Is this a COVID crash? Any suggestions on how to stop a crash?

Posted by liz58 @liz58, Feb 25, 2022

I learned about the covid crash in class. I am not sure I experienced one until this week, I have been getting headaches but this headache started Monday and it subsidies but sort of lingers. It that the crash? I have had about 5 of these headaches since my covid Nov 2020. I can't figure anything that pinpointed it as a trigger, I have migraine med, it helped but didn't take headache away. Any suggestions on how to stop the crash as I'm on day 5. If this is considered a crash.

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@bunzman

Thank you. When you say "pre-crash", are you saying that other different symptoms follow them? That is what are the symptoms that represent the "crash" like?

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Yes, when I actually crash, I have to lie down or I would fall down - can't think or see very well, big trouble breathing, cold everywhere (run cold anyway), dizzy, eyes so blurry can't see, etc. My husband has to remind me to breath deeply. It's scary. Pre-cash symptoms are not as severe.

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@welchllb

Yes, when I actually crash, I have to lie down or I would fall down - can't think or see very well, big trouble breathing, cold everywhere (run cold anyway), dizzy, eyes so blurry can't see, etc. My husband has to remind me to breath deeply. It's scary. Pre-cash symptoms are not as severe.

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Thank you. Was wondering if people had substantially different "pre-crash" symptoms than their (harsher) "crash" symptoms. Seems like some do and some don't; which also seems consistent with the variety of post covid symptoms in general.

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@bunzman

Does anyone experience symptoms before a "crash"? E.G., my friend's finger and feet get cold before experiencing other (more severe) symptoms like headache, tiredness chest pressure. So at the sign of the cold feet, etc. he takes Ibuprofen. Thankfully He is now seeing a long covid specialist...

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Does a “long haul specialist” really exist???
I have been to numerous doctors at Cleveland Clinic and all appear long hauler phobic since we don’t fit in with obsolete categories of symptoms and tests they have used to diagnose pre-Covid era. When tests come back within range, they pass you down the line...
The field is too new and if they are not paying attention to the current research, they haven’t got a clue. Sad but true.

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I have discovered this also at the Cleveland Clinic! I thought I was going where the experts are, but sadly, that’s not true. They are not up to date in research or care.

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My 'crashes' follow more cognitive or physical exertion than I should be doing but I don't know it until the days after the exertion. My headache varies in intensity-at it's worst, light/sound/smells are intolerable. My arms and legs feel like painful, heavy cement blocks that that require Herculean effort to move. I am lightheaded, nauseated, lack appetite. The incapacitating profound exhaustion makes me a lifeless glob of flesh. I am unable to summon the energy to get out of bed or off the couch. I pray I can fall asleep so I can stop feeling the pain. I slept 26 of 36 hours the last episode. Lots of water helps even though it means getting up to fill a glass, forcing myself to drink and then getting up again for the bathroom. Electrolyte replacement, Gatorade/NUUN/salt, helps as well. Excedrin Migraine is moderately helpful.
I was a marathon running, weight lifting, ER nurse before COVID in November 2020; now I keep an hourly log of what I am doing, identify if my activity is cognitive (daily planning, appointments, finances, grocery list, highway driving, insurance forms, support group, reading the news) or physical (walking, PT exercises, yoga, errands, laundry, washing & drying my hair, picking up the house, cooking). I tally up how much time I have used. I am done for the day when I have used up the 2hr limit for each. Sometimes that is noon, sometimes 4:00. It took ~4months to really pay attention to this before zeroing in on what my time limits are; a lot of trial and error, usually feeling good & thinking I can do everything, crash, repeat. Read up on "Post Exertional Malaise"-it fits me exactly.

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Is the inflammatory process what keeps you having a fever at bed time? Also having trouble sleeping. Don't have good sleep habits before COVID and now they are terrible. Only sleeping short time at night or not at all. Have had the crashes were exhaustion takes over and I sleep 3 hours during the day.

