anxiety.
I was already seeing a therapist to help me deal with chronic illness when this information bomb hit.
It’s genetic with me, my autoimmune illness with chronic inflammation is also a factor.
I still get angry now and then when I think of it. However, I do the best I can.
I’m also lucky to have a good internist- he keeps me on a regular schedule of lab work to make sure that my cholesterol and blood sugar are fine. Since I also have a heart valve problem I have a cardiac echocardiogram annually.
I hope you can find a new good internist, maybe get a recommendation from your local hospital.
If you don’t have any signs of heart disease now you just need regular monitoring of your diabetes and cholesterol. The diabetes classes should help you plan to follow a healthy diet and physical activity.
Please find a therapist to talk to about other trauma you also experienced.
You deserve to have a good life!

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I would love it if folks could specify type 1 or type 2 diabetes. Every time the generic term "diabetes" is used in the context of diet and other lifestyle factors, it is being used to refer to type 2. The use of the generic term "diabetes" generally leaves out type 1 entirely. Type 1 is the most misunderstood disease on the planet. Specifying type 2 rather than using "diabetes" helps educate people!

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@windyshores

I would love it if folks could specify type 1 or type 2 diabetes. Every time the generic term "diabetes" is used in the context of diet and other lifestyle factors, it is being used to refer to type 2. The use of the generic term "diabetes" generally leaves out type 1 entirely. Type 1 is the most misunderstood disease on the planet. Specifying type 2 rather than using "diabetes" helps educate people!

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Type 1 is an autoimmune condition, most often diagnosed in childhood. Diet and lifestyle obviously are important there too, but it can’t prevent it.

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