(MAC/MAI) Mycobacterium Avium Complex Pulmonary Disease: Join us

Posted by Katherine, Alumni Mentor @katemn, Nov 21, 2011

I am new to Mayo online .. I was hoping to find others with .. MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and/or BRONCHIECTASIS. I found only 1 thread on mycobacterium accidently under the catagory "Lungs". I'm hoping by starting a subject matter directly related to MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) I may find others out there!

I was diagnosed by a sputum culture August 2007 (but the culture result was accidentally misfiled until 2008!) with MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and BRONCHIECTASIS. I am now on 5 antibiotics. Working with Dr. Timothy Aksamit at Rochester Mayo Clinic .. he is a saint to have put up with me this long! I was terrified of the treatment . started the first antibiotic September 3, 2011 ... am now on all 5 antibiotics for 18 mos to 2 years. Am delighted at the very bearable side effects!

I wrote on the 1 thread I found: If you google NON-TUBERCULOUS MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) you will learn a LOT about the disease. But PLEASE do NOT get scared about all the things you read .. that is what I did and nearly refused to do the treatment until after a 2nd Micomacterium was discovered! Educate yourself for "due diligence" .. but take it all with a grain of salt .. you are NOT necessarily going to have all the terrible side effects of the antibiotics! Good luck to you!

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January 2017 Update

One of our great Connect Members .. @Paula_MAC2007  .. had a wonderfully helpful idea that I wanted to share! Her idea .. as you read through the pages to gather information on our shared disease of MAC you can develop a personal "file cabinet" for future reference without the necessity of reading all the pages again!

If you have the "MS Word" program on your computer:
- Document Title Example:  Mayo Clinic Connect MAI/MAC Information
- Then develop different categories that make sense to you such as:  Heath Aids .. Videos .. Healthy Living .. Positive Thinking .. Baseline Testing and Regular Testing .. Antibiotics ..
Tips for
- As you read the pages .. copy/paste/save things of interest into that MS Word document under your preferred categories for future reference.

Then as you want to refer back to something in the future .. YEAH!  You have now created your own personal "file cabinet" on MAC/MAI!  Go to it!

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

@stsagris

Hello, my 73 year old step-mother was recently diagnosed with MAC infection about 1 month ago and she was started on antibiotic regimen (rifampin, ethambutol, and azithromycin). She has since developed extreme debilitating anxiety where she cannot function during the day. Her personality has also changed drastically. She cries constantly, and is terrified of things that would not have phased her in the past. We are looking for answers but not coming with anything. Has anyone experienced anything like this?

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I am 71 years old. I was 67 when I began taking those same three antibiotics 3 times a week. After no improvement - I was increased to the same three antibiotics 7 days/week. I continued this regimen for about 4 years.
I began to think I was showing severe signs of dementia after having difficulty finding local area destinations I had known for 30 years. I even had trouble finding my way around Mayo after doing the same routine appointments three or four times a year for 4 years! In addition to confusion and temporary memory loss while on the antibiotics, I also had terrible mood swings and paranoia.
I shared all of this with my Mayo pulmonologist. Since my bacteria count was so low by 2018, it was believed I needed a break; I was put on a “med holiday” for one year. Yay!
During my year off the antibiotics, I realized I was able to find my way around town with no issues, and my “feeling lost” and “in a fog” while at Mayo was also gone. The mood swings, paranoia, and confusion were totally gone. I felt so much better mentally.
But here I am again a little over a year later, my lung health is not good again - and, I am going to find out tomorrow what the new plan is. I do know that my mental health will also be considered when choosing antibiotics. I am so glad and very thankful I have a pulmonologist I can trust. Don’t be afraid to ask questions and to share how your lung health treatment might be effecting your general health. Hoping thus helps a little. And - please tell stepmom’s pulmonologist what she is experiencing. Be Blessed.

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Your stepmother is not alone experiencing mental and emotional shifts on these drugs. Mental fog,anxiety getting upset and very sad were a way of life for me the first 6 months.....I hated the way I felt and knew it was the drugs but that was little solace. Eventually my body got used to these chemicals and I regained my composure, peace, and normal personality...I don’t think you can overestimate the havoc these drugs have on us....they are administered to attack the MAC but a side affect is damage to the parts of our brains which control our wellbeing. Arikayce is a new drug which may help as it does not enter the blood stream but goes straight to the lungs....you might look into to that for your step mother. Good luck. She is very lucky to have such a concerned stepdaughter.