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@rinadbq

My 'crashes' follow more cognitive or physical exertion than I should be doing but I don't know it until the days after the exertion. My headache varies in intensity-at it's worst, light/sound/smells are intolerable. My arms and legs feel like painful, heavy cement blocks that that require Herculean effort to move. I am lightheaded, nauseated, lack appetite. The incapacitating profound exhaustion makes me a lifeless glob of flesh. I am unable to summon the energy to get out of bed or off the couch. I pray I can fall asleep so I can stop feeling the pain. I slept 26 of 36 hours the last episode. Lots of water helps even though it means getting up to fill a glass, forcing myself to drink and then getting up again for the bathroom. Electrolyte replacement, Gatorade/NUUN/salt, helps as well. Excedrin Migraine is moderately helpful.
I was a marathon running, weight lifting, ER nurse before COVID in November 2020; now I keep an hourly log of what I am doing, identify if my activity is cognitive (daily planning, appointments, finances, grocery list, highway driving, insurance forms, support group, reading the news) or physical (walking, PT exercises, yoga, errands, laundry, washing & drying my hair, picking up the house, cooking). I tally up how much time I have used. I am done for the day when I have used up the 2hr limit for each. Sometimes that is noon, sometimes 4:00. It took ~4months to really pay attention to this before zeroing in on what my time limits are; a lot of trial and error, usually feeling good & thinking I can do everything, crash, repeat. Read up on "Post Exertional Malaise"-it fits me exactly.

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I concur with your description. Very similar situation and Post Exertional Malaise fits pretty well. Drinking water helps so much!! OTC meds like Aleve, etc are only mildly effective. When I exert too much, I drink water like I've just run a marathon, only, I just took a shower. I also practice deep breathing throughout the day. 🙁

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@rinadbq

My 'crashes' follow more cognitive or physical exertion than I should be doing but I don't know it until the days after the exertion. My headache varies in intensity-at it's worst, light/sound/smells are intolerable. My arms and legs feel like painful, heavy cement blocks that that require Herculean effort to move. I am lightheaded, nauseated, lack appetite. The incapacitating profound exhaustion makes me a lifeless glob of flesh. I am unable to summon the energy to get out of bed or off the couch. I pray I can fall asleep so I can stop feeling the pain. I slept 26 of 36 hours the last episode. Lots of water helps even though it means getting up to fill a glass, forcing myself to drink and then getting up again for the bathroom. Electrolyte replacement, Gatorade/NUUN/salt, helps as well. Excedrin Migraine is moderately helpful.
I was a marathon running, weight lifting, ER nurse before COVID in November 2020; now I keep an hourly log of what I am doing, identify if my activity is cognitive (daily planning, appointments, finances, grocery list, highway driving, insurance forms, support group, reading the news) or physical (walking, PT exercises, yoga, errands, laundry, washing & drying my hair, picking up the house, cooking). I tally up how much time I have used. I am done for the day when I have used up the 2hr limit for each. Sometimes that is noon, sometimes 4:00. It took ~4months to really pay attention to this before zeroing in on what my time limits are; a lot of trial and error, usually feeling good & thinking I can do everything, crash, repeat. Read up on "Post Exertional Malaise"-it fits me exactly.

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Thank you for the description of cognitive vs. physical exertion. I will definitely try to log this myself. It plays into the 'spoons theory' which is described on Google. I was thinking of this concept as I was definitely pushing my limits today - I had to get projects turned in before spring break. I was cooking dinner at the stove and all of a sudden had a near syncope experience and had to sit on the floor. Emotionally stressful events also take me out for 24 hours. I appreciate you posting as I was also a very active person before all of this happened. This is quite the humbling experience.

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@aae

Thank you for the description of cognitive vs. physical exertion. I will definitely try to log this myself. It plays into the 'spoons theory' which is described on Google. I was thinking of this concept as I was definitely pushing my limits today - I had to get projects turned in before spring break. I was cooking dinner at the stove and all of a sudden had a near syncope experience and had to sit on the floor. Emotionally stressful events also take me out for 24 hours. I appreciate you posting as I was also a very active person before all of this happened. This is quite the humbling experience.

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As a nurse, I am also interested in trends. I made a spreadsheet to look at those symptoms on a monthly basis to see patterns & relationships between activity and symptoms. Private Message me if you are interested in what it looks like otherwise, this is what I write down...

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Symptom List (Symptom-List.pdf)

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