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@stsagris

Hello, my 73 year old step-mother was recently diagnosed with MAC infection about 1 month ago and she was started on antibiotic regimen (rifampin, ethambutol, and azithromycin). She has since developed extreme debilitating anxiety where she cannot function during the day. Her personality has also changed drastically. She cries constantly, and is terrified of things that would not have phased her in the past. We are looking for answers but not coming with anything. Has anyone experienced anything like this?

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I had similar effects but probably not as severe as your step-mother. Ultimately my body acclimated (don't remember how long but maybe 3 months or so). I would jump if the phone rang! Just remember that your Mom needs to be checked regularly for visual, hearing side effects. Not a bad idea to make sure that her thyroid is not out of whack and causing some of the nervousness. Also, not a bad idea to see a therapist so that your Mom would be able to confront and change some of the unreasonable beliefs that she has about this condition. She is indeed fortunate to have such a caring daughter-in-law. Wishing her the best.

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@lampstone

I am 71 years old. I was 67 when I began taking those same three antibiotics 3 times a week. After no improvement - I was increased to the same three antibiotics 7 days/week. I continued this regimen for about 4 years.
I began to think I was showing severe signs of dementia after having difficulty finding local area destinations I had known for 30 years. I even had trouble finding my way around Mayo after doing the same routine appointments three or four times a year for 4 years! In addition to confusion and temporary memory loss while on the antibiotics, I also had terrible mood swings and paranoia.
I shared all of this with my Mayo pulmonologist. Since my bacteria count was so low by 2018, it was believed I needed a break; I was put on a “med holiday” for one year. Yay!
During my year off the antibiotics, I realized I was able to find my way around town with no issues, and my “feeling lost” and “in a fog” while at Mayo was also gone. The mood swings, paranoia, and confusion were totally gone. I felt so much better mentally.
But here I am again a little over a year later, my lung health is not good again - and, I am going to find out tomorrow what the new plan is. I do know that my mental health will also be considered when choosing antibiotics. I am so glad and very thankful I have a pulmonologist I can trust. Don’t be afraid to ask questions and to share how your lung health treatment might be effecting your general health. Hoping thus helps a little. And - please tell stepmom’s pulmonologist what she is experiencing. Be Blessed.

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@lampstone Hi there. I am sorry your mac is back, but not surprised. My Mayo doc has me on maintenance (preventative) meds although I have tested negative since 2014. It is a light dose of 10 day a month antibiotics. Sometimes a 28 day of tobramycin to keep the pseudomonas away. Were you also diagnosed with bronchiectasis?

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@stsagris

Hello, my 73 year old step-mother was recently diagnosed with MAC infection about 1 month ago and she was started on antibiotic regimen (rifampin, ethambutol, and azithromycin). She has since developed extreme debilitating anxiety where she cannot function during the day. Her personality has also changed drastically. She cries constantly, and is terrified of things that would not have phased her in the past. We are looking for answers but not coming with anything. Has anyone experienced anything like this?

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@stsagris, Oh that poor woman!
Have you asked her dr about putting her on a mild sedative or anti- anxiety med? At least long enough to retrain her brain not to freak out or until she acclimates to the meds.

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@windwalker

@lampstone Hi there. I am sorry your mac is back, but not surprised. My Mayo doc has me on maintenance (preventative) meds although I have tested negative since 2014. It is a light dose of 10 day a month antibiotics. Sometimes a 28 day of tobramycin to keep the pseudomonas away. Were you also diagnosed with bronchiectasis?

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Yes. Since the beginning in 2014.
I saw the radiologist report of my chest CT last week. First time I have had “tree in bud” on an X-ray.

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@lampstone

Yes. Since the beginning in 2014.
I saw the radiologist report of my chest CT last week. First time I have had “tree in bud” on an X-ray.

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@lampstone Pam, as my dr explained to me....when you have bronchiectasis, you are never out of the woods from getting mac and pseudomonas. That is because the lungs are structurally damaged and will always be susceptible to trapping these germs. My dr is treating the bronchiectasis, not infections. I had the tree in bud thing going on also.

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@kathyhg

Oops. Sorry for another post but I thought you meant Western University (hospital) rather than Toronto Western Hospital.

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@kathyhg Hi Kathy. Just want to wish you luck with your dr appointment tomorrow. Hugs!

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@windwalker

@kathyhg Hi Kathy. Just want to wish you luck with your dr appointment tomorrow. Hugs!

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Thanks! I have my list ready.

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@windwalker

@stsagris, Oh that poor woman!
Have you asked her dr about putting her on a mild sedative or anti- anxiety med? At least long enough to retrain her brain not to freak out or until she acclimates to the meds.

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Yes we have tried several and none of them are working. Just looking to see if this is a possible explanation. Thanks for your reply!

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